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08/21/2008 18:13
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I have posted this already in another discussion group, but just in case no one sees it. Here it is again.

I am so glad I found this forum!

I've mentioned my problem to friends and no one can offer a solution, except "just don't get up, go back to bed!" If only it were that easy. I have tried alot of the same things as everyone else. Locking my bedroom door (I just unlock it and walk out.), hiding food I'm likely to eat during the night. I've put it in my car which is downstairs in a parking lot, but I know it will be ther for me the next day. I've taken items to work and put in my desk. I've put food up high in closets (I get a ladder out during the night to get to the food.)

I'm so sick of this. I feel like it is affecting my health. Mentally, it is HE_L.

I've been to a sleep study center. I found that I woke 23 times in the first hour. Their recommendation was a breathing machine! I do not have sleep apnea, I have NES! Don't they get it? I would not like to take a prescription. I tend to be a very healthy person. I try only eating mostly healthy foods. Those healthy foods are now packing on the pounds. I have been doing this for at least three years. I think I can date it back to when I went vegetarian, which I am no more. I'm trying to add a little meat back into my diet. No red meat, though. Also during this time, I was having difficulties in my marriage, which resulted in divorce. NES has spiraled out of control since then. I really do not want to see a therapist. Nothing against them, but I would like to beat this thing on my own.

So, how can I accomplish that with out riding my home of food? I have an 11 year old son that likes to eat.

I had (have) an addiction to peanut butter, or any nutbutter spreads. I have to limit myself. If I have any, I purchase fresh ground and only get about 4 tablespoons at a time. But, when I have it, I'm up during the night eating it. Another thing I realize I cannot have is Brummel and Brown spread. I eat it by itself! I am also addicted to carbs. Any carbs! Normally, I will eat whole grain carbs. I normally come home each day and prepare my "fix" just like a drug addict. I do not want this to control me any longer! I don't think people believe me when I say I am up EVERY night several times eating! For me it is semi-concious. I am aware of what I'm about to do, but I don't want to stop it. Also, I get up 1-1 1/2 hours after going to bed. This is the first time, then every 1 - 2 hours after that until 3:30 a.m. I know this is putting stress on my body.

I have just finished eating dinner, and I am thinking about what I can have that is sweet.

I have taken all the carby grains to my car for the night. No peanut butter in the house. Threw out the Brummel and Brown, but still have butter. I also have nuts and yogurt. So, I still have my "fixes" in the house. I wonder if I should just throw it all out. I'm afraid I would still find something to eat.

Thanks for letting me vent.

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09/07/2008 08:39
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Hello,

I found your story very similar to mine, actually. I would ask my byfriend to stop me whenever I get up during the night but when he does so, I would agressivelly ask him to leave me alone!! I would set my self obstacles on the way to kitchen to remind me I should not eat - phhh!! How naive of me!! By simply removing the clothes air dryer or a chair - I simply ate even more!!

I think the main reason why I keep going to fridge and kitchen when I get up and like an auto pilot head to the cupboard is that I am convinced that I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET BACK TO SLEEP unless I eat something sweet. And of course, who would want not to sleep when your alarm will goe off in 2-3 hours and a whole busy day at work will be ahead of you?

I am also starting to be convinced about the fact that the only doctor & cure for our NESs are our minds..

I think we need to get emotionally freed from what ever had trigerred our NES - need to dig out where it started and what was then going on in our lives what could have caused emotional imbalance and sorrows.

I have tried everything to stop it "mechanically", I have tried every medicine available for good night sleep, I have tried anti depressants which made me worse and had to binned them straight away and I have tried Melantonin which knocked me out but I still got up three times a night...

Using purely our minds and making ourselves emotionally free from the events which caused the NES (there must be some, otherwise we would not have had NES) is the way how to get out of it - maybe lenghty but also the only one as I haven't heard anything else had helped yet..

Good luck to you and everyone with NES, keep us guys posted about your progress..

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10/08/2008 12:10
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I do the same thing but i just read this maybe this can help its from sleepeductaion.

Sleep related eating disorder (SRED) is a parasomnia. A parasomnia involves undesired events that come along with sleep. SRED consists of repeated episodes of compulsive binge eating and drinking after waking up in the night.

Episodes always occur in an “out of control” manner. They tend to occur when you are only partially awake. You may have only a partial memory or no memory of the event afterward. Other people are very alert as they eat. They recall much of the episode in the morning. It may be very hard to wake you up during an episode of eating. Trying to stop a person during an episode tends to provoke anger and resistance.

A majority of people with SRED have an episode of eating nearly every night. Some eat more than once each night. These episodes tend to occur even though feelings of hunger and thirst are absent. The episodes can occur at any time in the night.

