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03/06/2008 08:48
Lilibit58
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WOW...YOU ARE GOOD. I never got so much out of it. A lot of what you said seems plausible to me. There were many other incidents that led up to this too, but the bad check one is the thing that happened that made me start thinking of him differently. The only thing that doesn't feel right is children as assets. Yes, one of the main reasons I broke up with him did center on morality and values. His were just to different from mine, I just couldn't raise my children that way, and he had accepted it as normal. Thank you! You really are good at this and such an asset to the group
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03/06/2008 12:43
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Thank you kindly, Ms. Gloria!

Thank you kindly, too, Ms. Lilibit! I'm very, very happy for you..and a bit pleased that so many ideas were accurate. As far as the "assets" go..lol...(used the word for lack of a better word)...I couldn't really come up with a fitting word for what kind of monetary value the human mind would put on a child in a dream other than "priceless".

Well, since the rest of your dream seemed to have a recurring theme of "money, responsibility, ethics", I tried to choose my words to keep with the theme...lol. Even though the use of the word "asset" seemed a bit 'off' to me..lol.

Thank you for posting your dream, Ms. Lilibit, and for giving me the opportunity to toss some ideas on the table for translating it. I've always been utterly fascinated by dreams and translating them. So this was a beautiful gift to me. (I will remember to find a "more fitting" word should anything like this ever arise again with a future dream).

Bless you,

Ms. Jessie

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03/06/2008 23:11
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Dream interpretation has always interested me as well, but it,s kinda hard to interpret something that you don't remember. I have even tried having someone do dreamscaping. In case your not fimuliar with the concept,it's where someone tries to inter your dream and try to help figure the dream out. I might add that this is only done by someone who is fairly well connected to you. the person who did it with me was someone that literly spoke partial sentences with me. he told me that the dream was pertaining to a child being raped, however to this day I have never remembered anything about it. When I woke up from that dream and seen him next to me, I flipped out. My therapist believes that not remembering them has to do with the fact that when my neighbor was raping me, I started having dreams about the abuse with my uncle. To say that he triggered the memories of the sexual assults with my uncle and I for some reason decided that in order to protect myself I just decided tha I would never dream again. How to undo this though, we have no clue. any thouhgts or ideas would be welcome.

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03/07/2008 00:39
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Hey bunny!

I'm a bit confused by your post..lol..so I have some questions for ya'.

I'm familiar with 'dreamscaping' and I've never cared for it. Call me paranoid..lol..but the majority of the human race has an objective (could be any number of things) and few will actually act out of "love". So, I just don't think it's a "good" idea to be letting someone even attempt to run willy nilly in my dreams...lol.

Ok, I guess I would like more details on your story here, I'm confused because I don't know who (not name, but relation to you..ie..friend/sibling/cousin) you "woke up next to". Did you not know that he would be there, or a part of the experiment?

I'm also confused for I do not know if both the neighbor and the uncle were harming you or if dreaming of one triggered memories of the other...or if there was something else here..lol.

If you wouldn't mind taking a lil' more time and offering more details, I would really appreciate it. I can't very well help the situation unless I have more info., so thank you for responding.

Bless you,

Ms. Jessie

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03/07/2008 10:59
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The who I woke up next to was a very close gay friend. yes he was part of the experiment. as i mentioned before we were practically one. when ever one of us were uncomfortable we sorta im'ed the other, without the computer. it was an attempted to either help bring my dreams vloser to the front of my conscience, or to help understand why. it didn't work. as to you other confusion, my uncle molested me for about two years, between the ages of two and four. this is the incident i refered to before that was reported. anyway, my family kept the two of us away from each other, and never spoke of him to me. being that i was that young i paid no more attention to it, and put it completely out of mind. then when i was 8 a neighbor started raping me whenever he got the chance. this became a fairly regular event due to the fact that my mother was three hours away working all week, and only home durring the weekends. my father on the other hand was a drug addict and an alocoholic, and pasted out in the back yard. the suggestion from my therapist that the two were corolated was because shortly after my neighbor started these episoded i started having dreams about my uncle. it took me a while to realize who he was because i had no idea my uncle existed, much less who he was. after the conection was made between the dreams and the episodes with my neighbor i tried to get out of the situation. didn't work, infact that is when he started getting more violent. i probably should say that before this started i dreamed all the time. i had great control over my dreams, and did most anything i wanted. then i started having the nightmares, and shortly after making the connection i just stopped dreaming.
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03/08/2008 06:42
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We don't "stop dreaming", we simply stop 'recalling' our dreams. So, it might be that you fear most of your dreams and feel that you "can't change them" so you just stop remembering them .

I am sorry that you had such trauma in your life. Abuse is never an easy thing to deal with. I know entirely too well (sigh).

Ok, one more question, in your first post you say, "How to undo this though"...what are you trying to undo?

Thanks for taking the time to respond to me again, Bunny_Fly!

Bless you,

Ms. Jessie

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03/08/2008 07:53
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At some point i would like to be able to recall what i'm dreaming. if for nothing else than to explain my sleep actions to my husband.

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03/08/2008 08:23
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Lol, ok, I think I understand now. So, lets start with the basics, ok?

A normal sleep cycle lasts 90 minutes. During this time we go thru four separate stages. With the third stage being the REM stage (dreaming stage). During the REM stage, we often go thru a period of sleep paralysis...where our bodies are unable to move and most people find it difficult to scream out if we are having a nightmare.

During the stages right before and right after the REM stage, we are able to sleep walk and sleep talk. Which might be the stages you are having a problem with, or at least your husband is having a problem understanding..lol.

When we sleep our minds are still working on the problems we have in our waking lives. So, if you have been really stressed, odds are your mind is trying to work out some way of fixing those stressful issues.

You may want to start setting some sort of alarm to wake you say, every 90 min. or every 3 hours. This will help to wake you at just the right time as you are coming out of the REM stage and are more prone to recall your dreams at this point. Or work out something so you wake (after a full nights rest) after you calculate several 90 min. cycles so you can recall at least one REM stage.

Keep a pen/paper near the bed so you can at least write down a few key words of the dream...this will help you recall the dream later (if you have to go back to sleep) once you wake up for the day.

There are several tactics you can use but I wanted you to know the basic facts concerning the dream stages we have. Perhaps you can find a workable schedule (perhaps take a 90 min. nap during the day and then work on recall that way) to help you become accustom to dream recall again.

Hope this helps!

Bless you,

Ms. Jessie

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03/08/2008 11:10
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We'll see, it will probably take a few days to get back to you on progress.
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03/08/2008 11:13
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That's kewl, Bunny, keep me posted on your progress though! Good luck!

Bless you,

Ms. Jessie

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