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04/15/2012 05:55 PM
mehman
mehman
 
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Hi D. Your braver than I because I don't know that I would have gone to the degree that you did for your step son. Depending on the drugs the addict can be violent and mean. The addict is not the person they would be if not for the drug and I am sure he would otherwise be a nice young man but you really can't put you own life in danger or in the situation of having a serious injury. You could have broken a bone or hit hour head on the pavement and that can be very serious.

I think you need to leave it up to his dad to any physical approach. I wouldn't be too surprised if he doesn't come home and if he does it will be a lot of work to get him clean and he has to want it. I definitely would let him do his own laundry and clean his room. You can't love and spoil them sober. If it worked that way we would all have clean and sober kids and family members. I pray that he does come home and that it will work out for all of you. Very hard road that the addict and the families travel.

I am not a doctor so any suggestions,comments or advice are purely my own and should be considered as such.
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04/15/2012 07:02 PM  Top
islandcat
islandcat
 
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I feel very sad reading your posts, everyones. It makes it real to me that I doubt my son is done with addiction even though he is in recovery now. We come to know our new kids, the addicts and you just get that feeling, you know what I mean? Its not just the giving up drugs its the change of lifestyle. My son was always the high roller, loved his clothes, his TV's, his stuff. It was all easy money so to have to start out at the bottom, hmmmm I just dont know. I am hoping to hear from him as on Mon. the 2 months black out should be over and I have sent my letter but somehow I am scared to hear from him, scared what he will say. I think this must be normal, I always remember everyone saying they thought their kids would come back from rehab wrapped in ribbon and tied with a bow and oh it so not that way. Be strong, stand up for what you believe is right, hugs Lynda

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04/15/2012 07:24 PM  Top
teetime4u
teetime4u
 
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Lynda I know what you mean, I feel the same way. Even though my daughter has been clean. Minus the fact that she has used acouple times. She is getting no real therapy for addiction and I feel she is a ticking time bomb. Now with her still trying to get back home I know it is just a matter of till till the sh;; hits the fan again. I so understand indeed. Stay strong and as sane as possible!! Love Tee.
I am not a doctor,everything I write is just an opinion and should be reguarded as such.
Live each day to its fullest. And smile things will get better!! Live, Laugh, Love and Lean when you need to. Love Tee.

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04/15/2012 08:00 PM  Top
islandcat
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You too Tee, thanks I so have your back my friend. Love Lynda

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04/15/2012 11:39 PM  Top
d725
 
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Ok, well it's almost 11pm my time and here's a shocker.....we haven't heard from junior all day.....I TRIED so hard to prepare his dad for this. His dad has tried calling him all day and still not even one word. Now I have a very sad, depressed man on my hands who is angry at the world, but I don't dare say I told you so, or anything to that effect. I took him out to play bingo this evening to get him out of the house, which seems to have helped get his mind off of his son letting him down again and it made the evening go by a little easier, plus it was fun. I won $100. Yay!

Teetime, Mehman and islandcat, a special thank you to you for your insight and words and hope. I cannot express how nice it is to have some support, because even talking with my husband about this can make me crazy. Especially on nights like tonight. When we got home from bingo I checked my email and there were all your posts which I SO look forward to reading. Your words and encouragement give me the strength and insight to keep moving forward and to help my loved ones. So a big thank you and hugs to all of you! I hope that I can be of help to someone too.

To all of you who have kids in rehab, I would like to tell you that the real work starts once someone gets out from a facility. Because they are leaving the safe environment that they are in. It is like a cocoon. Once you leave rehab, the big, nasty world is out there again and you have to deal with it.....without drugs this time! This can see easy at first and a newly recovering addict may even seem a little too confident about their new found sobriety and feel that they do not need meetings or after care or a sponsor, etc. After having 11 years clean I relapsed back in 2008. I had gotten complacent about my sobriety and felt that I no longer needed meetings, or "those people", that I could handle getting high for 1 night or a weekend, etc.....Not so. That one night turned into about 18 months for me. I lost everything and more all over again.

Today I have almost 3 years clean. (I say "clean" as opposed to "sober" sometimes, because alcohol was never an issue for me) I stay clean today by going to meetings, not associating with anyone that does anything illegal, going to school full time and for me, the biggest deterrent to picking up again is to remember where that next relapse could (and probably would) take me. I really think it through ALL the way and I ask myself is that where I want to go again......absolutely not! I guess my point is that even though a kid (or adult) has gone through rehab, there is still much work to be done. An addict must stay away from the people, places and things that were a part of their "using".

