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01/24/2008 07:17 PM
eklord
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01/25/2008 04:56 PM  Top
Lilibit58
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lluft, your boyfriend is young and doesn't understand at all. He needs, as well as you need, to understand that rape is not about sex. It is about control. It is when someone exerts control/power over another in some sexual way, which can include oral, anal, vaginal, pornographic photos etc. If you knew the person and there were in a position of trust you will loose your trust in men and relationships.

My rape occurred 32 years ago in 1976 when I was 17. I was molested at age 6 as well, so the trust thing is very hard for me for a long time. I dated my boyfriend, whom I knew since I was 12, for over a year. He was never violent that I ever knew of until the last 5 months of our relationship. He never tried to be sexual with me and respected my wishes to wait until I was married. He did have a drug problem that he was trying to kick, but was struggling....see I try to give him excuses, when really I shouldn't. I had broken up with him and he was stalking me and threatening to kill me. There were several people who I worked with who protected me as well as my family. I, like a lot of women, still loved him and took him back 3 weeks later. We were talking and had made plans to have his house to ourselves to talk out our problems. When I got there I knew when I saw him I should have ran, but I really wanted to work things out. He had made me dinner and cleaned up the basement. Should have been a clue,...why were we in the basement when no one was home? There was a poloroid camera on the table, back then that's how you got instant pictures that developed themselves. Wondered about it but didn't say anything. When I started the conversation he said, wait before we talk I want you to do something for me. I said what, he said take off your clothes so I can take your picture. I said no. We were just getting back together (he had hit me before) my trust was not back yet. He said he needed them, I was away at work all day ... now I'm thinking he's nuts. I said no. He shoved me....all over the basement, I was running, falling and trapped. Finally after several minutes I got up and faced him and said D*** I'm going home, get out of my way and I marched to the steps. One step away he screams No, your not leaving me and grabs me by the waist and throws me, throws me behind him. I hit the wall with my head, I just threw up my hands and said OK I'll do what you want. I just couldn't get away and I was going to end up seriously injured or worse if I didn't cooperate. He's 6' 2" I'm 5" 2" I am no match for him, all I've got left is to cooperate and outsmart him. He got his upclose c***ch shots. When he was done he shoved them in my face and said if I ever broke up with him again he would show them to people, then how good would people think I was then. He didn't let me go for hours. I was trapped down there for 4 or 5 hours naked. We just stared at each other the whole time. I was trying to stay calm as not to set him off again. Eventually, he came over and got on me. Then he let me go, but when he shoved me out the door by the back of my head he said, "remember what I told you."

I got home called him and said I never want to see or hear from him again. He can put those pictures up on billboards for all I care, I can move I can change my name, but I can't marry someone who would do that to me.

I never thought what happened to me was rape. I pushed the memory back in my head and tried not to think about it. I struggled with my morality for a few years, though a few people did know about it, I chose relationships that did not involve emotional intimacy. I couldn't handle the trust part.

Eventually, I did date someone who was not violent, drug addicted etc. I married and started a family. I thought I was ok. 5 years later he, D***, was going through a difficult time in his first marriage (he's on his 4th now). Hearing about it triggered my memories of what he did to me. I was falling apart, sucidal and depressed. I was having flashbacks, nightmares and crying for no reason. Finally, I put myself in counseling. After I told her my story she said to me "So he raped you." I said "no, of course not, I didn't say no" I took me 3 months to accept and understand that what happened to me was rape even though I wasn't screaming no. "No," came when he asked for the pictures, my ability to say no to the sex was gone as I was to afraid to confront him again. When I accepted this I felt better. Does this mean I was cured...no it doesn't.

There are times when movies, life events etc trigger it. I can go long times between but sometimes I end up in counseling again. I know that when I get to the point that I'm not coping I need someone to talk to. Not everyone understands. My husband is one of them. He just doesn't get it. He never will so I don't depend on him for this kind of support.

As I said for me it was 30 years ago, it still effects me but I cope well. I understand it was not my fault, just like it is not yours. You are only responsible for what you do, once he/they took over control of you, what happened is his responsiblity.

I also want you to know that life will be very different after high school. The whole drama of school is not there when you graduate and move on. Think of it that you have lived 16 years, two is a big ratio of time for you verse me with it 32 years ago. It does get better, but you do have to feel it when it comes, talk about it with safe people who understand and won't make you feel worse and with time you will accept it wasn't your fault and he had no right. Trust comes back slowly, but only with the right person. If this boyfriend cannot be supportive (he sound like he doesn't want to loose you since he was hoping you were kidding). Try talking to him (1) without the swearing, it makes people defensive. (2) help educate him by printing up some information on what rape is, he appears to not know.

