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05/06/2008 15:51
heartbrokenforhim
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I am in the best relationship! Were perfect for one another. well up until I found out about the secret...

have been with my boyfriend for nearly a year and a half. He is 22 and I am 23 years old.

I sat with his sister who is now 31 years old and were talking about her depression and therapy. I told her about a girl I knew who was raped by her older brother can make it through depression and live a normal life than anyone can. Then out of the blue ... she said... her oldest brother had sex with her when he was 16 and she was 11 or 12. They had sex several times she said. I told her it wasnt her fault. Hugged her and then she and I went our two ways to bed.

I was emotionally shaken and my boyfriend saw this. He was repeatedly asked me what she told me. Then I said well what do you think it is about?

I asked this because I didnt want to betray her trust and change dynamics in the family.

His response was "That She used to touch me when I was younger?"....

I am a college psychology major and I am going CRAZY. We obviously cried together but after that night I cant stop trying to HELP or push him towards help. I want him to see a therapist. He has to wait for health insurance in a month to make an important.

I am curious to know what advice anyone has for ME. I have been supportive and understanding but it eats at me... it honestly makes me disgusted when I see her. It kills me seeing him being nice to her. At the last holiday I saw her hug the oldest brother and I felt my stomach turn.

Let me mention that they are a Catholic "sweep it under the rug" "hush hush" type of family, so parents will not be involved.

Should I be concerned about the future? How will I know something wont trigger any of them with children?

ehhh

I have done research and read other answers.... I am well educated in this area. But this is outside of my expertise.

I am trying to fake nice to her but I know it is not sincere.

now all that was about two months ago.

But there's more...

we were having a deep conversation yesterday about how his family makes him feel like an outsider, he told me he was addicted to online porn. He said he never knew the two things were correlated until the whole secret reopened memories. He has been on a support forum and has stayed away from porn since that day he found out about his siblings and told me about him....

[b]please PLEASE I need your advice/support/comments/////// anything I feel so alone. I want to be supportive in his healing but I WANT TO PUNCH HIM. He has seen me cry and in my opinon is sincerely trying to move forward but I hurt. He can apologize but I still feel betrayed. I know he is going through something BIG and life changing and I truely want to be by his side. That is what I told him, I no longer will push you towards healing but stand next to you because this journey isnt mine.

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05/06/2008 16:16
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Heart, I am 58 and have; bipolar disorder, post traumatic stress disorder, OCD, and a whole lotta hate. I was physically and sexually abused by my parents from when I can remember until I was 18. I will tell you right now to stay out of it unless he asks you for something specific. You will never know the depth of feelings involved with a sexual abuse victim until you've been there as a child. We don't want your pity! We don't want your sympathy.... and you cant' have empathy for our inner struggle. It is something we can never explain. We feel shame, guilt, pain, confusion, and hate. We certainly don't want to talk about it unless it is our idea to do that. We have no control over our past, but we certainly do our present. Some can leave it in the past and be fine. But others, live with it daily amd will always be bitter about our lost childhood. I have no sympathy for your feelings of betrayal. I think you are hurt because you now know he has kept a secret from you and you wonder how many others he has. You know that you also have memories of things that you have done and you haven't shared ALL of them with him. Stop intruding or trying to intrude on this man's personal self. All you can do is listen when he talks about it and not ask questions. You are not a therapist yet, and if you were you wouldn't be involved with your patient. Don't try to analyze this young man. Just love him.

Gloria

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05/06/2008 16:43
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Thanks for your response Morning,

I am confused because I feel split... one side is the solid rock girlfriend who wants to be there to support him and another side that is full of disgust, betrayal, and anger due to the porn secret. (which he said he knows is related due to the power high he gets)

I do Love him. I do feel sad for him because I love him. Should I not show this?

If not, how can one watch thier partner suffer without feeling sad. Maybe that is a feeling that you may not understand yourself, loving a survivor who is coming to terms??? It is always heartbreaking seeing a loved one fall, anyones first instinct is to help. (I understand that is not my place though.)

