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11/29/2011 11:35 PM
seem
 
Posts: 211
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Hi All!

Thank you for this group!

I have read a lot of discussions and they have greatly informed me and supported me during my own crisis!

My husband of 8 and a half years, suddenly without warning and explanation, walked out on me and our two small children right upon moving into a new apartment.

He got himself a new apartment, and a new girlfriend all very very fast. He left specifically to date and have sex. Even though he didn't say it to me, it was all over his actions and his conduct. He was hypersexual for the first time in his life that I have seen.

Strange thing is that our relationship was very asexual. He had a very very low libido. And I always wanted to have sex and he never did! It was very hard to deal with. So, as you can see, I am very surprised to even think of my nerdy little CPA husband going around dating, finding, and procuring a girlfriend in a matter of weeks.

Now they have been together for nearly three months.

My three year old and five year old and I were basically dumped in a new city, and upon moving here, I noticed my husband was acting very very strange upon moving out of our old house. There was a lot of stress from the move, the children, one autistic child, was very very hard to deal with during the move, and our movers were very bad as well (moving van broke down, extra charges, etc)., my mom who annoys my husband came to help and that made matters worse.

I noticed my husband, who is usually very patient with the kids, pulling at them, irritated by them, rolling his tongue in complete aggravation over them, clonking them into their car seats, etc. Not normal behavior for him.

When we went to go sign the lease for our new apartment, the leasing office made a lot of mistakes, yet, it was the first time I had seen my husband act so crazy. He was argumentative, almost didn't sign the lease, had himself up in the community room of the leasing office and we had to bring him the paper work to sign up there in the clubhouse because he refused to come back down to the office he was so mad. He told me that he wanted to just not even move there. He was being unreasonable, hard to deal with and irritable as hell.

Upon moving in, just a few days later, he was unable to help with the apartment, unpacking, anything, the kids, it was all on me. He would leave for many hours, and not come home. Then after a few days he sat me down one edgy midnight, and said "I am moving out, I have my own room for rent" and then that was that. He looked exilerated, not concerned about us. He looked like he was on cloud-nine. He seemed a little "fake" as if he was acting. His eyes were vacant.

Whatever I said didn't matter.

His mind was set. And when I talked to him about it to find out why his reasons were vague "no spark" "it was from the beginning, there were issues from the onset" and then he would say "I know I am going to see the kids even more than I do now (his plan he said was seeing them two nights for dinner and one weekend day, saturday). Of course, his plan never came to full fruition and he seems them 5 hours per week.

He moved out, paid $300 for sheets at Bed Bath and Beyond for his room for rent, not sure what else he did, but he went on okaycupid.com, dated several women off the bat, met one, then I saw the hundreds of text messages per day to her number. At one point 300 a day even!

They became a couple two months into the whole thing. His facebook showed him wining and dining her in rare wine restaurants in Napa Valley, a kind father now was spending his time taking a woman to a corn maze and pumpkin patch, but failed to get his own kids pumpkins for Halloween or take them to something fun like a pumpkin patch for kids.

A mutual friend shared that he texted her asking how he could convert to Catholicism if he divorces me, because he wants to marry his girlfriend, but needs to be a Catholic.

He sends me numerous emails about divorce, financial planning in the interim, dividing percentages and such. THe emails are lengthy and they are accurate most the time. I am wondering can they be so clear during a manic episode? I know he is able to still hold his job as a CPA and do all that computing at work. His emails to me are always concise, business like and very dry and they always send me into a panic.. I hate that that is what happens to me, but it does because I am so taken aback by all of this even still.

He is not sleeping much. Friend told me he confided in her that he isn't sleeping that he texted her "sleeping is overrated." He never drank coffee before, but he is drinking tons of coffee now and drinking alcohol again in bars with his new girlfriend.

When he recently came to see the kids he seemed easily distracted and paranoid about something cooking in my kitchen, which was strange behavior for him.

His girlfriend loves the Oakland "As" so he sports a visor for the team, although he never liked them before when he visits us. It is so annoying to see him wearing the visor when he is changing the car seats into his car to take the kids! One Saturday he bought the children two matching visors and then I had three heads staring back at me reminding me of the grief this manic episode has caused me and my family.

