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New Info SAMENTO & BANDEROL SEPT. 2010 PHA

Bettyg
 
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Promising New Information about Samento, Banderol SEPT. 2010.

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi? ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=104266;p=0

lululymemom

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posted 02-19-2011 11:00 AM

This report states that most patients see improvements within a couple of weeks of starting this protocol, which in my opinion is worth trying. It must be rotated in the way he describes to be effective.

It also addresses biofilms which is at the root of most chronic cases.

http://www.publichealthalert.org/Articles/miscellaneous/ herbal%20tx%20in%20ld.htm

Herbals Outperform Antibiotics in Treatment of Lyme Disease

(Originally published in CAM magazine, September 2010: www.cam-mag.com

One of the world's leading Lyme Disease researchers has tested a natural treatment protocol based on the Cat's claw (Uncaria tomentosa) product Samento and Banderol (from the Otoba plant) and found that it is at least as effective as conventional antibiotic treatment - and for some forms of the disease, more effective, reports CAM editor Simon Martin.

Dr Eva Sapi, PhD, a professor of cellular and molecular biology at the University of New Haven, Connecticut, was the first person to discover that the microbe that causes Lyme disease, Borrelia Burgdorferi (Bb), creates biofilm communities that protect it from the immune system - and from antibiotics.

Medical malpractice lawyers are warning doctors that a Lyme Disease rash is often misdiagnosed as poison ivy or ringworm. Other symptoms are commonly confused with the flu or a musculoskeletal injury.

"The failure to diagnose Lyme Disease can have devastating consequences, including brain damage due to meningitis, heart damage due to infective endocarditis, Lyme arthritis and Bells' Palsy," say leading malpractice lawyers Bottar Leone.

Pleomorph

The microbe is classified as a spirochete bacterium, but is a pleomorph; it cycles between different forms, some of them inactive - one of these a cyst form, as well as the colony-like biofilm - in response to the presence of antibiotics.

"Unfortunately, when Bb is in these inactive forms, conventional antibiotic therapy will not destroy the bacteria,” say Sapi and her colleagues.

"The frontline treatment for chronic Lyme disease is administration of tetracyclines (e.g. doxycycline) or macrolides (e.g. clarithromycin).

However, even after 3 months of treatment with these drugs, only a 50%-60% improvement rate is observed in patients, with a cure rate of only 20%.

Besides this, the conventional antibiotic treatment... has several disadvantages, including relapse of disease, high treatment cost and extremely unpleasant side-effects."

Eliminate all forms

"In this study, our working hypothesis was that for an efficient therapy, we have to find antimicrobial agents that can eliminate all the forms of B. burgdorferi," Prof Sapi and colleagues reported.

"During the course of Borrelia infection, the bacterium can shift among the different forms, converting from the spirochete form to the others when presented with an unfavorable environment and reverting to the spirochete when the condition is again favorable for growth.

To successfully eradicate B. burgdorferi, antimicrobial agents should eliminate all those forms, including the spirochetes, round bodies, and biofilm-like colonies.

"Here we have provided evidence that two natural antimicrobial agents (Samento and Banderol extracts) had significant effect on all three known forms of B. burgdorferi bacteria in vitro.

We have also demonstrated that doxycycline, one of the primary antibiotics used in the clinic to treat Lyme disease, only had significant effect on the spirochetal form of B. burgdorferi."

Both herbal products are part of the Cowden Condensed Support Program, which has been in use against Lyme since 2006. Dr Cowden's protocol was previously tested in 2007 by Dr Richard Horowitz, who found a 70% rate of improvement, significantly higher than previous clinical trials on pharmaceutical antibiotics.

Sapi - a sufferer leading the charge against Lyme

Before Dr Eva Sapi's brain swelled after she was bitten by a deer tick, she was researching cancer cures. She now sees a naturopathic physician and is relentlessly dedicated to finding agents that reliably kill B.burgdorferi.

"Samento and Banderol are found to be important herbal allies in this study conducted by our friends at the Lyme Disease Research Group of the University of New Haven," commented Suzanne Arthur of the Lyme Disease Research Database.

"In our interview with Dr Sapi, director of the graduate program in Lyme disease research, she promised that she was quite determined to find an effective agent that would 'kill the bug - and soon'. So, this study is proof that Dr Sapi is following through with her promise.

It is a hopeful note in the battle against the nasty bacterial complex we know as Borrelia burgdorferi."

Testing negative is common

Dr. Sapi was appalled to find that when it came to Lyme diagnosis and treatment, chaos reigned. Despite her own symptoms, she initially tested negative for the infection.

"Researchers don't even know what Lyme Disease is," she says. "I realized that somebody had to go back and test the ticks."

A noted researcher and former Yale post doctoral/operative fellow in therapeutic radiology, Dr. Sapi quickly made a breakthrough: she discovered that deer ticks could be infected with mycoplasma, a rogue life form.

The tick passes the mycoplasma onto the human, resulting in all kinds of chaos. Once she began looking, she found other pathogens living in deer ticks.

