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02/17/2010 09:16 AM
Claudi
 
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Hi everyone, my name is Claudia and I'm from Denmark.

I'm nearing my first anniversary in regards to NDPH (My headache started in March 09).

As Denmark is a very small country, with a population of 5.5 million inhabitants, I'm starting to fear that I'm the only one in Denmark with this condition. My neurologists have not been able to tell me of any support groups within the country, nor do they have any experience treating NDPH, despite being the leading authority on headaches in Denmark. (I'm being followed at a specialised clinic called Danmarks hovedpinecenter).

All in all this has been a very confusing and tumultous past year for me. I was studying law, but had to drop out of uni due to the massive amounts of reading involved. My pain is averaging around 5-6 on the pain scale with bad days all the way up to 10.

I've been on both topimax and gabapentin but none of the two lessened my pain at all, they merely made me depressed as a side effect. Now my doctors do not know what to try, so at the moment i am not on any meds. In a way that feels like a blessing because even though I am in pain, my emotions are still under my control. It is so weird being depressed for me (due to side effects), when I have always been a happy and sunny person.

My family is my life and without them I would never be able to get through this. For them I will continue to be strong even when i feel overwhelmed by everything. Despite the pain, despite my life changing, I am happy to be alive and grateful for all the small things in life that still make me smile. I will find a way to follow my dreams even if the road to get there is long. I shall try to think of it as taking the scenic route...

My heart goes out to all of you on this forum who daily battle a pain that's invisble to most people, yet very real regardless.

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02/17/2010 10:29 AM  Top
MaryR
MaryR
 
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Hi Claudia, Welcome to the group. I suspect that you are not the only one in Denmark with NDPH, though you may be one of a very tiny few (or even the only one) who has actually been diagnosed. Lots of doctors don't know what this is.

There are a lot of medications that are used over here to try to treat this, but there has been very little published literature (which is why your doctor hasn't heard of them, Topamax and Gabapentin were mentioned in a published article). There is usually a lot of trying different medicines to see what might work since each person seems to respond differently.

I wish there were some way to arrange for your neurologists to talk to a neuro over here, but I don't know how to pull that off. They would be welcome to come look on this forum for ideas (this thread might be particularly useful http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/ndph-support-forums/ medicine-treatments/96227-what-has-helped-you-part-2 ). Not everyone had an NDPH diagnosis, but most of them did (there were the occasional occipital neuralgia, chronic migraine, or other random chronic headache thrown in). The meds are pretty much the same for everything though. There are probably some more that should be on that list that people have not added recently.

I am glad that you have such great family support. That helps tremendously. I like taking the scenic route to your dreams too. I have had to modify mine some, I had my plans for what I wanted to do with my life before the headache (which I will probably revert to if I get rid of the headache) and now I have my alternate dreams that are a bit different, but more doable for my present circumstances.

Again, Welcome to the group.

Mary
NDPH support group leader
Dementia support group leader
Not a medical professional...just another patient with my own set of experiences to share.

02/17/2010 10:31 PM  Top
tortoisegirl
tortoisegirlPosts: 2791
Group Leader

Hi there! Welcome to the group. I feel (and I'm sure there are some numbers somewhere to back this up) that because NDPH is actually a new diagnosis for an old condition, so many people are either undiagnosed or misdiagnosed. I was misdiagnosed for the first 3 years despite seeing dozens of doctors and being on all the migraine forums (come to find out I needed to go to this one!). If you keep working down the migraine preventative list (there are hundreds of meds), similar to Topamax and gabapentin, you are bound to find something that will help you a little bit. There are only a handful of meds besides what doctors would use to treat migraine that have been shown helpful in some people.

Sometimes even a family doctor familiar with head pain can be better than an "expert" neuro. They are more willing to treat you as a person not just a chart if you know what I mean. I will go to my primary doctor with suggestions and he either agrees, wants to look into it more, or disagrees for a good reason. I also see a neuro more to consult every once in awhile though. More so because he keeps stats on NDPH patients though. He hasn't had any suggestions I can afford that I haven't tried.

So, don't give up hope yet! There is a lot out there to try and something you just need to be proactive. A way to be proactive without preaching to your doctor is to suggest a type of treatment (for example chiro, massage, physical therapy, Botox injections, occipital nerve block, etc), or a class of meds (antibiotics, steroids, muscle relaxers, beta blockers, anti depressant, anti seizure, ergot, triptan, etc) that you want to try. Then, you can work together to come up with a plan. That way you aren't saying "Give me X medication" and you don't walk away from an appointment without making some progress. I will keep going back to the doctor monthly until I am stabilized, even if they say they don't want to see me for 6 months or whatever, lol. Sometimes you really need to push for the right care but still be respectful.

I love your outlook and it is so great to hear about your family support. Are you ok financially? I can't imagine having to quit school/work. Thankfully I haven't come to that point yet however many days I have that I want to just give up. I got my NDPH halfway through my second year of college (engineering) and now am 1.5 years into my first job! When I look back I think of how far I have come. I am much more functional now.

Over time I found things that helped. Some little things (like knowing my limits for activities, improving my posture to relieve neck tension, getting a good nights sleep), and some bigger like some meds (everyone has different things that help them). I have just got used to the pain too. Its a part of my life and I've given up on it ever stopping, so if it does, that will be such a blessing. Everyone has different pain levels and thresholds. It is so hard to compare.

One thing-If you do decide to travel, please do your research. Sadly I have heard of a lot of people traveling for in patient treatment at a fancy headache clinic for example and they do great there, but then as soon as they get home they can't continue the same meds nor do they have the follow up care so they are right back where they started except with an empty wallet! Just an example...those types of things can turn out good too, but know what you are getting yourself into. So much can be found online now, like you finding this group which mostly has U.S. patients.

Best wishes and good luck. Hope to chat again with you soon.

Kate
a NDPH Group Leader
~I'm just another patient navigating the daily challenge of this chronic pain. Thankfully it has got easier over time,and it could always be worse.~

02/18/2010 08:12 PM  Top
Enbee
EnbeePosts: 1513
Senior Member

Hi Claudia and welcome!

It's nice to have you here. I there are probably a few other people in Denmark with NDPH but as others have said it's a 'new' diagnosis and often hard to diagnose. I know that here in Australia there don't seem to be that many people in the same situation as me, and certainly no support groups that I've found. My neuro has a couple of patients similar to me but it's not a very common disease. You will find most of the members on here are from the US, and since it's such a big country there will always be far more US people diagnosed with NDPH. We have posters from Canada, the UK and other European countries as well, though.

Sorry, to hear about the interruption to your studies. I have the same problem with reading. I used to be a big reader but I don't think I've managed to read a full book since having my headache. It is just too painful. I can flick through magazines and read a bit of stuff on the internet, but books just don't work for me Sad

Mary has provided a good link for looking at other treatment options. Topamax and Gabapentin are 2 of the first things doctors try, but there are plenty of other drugs out there so don't worry too much.

The others have provided you with some great advice. I hope to talk to you again soon.

N.

NDPH Group leader

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