This week I emailed him asking him to go to a psychiatrist with me to discuss if we are mentally ready to go through with our divorce mediation. It was my only way of getting him to a pdoc. He agreed. So tomorrow I will make an appointment.

Strange how much of his bp I didn't see till now: like when he blew my dad's 10,000 on day trading 4 years ago, when he used our credit cards through the roof, he always wanted to move and move away from where we were. We lived in 12 homes in almost 9 years time!

How could I miss it?

I would love to hear back from you all. Your thoughts on his bp signs, your advice and support mean a lot!

Thanks!

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11/30/2011 03:13 AM  Top
lollipop
lollipop  
Posts: 4128
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Hi Seem, welcome to our group! After reading your above post, I have only a few things to say.

1) You are doing the right thing in trying to get him into see a pdoc. I hope he expresses himself honestly while there, so the pdoc can see if there is any problem with his mental stability.

2) Don't beat yourself up because you "missed it" and didn't know he was bipolar. I did the same thing and I think I had alot of "hints" too. My husband's mama was bipolar and had schizophrenia, as well. She was diagnosed and we had to help with her alot throughout the years. I had been married 27 1/2 years when my husband's manic behavior interrupted our life and nearly destroyed our marriage. I still didn't believe it was bipolar disorder, initially. The mania was so bad, my hubby has never been quite the same, although when he came back down from the mania, he has been VERY loving and kind, although mentally less stable or able to level off totally. He is very committed to working his program with his pdoc. He is committed to taking his meds.

3) After you layed out all the odd behavior he has exhibited "suddenly", it does look like he has something going on. Moving you to a new town, bursts of rage/uncontrollable anger (about apt), isolating himself, selfish behavior by moving out and suddenly not seeing the children much, getting the girlfriend and thinking he doesn't want his life he built with you for 8 1/2 years. The going from not wanting to have sex to OVERDRIVE in the sex department is an indicator too. And all the other stuff...I think you are onto something, seem. I just don't know if you will be able to get him to realize it quickly enough before he ruins everything between you both.

4) I suggest you keep on trying to learn more about this disorder, familiarizing yourself with the symptoms, actions, etc. You may not be able to help him, but you can help yourself and your children throughout the years by educating yourself to these things. According to my husband's psychiatrist (pdoc), Bipolar disorder is thought to be a chemical imbalance in the brain that affects the parts of the brain that govern pleasure, etc.; this explains the risky behavior he seems to be exhibiting.

One of the best sources for info are the "stickies" we have posted at the top of our forum list. They have little "tack" looking things. If you click on them you can read the info and hopefully there will be some info you can use.

5) I suggest you don't tell him "everything" you know or are thinking about his behavior right now. Many times, our loved ones with bipolar disorder (who are manic) will pull away from the ones who love them the most and are trying to constrain them. It is so sad because alot of pain could be circumvented if only they would have listened to us. Remember, though....what goes up, must come down. If he is truly manic right now, he will eventually come down and probably crash into a depression. Maybe during this time he will be more willing to listen to you and seek help.

Please feel free to keep posting or vent about the things that are going on in your life right now. Take care friend! We are here for you!

Post edited by: lollipop, at: 11/30/2011 03:18 AM

YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE IT!!!! IF I DID...ANYONE CAN.

Forgiving does not erase the bitter past. A healed memory is not a deleted memory. Instead, forgiving what we cannot forget creates a new way to remember. We change the memory of our past into a hope for our future.” Lewis B. Smedes

I am not a doctor, my advice is purely my opinion.

11/30/2011 04:04 AM  Top
WornOut2
WornOut2  
Posts: 1405
Senior Member

Welcome to the group! Lolli, as always, has offered some excellent advice. The only thing I have to add? Don't beat yourself up for not recognizing the BP. I've been married to my husband 30 years and have been a nurse the entire time. He was diagnosed four years ago. I didn't see it either.

Sometimes things are much clearer when you are able to take a step back.

Keep reading and keep posting. Good luck at the pdoc's office. Hopefully that will be a major turning point for you both. Unfortunately, until your husband is "on board" there isn't a whole lot you can do except educate yourself and keep things as together as possible for your kids.


