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Lilibit58 Posts: 1556
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OK, got another question. What is it to be integrated? How does one do this? When you are integrated (I assume back to one person) do you forget how to dissociate?
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HiddenButterfly Posts: 4642
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From what I have been told, intergrated is a stae of basicly getting the alters to take a backseat and stop trying to be backseat drivers. Of course that is over simplifying things. There is a branch of psychology called imago therapy, which sounds very close to DID/MPD. the premisis is that when we were young, we were injured, usually accidentally, all parents do small things that to a young child are seen as traumatic. Things like during a hot summer day, you are eating an icecream cone and your toddler wants one of his own, but instead of giving them their own we give them a bite of ours. Or when we tell our children noy to let what the other children say bother them, to an adult these remarks are trivial, but to a small child, they have a completely different affect. When we grow up, we look for someone that exihibt those same quailties, so that we can heal those wounds. In a normal person these things are no big deal, but when we are abused at younger ages, or have traumatic events happen these imagos grow into their own identity and take on their own charateristics. How we get our alters. As we heal from these traumatic events, the alters are given the chance to grow as well. As they grow they realize that they are not neede to be in charge as much and start coming around to our adult perspective, therefore leting us be in chargeas we are the adults. As to whether or not we ever become one whole person agian, I am not for sure. In order to intergrate, basically getting them in line with the way we think,we have to rebuild that trust with them, letting them know that it is safe to let us have all the memories and thinmgs they have stored up. I think the process is different for each person, as well as each alter. My eight year old needed to know that she was/is loved and cared for, my two year olds need to know that it is safe for them to play and be curious, my teenager need to know that she can be mad an resentful.Each alter has their own ste of needs, as they were formed because we were too young to understand the emotions going through us as well as too young to understand what was happening to us. Of course this is my opinion, and the ideas could be wrong. Brenda Mothers tell your children
Be quick you must be strong
Life is full of wonder
Love is never wrong
Remember how they taught you
How much of it was fear
Refuse to hand it down
The legacy stops here
“Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.”
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lostgurl Posts: 404
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no integrated is when alters merge into one. through therapy a multiple can meet their alters, learn what caused them to be "born" and how to deal with the emotion they hold. often times this will cause integration because the alter is not longer needed. depending on how many alters a patient has, this may need to be done multiple times in order to become one whole entity again. sometimes it is not possible for all to merge into one core personality if the fracturing happened when the core personality was too young. ******************************
The Lights of Our Hearts
written by lostgurl
dedicated to Chris Benson
Sept. 4, 1984 – Aug. 18, 2008
The lights of our hearts have dimmed today,
for with God's calling you went away.
The newest angel to sit by his side,
has brought to his eyes a gleam of pride.
But what of us whom you've left behind?
Within earthly chains we remain confined.
Rage, confusion, and despair whirl in rapid haste
from the brutal reality we are forced to face.
Seemingly trapped within an infinite void,
full of painful tears impossible to avoid.
To turn back time is our unwavering dream,
when our heartache is at its most extreme.
Nothing in the world could ever take the place
of your laugh, your smile, or your warm embrace.
But we must find a way to continue on,
to make a new life without our beloved son.
Through the darkest of tunnels we trod ahead,
regretting petty angers and I love you's unsaid.
I pray for the day we may find some solace.
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HiddenButterfly Posts: 4642
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Sorry, guess I had too much partial answers and not enough complete answers. I have known of my alter forat least fifteen to twenty years. Thewy were just voices in my head first and I did not know what to do with them. It was really annoying. Had one psych. doc. that thought it was a psychotic feature, I dispsised that doc. My mother insisted on using him. Mothers tell your children
Be quick you must be strong
Life is full of wonder
Love is never wrong
Remember how they taught you
How much of it was fear
Refuse to hand it down
The legacy stops here
“Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.”
-Winston Churchill |
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lostgurl Posts: 404
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sorry you had a doc like that bunny. misdiagnosis is quite common. schizophrenia is the most popular misdiagnosis because of the "voices" we hear. although it is quite different and misdiagnosis is declining. ******************************
The Lights of Our Hearts
written by lostgurl
dedicated to Chris Benson
Sept. 4, 1984 – Aug. 18, 2008
The lights of our hearts have dimmed today,
for with God's calling you went away.
The newest angel to sit by his side,
has brought to his eyes a gleam of pride.
But what of us whom you've left behind?
Within earthly chains we remain confined.
Rage, confusion, and despair whirl in rapid haste
from the brutal reality we are forced to face.
Seemingly trapped within an infinite void,
full of painful tears impossible to avoid.
To turn back time is our unwavering dream,
when our heartache is at its most extreme.
