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12/26/2007 11:50
Julie4848
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Thanks, will have to change my vitamins around. How do you know so much about lyme?? What you say seems very interesting.

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12/26/2007 12:09
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Lyme is my hobby, but therapy using natural ways to cure random diseases is hmm... maybe "job" is wrong word here, its something im doing for years. Month ago i cured guy with chronic fatigue syndrome, he had temperature and joints pain since may. Two weeks on multivitamin and he was healthy.

Feel free to ask anything you want about vitamins and other suplements.

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12/26/2007 13:34
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Intersting...

So what do you think are the best for lyme when one can't abx like me. This way I can print out the list and so my doctor what I'm going to try. He is up to anything I want to try...He is very open minded...

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12/26/2007 15:03
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As I said, first - two weeks of eating suplements, big numbers of them, really big (just don't overdose, best way would be using numbers I mentioned on website). Try to use natural ones, for example - do not take so many pills with vitamin C, try oranges and grapes instead. Vitamins A, D and E should be taken together with food that contains alot of fat.

Remember to ask your doc about vitamin C, calcium and zinc - they can block your antibiotic. If he allow you, eat as many vitamin C as you can, 2000 - 3000 mg would be fine. Its possible to take inections with vitamin C, but not every doctor agree to such therapy.

Remember to take vitamin B12 shoot and eat alot of folic acid, they will protect your nerves. Damages to nerves are nearly always permanent, so its important to protect them at all cost.

Then - when you give to your cells everything they need to fight - stimulate your defence system with everything you can find, still eating suplements. Try this sequence - one week with, let's say garlic, one week without any stimulation, then one week with - for example - cats claw. There is no rule what one will stimulate you most, everyone react different way. For you it might be olive leaf, for someone else - something completely different.

Lyme is just like every other bacteria disease, without active response of your white blood cells it would kill you in 3 weeks. Your body is fighting against disease - and now its question if your white blood cells can kill bacteria faster than they breed. If they can - you will be fine in no time. If they cannot - bad luck. But they nearly always can, I saw it many times already. Antibiotics surely help them in fight, but its only help, these drugs alone cannot defeat Lyme.

Even if this tactic fail to heal you completely (without antibiotics its possible), it will surely help you alot.

There are other ways to cure Lyme, stimulation with oxygen and so on - but they all have strong side effects and often fail (therapy mentioned above is completely safe). I will not suggest any of them, as I do not know exactly what kind of side effect they have.

btw. I know around 20 victims of Lyme from my city (endemic area), NONE of them had ABX, every of them was cured completely after 3 weeks of doxy besides one woman, who was on doxy 6 months.

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12/28/2007 07:16
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so are you saying doxy is a good drug for this? My doc just put me on doxy yesterday. He says it doesn't kill, but it stops it from reproducing. He said it's one you have to be on for a while because of that, and you need to combo it with another drug. I totally agree, we need to build up our immune systems, you will never go into remission or be "cured" if you don't. Exercise is a must as well, all said by Bruscanno.
Please do not take anything I say as medical advice. I am not a doctor.

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12/29/2007 08:40
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Yepp, exercises also stimulate immune system, especially in joints - its separated from other parts of our body, so we need to "stimulate" this in order to increase local production of white blood cells.

And yes, doxy is excellent drug against Lyme, first - it kill alot of bacteria (not all of them tho), second - it cures most of coinfections, and last advantage - doxy can easily pass through blood-brain barier

sorry for my english, I know some medical terms must sounds funny, but I was forced to learn english in few months

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01/01/2008 19:45
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So Julie, how it's going with vitamins? You should feel change already
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01/02/2008 03:59
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HI:

Ok I guess not sure yet. Neck pain is gone but I have the numbness in my hands and legs at the moment...

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01/02/2008 09:56
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Hey i was on doxy,i didnt even last a month,i started to get sick and and was afraid of what now i believe was a herx.I wasnt a part of this grp at the time so i didnt no that the whole herx thing is a good thing.I made my llmd put me back on ceftin,But when i see him this week i think im gonna have him put me back on doxy,Because i have not been feeling to good,alot of old symptoms back..JENN
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03/18/2008 21:32
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Julie Julie, how its going on with vitamins? Did they helped? Or maybe you found antibiotic that don't cause allergy?

Anyway

http://www.lyme.aquahobby.eu/nature.html

I updated it, including something from Gerson diet and Budgiw protocol.

Anyway, I think that you should check out the story about Gerson and tuberculosis, there is pretty nice article on Wiki about it.

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