One of my favorite sayings about sobriety is this:

"You have to change just one thing - EVERYTHING!!"

I don't go out to clubs, parties, etc. I feel like I am a boring person! But you know what? I am clean. I am not sitting in jail cell and I no longer feel like a prisoner of my addiction, which is the insanity of it. You want to quit, you want to go home, you want your family. But it seems that there is always something, some situation, that drags you back in. You tell yourself that just one more _________ (fill in the blank) and I will quit, go home, go to rehab, etc. Sometimes it is also hard for an addict to give up the "life style". I cannot explain why, because it is far from glamorous! But the absolute terror of going even one day with out your drug of choice is the ultimate reason we choose to live on the street and live the way we are. There is also shame. Many times I was so ashamed of what I was doing or what I had done that I simply could not face it. So what does a good addict do in that situation? I get some more, so I don't have to even think about this stuff. And there in a nutshell is the best way I can (from my experience) explain to you WHY the addict will continue to be on the street and stay away from home. Does this make sense to anyone???? I hope so.

Isn't is so strange what we can become addicted to??? I wish that I could become addicted to eating healthy, cutting out sweets and exercise!!!!!!

So as I had said in my first post, I have been on both sides of this fence. I guess I feel and I hope that I may be able to help someone here get through one more day, as many of you have done for me. Isn't that what this is all about after all?

So right now I am going to go crawl into bed with my man, and our 2 Rottweiler puppies that keep us sane (and take up most of the bed)!

So good night to all of you incredible people out there. I pray for you several times a day, and I am so honored and grateful to have your kind words and support.


04/16/2012 07:22 AM  Top
pattB
 
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Patrice so good to post your feelings and get out some of the frustration, you and your husband have been through a great ordeal, I do believe with all my heart your son will choose to get clean, something will happen and somehow the fight to get clean will seem easier than the hassle to keep using. how long since you last spoke with him? Patti

04/16/2012 07:28 AM  Top
pattB
 
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D725 congrats on three years clean, people do and can get clean as you well know. Good you got your husbands mind off things if just for the night. You are doing very well and in a pretty good place for all things considered. Keep posting. Love patti

04/16/2012 07:31 AM  Top
sec
 
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dear d725,

i just read your post and i'm so sorry that you have to be here with us, but i feel comforted by your words. with so much craziness and sadness it is nice to hear from someone who pulled themselves through. thank you for sharing your story with us in the midst of your current situation. God bless you and your family and please God help all our kids. praying. love and oeace, sharon


04/16/2012 07:40 AM  Top
pattB
 
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Lynda, just as they get lessons in using they get lessons in giving up the high roller life, sobriety can bring lots of humility and even poverty as God knows what they need and do not need in their life. Money seems to be a big lesson, they will have to learn to meet all of life's challenges and if they keep going to meetings they get those lessons and learn to deal with them. I think you son can make it just as I believe in my heart everyone child here can make it. Sometimes we forget who they were before using and take our sights off hope for a full circle shift in them. If they do not learn the skills and remember what it could be like again as well as not work hard at sobriety they can relapse, but relapsing after clean time can mess with their using so most find their way back. D725 said it very well in her post, it take a lot of hard work but even a fall is a lesson for an addict. I do so understand the doubt and fear as most of us have come to see their actions as a personality flaw when in fact they did a lot of thigs using they wished they had not.

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04/16/2012 08:14 AM  Top
pattB
 
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Sharon nice welcoming to Doreen, I agree nice to hear how recovery has made a difference in the life of a recovering addict, how working the steps can make people get their life on track and become better people.

Just as they are addicted to drugs we get obsessed or addicted to helping them get clean, as being supportive is one thing, it can soon grab us into feeling like it is our mission, much of this is normal in the sense that a parent feels they need to save the life of their child, which is always the hook, many can in the process become addicted to the feelings associated with it, the numbness, self righteousness, the list goes on and on but the bottom line is you cannot change where a person is at in both cases, it is a called a process of recovery and I try very hard to accept where I am at as well as learning to allow others the same, as long as it does not become abusive to myself or others.

Our part in the whole mess is even more complicated than the addicts and that comes apparent in time, and the fact is, it is all o.k. because we need to heal and vent the anger and pain to get to the layer of the onion which has to do with us and how we have been damaged in the process or perhaps a deeper layer of long before we had an addict for a child or in a relationship.

I want to add for me the biggest step is learning to trust that God can do for me what I could not do for myself.

Today I trust God will help keep my kid and my mind straight just for today.

Post edited by: pattB, at: 04/16/2012 09:13 AM

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