Nothing in the world could ever take the place
of your laugh, your smile, or your warm embrace.
But we must find a way to continue on,
to make a new life without our beloved son.
Through the darkest of tunnels we trod ahead,
regretting petty angers and I love you's unsaid.
I pray for the day we may find some solace.
Perhaps when we meet in God's great palace. |
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HiddenButterfly Posts: 4642
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That was back in the mid-90's. He wasnot willing to listen to me, he had his own ideas and thought I was just a child, unable to express myself properly.The meds he put me on, were either not suitible for teens, or were way to high a dose for them. I was 16 or 17. When I got into college, I found a campus councelor that was more on line with these issues. She worked through the women's center. I really wish her internship was not in Cal. she was awsome. But if she would not have left, then I would not have found my current t., and Lisa is great with me as well. Been using her for the pastalmost three years. Brenda Mothers tell your children
Be quick you must be strong
Life is full of wonder
Love is never wrong
Remember how they taught you
How much of it was fear
Refuse to hand it down
The legacy stops here
“Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.”
-Winston Churchill |
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lostgurl Posts: 404
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could be how young you were, but i doubt it. i had a psych treat me the same way and i was in my 30's. pretty much called me a liar when i explained very negative side effects i was having from the meds. he also was old and of the old psych/freud(*sp) set that didn't believe in any conditions other than schizophrenia, psychosis, and the eudipal(*sp) complex. so i wasn't really helped at all by him as he didn't believe in panic disorders or MPD/DID. ******************************
The Lights of Our Hearts
written by lostgurl
dedicated to Chris Benson
Sept. 4, 1984 – Aug. 18, 2008
The lights of our hearts have dimmed today,
for with God's calling you went away.
The newest angel to sit by his side,
has brought to his eyes a gleam of pride.
But what of us whom you've left behind?
Within earthly chains we remain confined.
Rage, confusion, and despair whirl in rapid haste
from the brutal reality we are forced to face.
Seemingly trapped within an infinite void,
full of painful tears impossible to avoid.
To turn back time is our unwavering dream,
when our heartache is at its most extreme.
Nothing in the world could ever take the place
of your laugh, your smile, or your warm embrace.
But we must find a way to continue on,
to make a new life without our beloved son.
Through the darkest of tunnels we trod ahead,
regretting petty angers and I love you's unsaid.
I pray for the day we may find some solace.
Perhaps when we meet in God's great palace. |
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HiddenButterfly Posts: 4642
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Could we be talking about the same doc? Doubtful, but they probably graduated from the same school. He had put me on lithium, the more he put in my system, the less that would show up in my blood. 1700mg a day and only trace amounts were being found. You would think that would have been a signal that something was wrong. Mothers tell your children
Be quick you must be strong
Life is full of wonder
Love is never wrong
Remember how they taught you
How much of it was fear
Refuse to hand it down
The legacy stops here
“Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.”
-Winston Churchill |
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NoodleMom10 Posts: 32
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bunny_fly and Lilibit, I hAVE TEARS IN MY EYES RIGHT NOW. my DAUGHTER IS did. wE ADOPTED HER FROM hAITI. Sorry hit capslock accidentally.She was diagnosed March 2007. We have been living the textbook life that even most therapists just read. I have read a little bit in here tonite. My first exposure to this group/forum. When you talked about your alters first being voices it knocked me backwards a bit. My HubbyMan and I do not have anyone who gets it. No one to talk with to get help. Our daughter Butterfly is seeing a therapist and a psychiatrist. She is fairly stable right now after a hellacious summer. Long long story and I will probably share it later. Thank you so much both of you for being transparent with the sharing of your disorder. I am a survivor of child sexual assault as is my sweet girl. I am so computer illiterate and hope that I dont lose this place. I have been on the lupus board a while but get lost so often. For instance I started a diary but now cant figure out how to log in another entry. I am going to bookmark this section. I should be able to find it again that way as well as with a ton of prayers. Kasey Post edited by: NoodleMom10, at: 09/14/2008 17:03 Kasey wife to my HubbyMan and Mom to my ten kiddoes
LuvBug 25, BooBear 23, FroggyGirl 19, Butterfly 16,
GuitarMan 15, LittleMiss 13, LittleMan 13,
BrainyBoy 11, Skooch 8
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HiddenButterfly Posts: 4642
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Noodlemom, glad to be of help. Having a place where I can be open about my altershelps in being able to accept them as they are. The more accepted they feel, the easier they are to manage. Brenda Mothers tell your children
Be quick you must be strong
Life is full of wonder
Love is never wrong
Remember how they taught you
How much of it was fear
Refuse to hand it down
The legacy stops here
“Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.”
-Winston Churchill |
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