Foods that are high in calories tend to be eaten the most. It is common to eat or drink thick and sugary foods such as peanut butter or syrup. The foods eaten during sleep are usually not preferred during the day.

The foods are consumed very rapidly. An entire episode may last for only ten minutes. This consists of the time it takes to get from bed to the kitchen and back to bed again.

Injuries may occur during an episode. Sloppy food handling often occurs. You may or may not prepare hot or cold foods properly. This can cause cuts and burns. Fires can also occur from careless cooking. Alcoholic drinks are almost never consumed. You may find a very messy kitchen in the morning. This may cause you to remember the episode.

SRED may develop slowly over time. It may also begin quickly with nightly episodes of eating from the start. It is long lasting and does not seem to ease up over time. It may be a factor in causing depression. This can result from a sense of shame and failure to control the eating. Some people with SRED may avoid eating during the day. They may also get too much exercise in an attempt to prevent obesity.

Problems resulting from SRED include the following:

Eating strange forms or combinations of food, such as raw bacon, buttered cigarettes or coffee grounds

Eating or drinking toxic substances, such as cleaning solutions

Eating foods to which you are allergic

Suffering from insomnia due to sleep disruption

Sleep-related injury

Loss of appetite in the morning

Stomach pain

High cholesterol

Excessive weight gain and obesity

Who gets it?

It is not known how many people have SRED. Like other eating disorders, it is much more common in women than in men. Females represent about 65% to 80% of SRED patients. The average age when it first occurs is 22 to 29 years. It tends to be an ongoing and long-lasting problem.

SRED can develop on its own. It can also result from the use of certain medications. This is especially true of medications used to treat depression and sleep problems.

More than one sleep disorder may even be found in a person with SRED. More than half of all people with SRED had another parasomnia before SRED began. Sleepwalking is the most common sleep disorder related to SRED. Many people with SRED were sleepwalkers as children.

Other sleep disorders that can be closely linked to SRED include the following:

Restless legs syndrome

Periodic limb movement disorder

Obstructive sleep apnea

Irregular sleep-wake rhythm

Sleep related dissociative disorders

Other factors that may lead to the development of SRED include the following:

Use of certain medications

Ending the habit of smoking

Ending the abuse of alcohol or drugs

Stress

Dieting during the day

Daytime eating disorders

Narcolepsy

Hepatitis (liver infection)

Encephalitis (brain swelling)

How do I know if I have it?

Do you have repeated episodes of “out-of-control” eating and drinking during the time when you sleep?

Do one or more of the following result from your eating and drinking binges?

You eat strange forms or combinations of food.

You eat or drink inedible or toxic substances.

Your eating episodes disturb your sleep, causing insomnia. As a result, your sleep is not refreshing or you are very tired during the day.

You injure yourself.

You do something dangerous while getting or cooking food.

You have a loss of appetite in the morning.

Your health declines from eating foods that are high in calories.

If you answered yes to these questions, then you might have sleep related eating disorder.

It is also important to know if there is something else that is causing your problem. It may be a result of one of the following:

Another sleep disorder

A medical condition

Medication use

A mental health disorder

Substance abuse

Do I need to see a sleep specialist?

Yes. SRED can do more than just disturb your sleep. It can also harm your overall health and put you at risk of an injury.

What will the doctor need to know?

The doctor will need to know when the eating binges began. He or she will want to know how often they occur and how long they last. The doctor will need to know your complete medical history. Be sure to inform him or her of any past or present drug and medication use.

Also tell your doctor if you have ever had any other sleep disorder. Find out if you have any family members with sleep problems. It will also be helpful if you fill out a sleep diary for two weeks. The sleep diary will help the doctor see your sleeping patterns. This data gives the doctor clues about what is causing your problem and how to correct it.

Will I need to take any tests?

You may need to do an overnight sleep study. This is called a polysomnogram. The polysomnogram charts your brain waves, heart beat, and breathing as you sleep. It also records how your arms and legs move. The best sleep study will also record your sleep on video. This will record any unusual behaviors that occur during the night. This study will help reveal if your eating binges are related to any other sleep disorder.

How is it treated?

It is important to get plenty of sleep on a regular basis. Episodes may increase with sleep deprivation. To avoid injuries, you need to make sure that the path from your bedroom to the kitchen is safe.

Your doctor may need to change some of your medicines. A sleep specialist should check to see if you have another sleep disorder. If so, then you will also need to be treated for it. Doing so will make it easier to treat the SRED.

SRED tends to respond well to the use of medications. Once you begin taking the medicine, your doctor may have you chart your progress with a sleep diary.


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