11/30/2011 04:50 AM  Top
justhurt
justhurt  
Posts: 409
Member

Hello,

Welcome and I am sorry you are going through what you are going through. It can be very difficult to watch our spouses behave erratically. I hope for his, and your sake, that the pdoc is able to come to a diagnosis quickly.

I would suggest writing down all the details of where you see behavior that is out of alignment with your husband's normal behavior. You have a good start in your message here. Break it out into a bullet point list for the pdoc. Hand this list to your doctor as soon as you walk in.

Please PLEASE do not beat yourself up over not recognizing this previously. My wife and I have been married 9 years and together for 12. Throughout our relationship her symptoms would come and go but we had no idea it was something as destructive as BP until this last summer when it took an ugly turn. It is a very deceptive disorder.

Also remember, as my therapist reminds me: YOU ARE NOT A PSYCHOLOGIST. How could you possibly know? So please, don't beat yourself up.

You are a strong woman. Very caring and wanting something to heal your sick husband. Your coming here and doing the research shows how kind and loving you truly are.

Good luck, keep posting, we are here.

-just_hurt.

- The only way out is through.

I am not qualified to give out professional advice, please see a doctor or counselor if you need professional help.

Previous discussions I participated in:
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Frustrated that he cares

11/30/2011 01:49 PM  Top
hopefulcb
hopefulcb  
Posts: 3317
Group Leader

Welcome to the group!

Keep in mind that there are many events that induce mania, like, moving, job change, job loss, illnesses, births, marriages, engagements, deaths, financial stress, and there are many more. Financial stress is what through my husband into a manic episode.

I didn't notice many of manic and depressive behaviors either, so don't feel bad. The more you become educated on this disorder the better for all concerned.

I am so glad he agreed to go see a pdoc, I would do that asap and hopefully he will see what he is doing to you and your family.

Again, WELCOME!

It isn't my husband's fault he has an illness. It is his responsibility on how he treats it so he doesn't hurt others or himself in the midst of it.

My opinion, is just that, I am here to share my experience, strength and hope to those whose lives have been affected by this disorder :)

"When you feel like giving up, remember why you held on for so long in the first place."
~ Unknown

11/30/2011 01:49 PM  Top
kalissalea
kalissalea  
Posts: 618
Member

I knew my husband for ten years before it blew up on us. I was shocked...had no idea what bipolar was even. Now that I look back, I see things that I didn't before. Until he had a major episode though I never once thought he was sick...just a real jerk sometimes, and I didn't understand why. One day he took a flying leap off the deep end, and my education began. It's like I see the world through a new set of eyes now. Hang in there, you are not alone!

11/30/2011 03:16 PM  Top
lollipop
lollipop  
Posts: 4128
Group Leader

Amen sista Kalissa, on the thinking he was a jerk before bipolar diagnosis....same here. Twenty-seven and a half years of occasional jerkiness and lousy decision-making, before his bipolar mania blew up on him, me, our family, his friends, everywhere. Total interruption. Total surprise. Smile
YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE IT!!!! IF I DID...ANYONE CAN.

Forgiving does not erase the bitter past. A healed memory is not a deleted memory. Instead, forgiving what we cannot forget creates a new way to remember. We change the memory of our past into a hope for our future.” Lewis B. Smedes

I am not a doctor, my advice is purely my opinion.

11/30/2011 03:18 PM  Top
lollipop
lollipop  
Posts: 4128
Group Leader

Oh, and I forgot to mention in my above post....he ended up being the most surprised. He can't remember half of his full-blown mania and he's messed up emotionally and mentally over the parts he does remember.
YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE IT!!!! IF I DID...ANYONE CAN.

Forgiving does not erase the bitter past. A healed memory is not a deleted memory. Instead, forgiving what we cannot forget creates a new way to remember. We change the memory of our past into a hope for our future.” Lewis B. Smedes

I am not a doctor, my advice is purely my opinion.

11/30/2011 03:19 PM  Top
seem
 
Posts: 211
Member

Thanks to everyone for all these great comments. Tomorrow morning I have a session with a pdoc on my own. I will tell him the behaviors and thanks for the tip on bringing a list with me justhurt. I feel like I landed in a nice comforting and supportive spot. Thanks! I really needed it!

I will update all of you tomorrow.

Lots of Love,

Seem


11/30/2011 06:02 PM  Top
chuckels82
Posts: 332
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