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12/04/2010 09:14 AM
Jensen16
 
Posts: 747
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Dear Friends,

It's been a few months. Wanted to check in and warn new members about what happend to my child. It's almost been a year since Toothfairy55 found me here at the NDPH support group.

My teen got sick Sept 2009.

Series of diagnsoses: cold, flu, mono, mono w/bact infect, allergies, pressure point ha due to allergies, stress, faking, NDPH.

She had a list of symptoms that affected different body systems including unrelenting 24/7 headache that kind of responded to elavil and topamax, but not well. There were other problems and symptoms.

If your child is sick, nothing is working, you're getting a "list" of diagoses that doesn't seem quite on the mark. Please be sure to check for Lyme Disease and Co-infections Bartonella, Babesia, Erlichia.

My child had/has Borrelia, Bartonella (BLO), Babesia.

It's hard to kill these persistent pathogens if they are given time to entrench into tissues. My child was misdiagnosed X5 months, the pathogens are entrenched and hard to kill.

Diagnosis is "clincal", the laboratory tests are unreliable at this time.

Please for your child's sake, check out the Lyme Diseas Support Group and find a recommended LLMD (Ly

me literate medical doctor).

All my best.

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12/04/2010 12:37 PM  Top
MaryR
MaryR
 
Posts: 3870
Group Leader

Hi Jensen, good to see you, How is she doing these days?
Mary
NDPH support group leader
Dementia support group leader
Not a medical professional...just another patient with my own set of experiences to share.

12/04/2010 04:49 PM  Top
tortoisegirl
tortoisegirlPosts: 2805
Group Leader

Thanks for the info!
Kate
a NDPH Group Leader
~I'm just another patient navigating the daily challenge of this chronic pain. Thankfully it has got easier over time,and it could always be worse.~

12/05/2010 08:23 PM  Top
Jensen16
 
Posts: 747
Member

Hi MaryR!

How are you doing?

I will always remember that when I was terrified, you stayed online and held my hand when my child was so sick and suffering! Thank You!!

And you make really cool jewelry!! Smile

Do you rembmer that weird hand rash that looked like bicycle gloves on my child's hands? It progressed from being itchy to painful and her hands were frozen in a claw like position. I think the rash was a reaction to an inactive ingredient called "povidone". If anyone else has weird things happening, check out the inactive ingredients in the meds!! The rash first appeared when she was on topiramate. We stopped all her meds at the time not knowing what was going on. It took the rash about 8 weeks to clear (end of January). She didn't have any rash again until April when she started another generic med called "hydroxychloroquine" and the rash returned. We immediately stopped all meds until the rash went away. It only took a few days to clear this time because we immediately stopped as soon as the rash had started. We discovered that "povidone" was an inactive ingredient in both the topiramate and hydroxychloroquine. It did not appear in any of her other meds. I requested brand name Plaquinel instead of the generic. The hand rash has not return.

There have been significnat improvements and some relapse with the disease.

Antibiotics were started back in February. After 4 weeks, she walked out of her room and said "my brain fog lifted" (she looked suprised and amazed), her gut stopped hurting and bowels returned to normal movement. Each month saw marked improvements and decreased symptoms.

Aug 9, her headache left, a few days after the hyeracusis and tinnitus left.

From Aug - Oct she was getting stronger, more active, wanted to do more things and began making plans for school and trips.

She had been sx free from about mid Aug to end Oct, so we tried reducing/changing meds.

Within 10 days all her old symptoms returned. Oddly, they returned in the same order they had first appeared: very sore throat, abd pain/abnormal bm, headache, hyperacusis, sharp pain tinnitus.

Returned to old protocol, partial recovery in 5 days, but still sick, headache back, wanted to stay in room/bed. LLMD felt it was a relapse. Meds changed.

It's about a week later on the new meds, her headache has gone away again. No hyperacusis, tinnitus or sore throat. She's starting to act more normal again.

She's getting frustrated. She said in the car she just wants to be normal again....she's trying so hard, she is compliant with meds schedule, is trying to be patient and tries to do things to get her life back.

