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C2 neuralgia ForumsGeneral & SupportStereotactic Radiosurgery for ON/SON?
05/13/2009 01:08 PM
brugette
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Has anyone ever heard of this surgery or had it for occipital and/or supraorbital neuralgia. My doc wants me to go to Temple University Hosp in Philadelphia. I like the idea of it, no cutting since my body likes to produce alot of scar tissue, but will it work..?? I know the docs in Houston, TX have successfully done their surgery and relieved alot of pain in some of our members, but I don't know what to think or do, plus I'm just tired of docs not listening and just wanting to do a procedure to make $$$.

Any opinions/insights/thoughts would be appreciated. I hope the link I works, let me know. Thanks

http://neuro.templehealth.org/content/stereo.htm

As the group leader I am happy to give you my opinion on issues, but please remember I not a medical profession, just another suferer of ON.

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06/26/2009 11:21 AM  Top
cmiller
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Hey Brugette,

I guess I missed this post. I checked out the stereotactic Radiosurgery. It seems like its an upgrade to the gamma knife. I personally think this will be the way to go for ON and ONS for the future. If one can get relief by micro decompression which seems like they cut and relieve the area of compression... maybe stereotactic radiosurgery can work with ON due to its preciseness and lack of incisions (which can cause more pain with scar tissue growth). The problem with ON and surrounding neuralgias is that because it is not a simply defined disorder not many want to deal with it let alone research it and organize trials.

I did see on a UCLA webpage about their work with Stereotactic radiosurgery (srs or srt) that:

"SRS is also used for certain non-tumor conditions such as vascular malformations and trigeminal neuralgia. At UCLA, the use of a special beam shaping device permits efficient stereotactic irradiation of irregularly shaped targets".

Seems to me if they can use it for TMJ why not ON etc

Chloe

I viewed Stanfords information on SRS and they also call it the cyberknife. On considering their information it seems that its great on tumors etc because they are stable and don't tend to move around. Our problems with ON/ONS is that the nerves giving us pain are often ecapsulated inside a muscle, and muscles move around giving us different symptoms but also probably making it hard to use something that uses accuracy and preciseness for it to work. I would love to read any information on how they use it with TMJ. Just a thought.

Anyone else have personal ideas on this subject?

Chloe

Post edited by: cmiller, at: 06/26/2009 11:31 AM

I am not a medical professional. I sufferered Occipital Neuralgia and had right and left occipital nerve release surgery in 2010.
Before surgery I would throw up almost daily from the severe dizziness and had severe light and sound sensitivity. I stayed in bed, curled up in the fetal position wishing I had the courage to kill myself. If I didn't take a cocktail of antiseizure, opiates and muscle relaxers I suffered hundreds of electric shock type pains per day in my head and had a constant migraine type pain 24/7 from july 2008. I lay grieving for my life that once was the friends who once were and the void in my future.
Right surgery 100% relief; left surgery, scarring grabbed a crown nerve and I had surgery again to relieve that june 2011. Surgery really helped but was left with daily migraines triggered by certain sound pitches making living in this noisy world very difficult

06/28/2009 10:08 AM  Top
WendyLou
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Brugette - Did you ever move forward with a consult with Temple? I'd be interested to learn more about the procedure.

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06/28/2009 10:48 AM  Top
brugette
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My doc never called me back with the docs name, nor did he issue a referral for the neuro. I went in to look at my medical records last week, to make sure everythings there, and he came in and asked what I was doing. I told him I'm looking at nerve decompressoin surgery with Dr. Ducic, I even handed him some print-outs from my puter, since he never called me back about the neuro at Temple. Not a word out of him. I'm seeing him in two weeks and will discuss all of this with him.. I'm just tired of waiting for some relief, something I'm sure we all understand. Thanks for asking.... Patty
As the group leader I am happy to give you my opinion on issues, but please remember I not a medical profession, just another suferer of ON.

Some days it's not even worth chewing through the restrains.

Same Nightmare, Different Day

06/28/2009 02:14 PM  Top
WendyLou
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It's amazing to me how the docs know we are in pain and need their help when pursuing treatment, getting appts, etc and they don't hold up their end of the bargain. I don't believe they have any idea how hard it is to be in pain and also have to research and orchestrate our own treatment plans. Your strength is inspiring to me!!!

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07/01/2009 09:01 AM  Top
brugette
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Wendy today I went back to my GP's office and verified all my specialists' reports were finally there and paid $35. for a copy. I'll spend today make additional copies for myself and to send to other docs.

Next Wed. I have an appt. with my GP and I'm going to discuss with him the neuro at Temple. I have no problem going for a consult and seeing if they can help me, especially since my insurance will cover it. If I don't like what I hear or feel (intuition is great) I'll move to Dr. Ducic and then Dr. Blake if Dr. D. doesn't feel right.

I'm going to keep seeing specialists until I found the right one.

How are you holding up? Hopefully we will all find some relief sometime soon. Patty

As the group leader I am happy to give you my opinion on issues, but please remember I not a medical profession, just another suferer of ON.

Some days it's not even worth chewing through the restrains.

Same Nightmare, Different Day

07/01/2009 09:12 AM  Top
Lisasmom
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$35, for your own records? Were they printed with gold ink? Grrrrr!

Sounds like you have a good plan.

October 7, Lisa had her second nerve decompression surgery, this time on the nerves on the front of her head.

07/01/2009 09:19 AM  Top
mrsklemme
mrsklemmePosts: 164
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Last time I requested my medical records I decided to get a copy for myself as well. They told me there would be a fee for the one I had sent to myself (to send to another doctor I am not charged.) I said fine thinking maybe $10. A month later I got a bill for $87. I already had the records and had agreed so there wasn't much I could do but it seems crazy to me.

Good luck with finding your right doctor. That's my challenge right now as well Smile


07/01/2009 10:13 AM  Top
brugette
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The woman who handles the records gave me a "break" in the price. I remember having to get them a few years ago for my workman's comp case and it cost me almost $70. No gold ink then either. This time I went through my chart and pulled out what is pertinent to the ON/SON, which was neuro, PM and MRI's, etc. I didn't get my GP's noted because he doesn't do much in that area.

I'll be at my copier shortly making copies myself for further use.

I can't believe they charge us for "our" records but will send to any doc for free, what's/why the difference?

Sometimes these docs are more trouble than they are worth.....

As the group leader I am happy to give you my opinion on issues, but please remember I not a medical profession, just another suferer of ON.

Some days it's not even worth chewing through the restrains.

Same Nightmare, Different Day

07/01/2009 12:11 PM  Top
WendyLou
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Patty - So glad to hear that you have your plan in place and are moving forward. I will keep praying for you that things turn out well and you find the right answer to solve your pain. I can't believe how they charge us for our own records either. Ridiculous!!

Today is tough for me. I have a significant neck and shoulder pain and the base of my skull feels like something is would up so tight or pinched. It constantly feels like it needs to pop. Whenever that kicks up it usually means that my headache pain is going to escalate too. I can feel the weird jabs and jolts in my eye. The bad thing is when I feel like this I get very anxious about the pain. I know that doesn't help (and really only makes it worse) but for some reason it's like an internal reaction I can't control. Oh well . . . sorry for the complaining - I should just be happy that I'm not worse I guess.


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