He is telling me that he wants me to stand next to him. Which I plan to do.

Any thoughts about his sister? I feel so ackward around her....



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05/06/2008 17:00
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NOW...I feel for you! You sounded more like a thrill seeker the first post. I know you don't understand that, but that's what I feel when anyone asks me about it. When he is down try to break the mood with something up. When he cries, hug him. You know enough now. Keep the sorrow in your heart and don't be overt with it.

As far as the sister goes......she did nothing that she wasn't taught. As for the older brother....he did nothing that he wasn't taught. These people remember all too well what happened. Sounds like they have decided the route of forgetting it ever happened. Let them have their lie until they are ready to face their truth. You are in a no win situation here. So be happy you have found love. Incest in the family is a crime to nature. We don't want to dwell on it but at times we can't help but be totally consumed by it.

Gloria








"We Know We Are Out Of Step When"

We cannot walk a straight line.
We've stepped on our brother's foot.
We forget to be thankful.
We feel alone.
We think our dance is the only dance there is.


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05/06/2008 18:18
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The only thing you really can do is be supportive as he chooses to tell you and do not be judgemental in any way. We pick up on that and read shame into normal reactions by others. Don't push. I agree with Gloria this is learned, the sister learned it from the brother. How old was she when she did this? 11 or 12 after it happened to her or old enough to know better. Lots of time we repress the memories to cope, something will happen to bring it up. Now that it has happened he needs to choose to deal with it on his own terms. If he sees the porn addiction as related he needs to choose to do something about it other than just don't look at it. I will come out in some other way.

As for having children, it depends on him. Some of us want so much better for our children that we take it on as a cause to be a better parent. Some have other addiction or mental issues and abuse their own. He needs to decide what camp he is in.

It is nice that you want to help, just remember you can only support a person as they want it. Sometimes living with a sexual abuse survivor is hard, and as Gloria said we don't want pity. He can write into a support group if he wants, though it is rare for men to do so. For them it is more of a taboo than it is for women. Learning about it may help you with some insight.

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05/07/2008 13:51
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Hi heart -

As a partner of a sexual abuse survivor, I can sympathize with a lot of what you wrote. Loving a survivor who is coming to terms with abuse, or actively going through the recovery process can really be difficult. Please, please don't forget to take care of yourself - it helped me a lot to get a relationship with a good counselor of my own.

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10/18/2008 08:01
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Hello friends, I want to UPDATE everyone on my relationship!

We have had a few fights but overall things are well. After a strange night *sexually* he woke up and he said "I think I might see someone".

He has been to a therapist 3 times and I havent asked questions but he seems to be happy. He did Thank me for sticking by him with support and concern. He also said it feels GOOD actually getting it off his chest! I think our sex lives have slowed down but I am guessing it will increase after his 10th and last session.

Hope all is well, We are. Have a good day!

P.S. This interview OUTRAGED ME: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v77WekmM8F8

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10/18/2008 10:08
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Hello heatbrokenforhim welcome. I think something must have happend to you boyfriend sometime in his past. And he is trying to open up to you. But he just can't find the right words to say. Sometime people avoid what is wrong by say thing are ok and good. When they are not. Thats what happend with me in my past. to learn more go to my profile. And read my story. Sit down with him and ask him what is wrong. The sooner its out the better you two will be.

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10/18/2008 15:56
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I'm glad he was able to see a counselor and is working on it. Don't be surprised that 10 weeks isn't going to "cure" him. It comes back periodically. He needs to know you'll be supportive and that he can tell you. I think it's great you stood by him. Thanks for the update, we like to hear good things.

Yes, the interview with Sarah Palin is shocking. I think they are sinking their boat by publicizing their personal opinion on abortion.

Lori

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10/18/2008 18:27
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I am very proud of your for supporting your boyfriend. What he has been through is very difficult and the healing process can take a very long time. I am so glad you are being patient with him. Your sex life my take a little longer to get back to normal but just give him some time ok. Thanks for sharing this with us..hopefully it will give some of us hope that people are willing to stick by you.

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