Had she be correctly diagnosed and treated back in Sept 09 when she first got sick she would not be in this mess right now. The misdiagnoses and incorrect treatments caused her to loose the early treatment window; that gave the pathogens time to disseminate and entrench in her tissues. That's why they are hard to kill now.

If the other moms had not found and alerted me here, I think my child would now be in a w/c in constant pain and having trouble talking.

So, that's why I try to come back here to alert others that NDPH can be a symptom of Lyme Disease and co-infections.

You can't rely on current laboratory tests; they are not reliable for these infections. You need to find a Lyme literate medical doctor who knows how to recongize the disease. Make sure to check wiht other experienced parents/patients to see if the doctor helped them or not. There are some cow pies you must avoid and the only way to do it is by talking with others who have already stepped in it.

The unsettling part is that Lyme Disease is endemic in our region. A physician here not recognizing Lyme Disease is like a physcian in Africa not recognizing malaria. How could they not see it??? So, we have no choice, we must learn how to recognize this disease and how to get the right medical help. The later is the harder of the two to do.

People who are misdiagnosed for many years have a harder time with treatment. It is important to get on it as soon as possilbe.

If you do not have Lyme Disease and/or co-infections, then there was nothing lost in doing the work up and making sure.

The worse thing that can happen is if you do have Lyme Disease and co-infections, but go undiagnosed and untreated for years. It can lead to severe debilitation, suffering, pain over many years, then death.

Please watch the movie "Under Our Skin". there are free video clips from the movie you can Google.

Hugs and Gratitude!!

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12/05/2010 09:13 PM  Top
MaryR
MaryR
 
Posts: 3870
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I am glad to hear that her symptoms are going away again, but I can definitely understand the frustration she has of being ready to be done with all the meds and just get back to normal. It is hard when it seems like you are there, but then you have a relapse when you stop taking meds and you realize you weren't doing quite as well as you thought.

Still when I think about where she was, she has come so far and is doing really really well now even if she does have to keep taking the meds (avoiding anything with that one ingredient of course...that was quite the puzzle to figure out).

Thanks for checking in every now and then to share your story.

Mary
NDPH support group leader
Dementia support group leader
Not a medical professional...just another patient with my own set of experiences to share.

12/06/2010 02:32 PM  Top
Enbee
EnbeePosts: 1518
Senior Member

Hi Jensen, I'm glad your daughter has been doing well. It must be frustrating to have a relapse after trying to come off the meds. I know there have been people who have successfully gotten off there meds and remained stable, but it can take time. I'm sure she will get there in the end but it sounds like her quality of life has improved significantly in the mean time and that is a great achievement Smile
NDPH Group leader

12/06/2010 03:51 PM  Top
Jensen16
 
Posts: 747
Member

Thanks you guys!! You're all are wonderful!!! Thank you for being there!

Watch out for Borrelia, Bartonella and Babesia! Smile

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09/20/2011 10:51 PM  Top
KathCA
 
Posts: 50
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Oh, how I wish I had seen this post back in December! Your daughter sounds exactly like mine! How is she doing now?

My daughter was just diagnosed last week, but we have to wait a month for all the labs to come back and then she will start on IV antibiotics. She has had the constant headache for over over 18 months (since 3/1/10)but she was sick before that. We now know she has been infected for over three years. We just didn't connect the dots until now.

The part of your story that really jumped out at me was the hand rash from an inactive ingredient in the meds. My daughter also had a severe reaction to a medication, a topical pain relief ointment. She developed a rash from her forehead down to just above her chin (the ointment was applied to her forehead). It was so itchy she couldn't sleep. Her headache pain also shot up to a 10 (it normally hovers between 7/8). I am going to check the ingredient list to see if the ingredient you mentioned is in there. Your post is the first time I've seen that reaction mentioned.

Come to think of it, every migraine med we tried caused her headache pain and other symptoms to increase. You've given me a new idea about why that might have happened as well.

Post edited by: KathCA, at: 09/20/2011 10:51 PM

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