Are you ok with being not in a relationship and alone? Or does the relationship make you feel protected, even if he isn't supportive?

Keep writing here, get it out, we do understand.

Post edited by: Lilibit58, at: 01/27/2008 14:41


01/25/2008 07:03 PM  Top
alynking
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lluft--Hang in there. Your boyfriend may not ever be able to emotionally support you as far as this is concerned, but try explaining how you feel to him when you are calm. In the heat of an argument people tend to say things they regret and very little actual communication occurs.

lilibit--Thank you for sharing your story. I'm glad that you have realized that it was rape. To me, this is the classic example of what rape is. It is not about whether you said no, it is about whether you had the power to make your own choice about the situation. He took that from you. It gives us all hope that you said you cope well. This experience that we share will always affect us, but it doesn't have to define us.


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01/25/2008 07:20 PM  Top
lufft
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your story made me realize something, I've been doing the same thing you mentioned you did avoiding emotional relationships. i didnt even realize i was doing it until i read that and like you said about control it had nothing to do with sex at all i didnt understand how i could be as to be blunt slutty when those guys forced that stuff on me like you know you would assume you would never want to have sex again if that happened but i guess i was doing that cause i was trying to avoid the mental part of a relationship and the only other part is physical maybe now that i know i can try to avoid that...

we did talk and he said hes sorry but even before we brought that up i was wondering if he was right romantically for me i always was just friends with him and that was good i had trouble the whole 5 months we've been together getting used to the whole lovers thing. we decided to just be ffriends and i know hes hurting because of it but im gonna be selfish just this one time and not get back with him

the thing ive been stuck on lately though is that brian the one that just did it with his mouth (omg i wanna throw up every time i think about that) i could have stopped it. i know he raped me im not saying it was my fault he did it but i could have stopped it so easily. We were in his basement (we were friends at the time) and he was playing his gituar and i was laying on the floor listening and i forget exactly how but he ended up pulling at my pants (we didnt kiss or anything he just like grabbed at my pants) and i said no and pushed his hand away (maybe too gently) and then grabbed his hand to try to stop him from doing anything but he didnt seem to even notice and he pulled my pants down to like my knees and used his hand and then his mouth and i just kinda layed there waiting for it to be over.

His parents were right upstairs i could have screamed i could have probably just kicked him in the face and he would have stopped. the only reason he did stop is because his dad was walking around upstairs and walked kinda close to the door at the top of the stairs

Why didnt i scream what the hell is wrong with me?!!


01/26/2008 07:14 AM  Top
sweetpea012607

lufft - just because you didn't scream doesn't mean there is anything wrong with you. I didn't scream either, if I did I could have stopped it. I abandoned myself. I took myself away from the situation and let it happen. It was stupid, but it was the only way I knew how to get out.

01/26/2008 12:27 PM  Top
TeainTN
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I did scream and i got a pillow over my face and could barely breath on other cases I didn't scream. I dont think it makes a difference. it is purely survival in that moment. we do what we have to to survive. We are survivalist.
There is a light at the end of the tunnel -- but it's a train about to run over you. ;)

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01/26/2008 08:06 PM  Top
alynking
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same thing here...I tried to yell, "no", and he put his hand over my nose and mouth. I went so long without oxygen that I literally turned blue. If you tried to scream he might have stopped you anyway. The point is, you felt forced into doing something you didn't want to do. Don't beat yourself up about what you think you should have done differently, you've been hurt enough already. You need to learn to love yourself so that you can heal.

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01/26/2008 09:23 PM  Top
TeainTN
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very well put alynking.
There is a light at the end of the tunnel -- but it's a train about to run over you. ;)

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01/27/2008 12:52 PM  Top
Lilibit58
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I agree, don't beat yourself up. Doing that means your taking responsiblity for what happened and it's was not your choice so in no way is it your responsibility. Sometimes people freeze when something shocking happens, your mind just can't comprehend it so you just let it happen. That is a normal response, you are just fine, nothing is wrong with you. Something is wrong with him/them. You pushed his hand away that should be NO enough.

04/24/2013 01:58 PM  Top
help007
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Hello my name is Danielle i am 14 yearsold i was raped when i was 6 i cant stop thinking about it i need help i always take it out on my mum all the time i was raped alot of times loads i feel sorry for you but they guy ur seeing ur lucky dont let diry rpaist runined your relationship ur lucky i dont trust any boys that go near me i am scared i love this boy but i am too scared that wat raped done to me made me not trust anyone i scared of what i become i cant get over it i need some help i need someone to understand what i have been trough and this is the wesbite that dose
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