Such chaos occurring in patients who test negative for Lyme Disease, including a herd of doubting physicians she had consulted for her own illness, moved her to help. "I have been to so many doctors who laughed at me," she said.

One of her research teams is now using nanotechnology to create a new, more accurate detection test. As it stands now, the best test for Lyme Disease still yields a 70% false negative rate.

Improvement

"If you know a person has mycoplasma, you can treat it," Dr. Sapi says. She cited a small New Jersey study of seven patients with Lyme symptoms who tested negative for Lyme Disease.

But when the physician handling the cases tested for mycoplasma, all seven patients tested positive. Once treated, they all showed signs of improvement.

Dr. Sapi presented research on mycoplasma at the national Lyme Disease conference at the University of New Haven in

May, and has submitted a paper on the topic to the Journal of Medical Entomology. She has also been seeing a naturopathic doctor, whose treatment seems to be working.

Why the herbal program works better than pharmaceuticals

Two leading Lyme Disease experts commented on the New Haven study exclusively for CAM.

Dr Philip Kielman, who conducted the five-doctor study featured in our May 2009 issue, told us that in addition to Lyme Disease the products used in the recent research could potentially be used for other conditions.

The combination of the herbals' properties suggests they would be active against these infections and conditions:

* E-coli

* Mycoplasma

* Rickettsiae

* Salmonella

* Shigella and streptococcus

* Common bronchial infections (acute pharyngitis, bronchitis, sinusitis)

* Infections of the urinary tract

* Stomach and bowel problems.

Dr Lee Cowden, MD, who has developed an extensive treatment protocol for Lyme Disease and who was a keynote speaker at the Rio Health-sponsored CAM conference earlier this year, says that he was not surprised by the results.

Dr Cowden and many other colleagues have noticed from their clinical experience that the antimicrobial herbals outperform pharmaceutical antibiotics - which is what you would expect given the herbs' broad spectrum activity, against which microbes find it very difficult to adapt.

Dr Cowden commented: "The recent in vitro research at the University of New Haven, Connecticut, using the Nutramedix herbals Banderol and Samento against Borrelia bugdorferi, when compared to the pharmaceutical doxycycline, confirmed what I and others had observed clinically in Lyme Borreliosis patients.

"Many patients with Lyme Borreliosis fail to improve clinically with doxycycline (or any other pharmaceutical antibiotic), but improve dramatically in a few weeks on the Condensed Cowden Support Program that includes Banderol and Samento as the primary antimicrobials.

Less Recurrence

"Also, patients who use the Program appear to have a lower likelihood of recurrence of Lyme Borreliosis than patients who are on pharmaceutical antibiotics when the therapy is stopped, presumably at least in part because the herbal agents appear to eliminate the biofilm microbial colonies and other hiding forms of Borrelia burgdorferi better than the pharmaceutical antibiotics.

"Richard Horowitz, MD, in New York state, has placed several hundred patients who failed with pharmaceutical antibiotics on the Program and reports that well over 70% improve after several weeks on the all-natural, predominantly herbal program.

Broader Spectrum

"He and I have observed that Lyme Borreliosis patients who eat less junk food, eat less allergenic food, drink more water, plus take the additional organ-support herbs and detox substances found in the Program improve more consistently and more rapidly than those who take only the antimicrobial herbs.

"The other benefit of the herbal program over pharmaceutical antibiotics in these Lyme patients, that I believe future research will prove, is that the antimicrobial herbals have a much broader spectrum of action than any pharmaceutical and are capable of simultaneously eliminating the coinfections including babesia, bartonella, rickettsia, mycoplasma, microfilaria, fungi and viruses."

Revised 2010 protocol for treatment of Lyme Borreliosis (Lyme disease)

Schedule:

* Samento 10 drops, 3 x per day for 60 days (may be combined with antibiotics).

Support:

* Detoxification of the kidneys by drinking enough water (min. 1.5 litres per day). o Burbur detox (works on the kidney, liver and lymph) 8 drops. 4 x per day.

* Green Magma Organic Green Barley Grass Juice extract may be used as further aid to detoxification where required. Suggested dose: 3-6g powder (1-2 teaspoons) or 10 tablets per day

* Caution: Warn of a possible Herxheimer reaction.

Lyme Borreliosis; Chronic Schedule:

* Start with Samento 1 drop, 1-3 x per day.

* Increase dosage with 1 extra drop a week to 10 drops, 3 x per day. (If there is a Herxheimer reaction, or extreme tiredness, stop for 1 day and start slowly again with the lowest dosage with which it was going well).

* Use Samento for 12.5 days and then stop for 1.5 days.

* After 1 month at 30 drops per day - substitute use of Samento with use of Banderol 2 x 20 drops and continue with Banderol for 12.5 days, then stop for 1.5 days, then switch back to use of Samento.

Thereafter, rotate the use of Samento and Banderol. This should prevent the bacteria from building up a resistance to Samento.

* In case of co-infections (present in 45% of chronic Lyme disease cases), add Cumanda (build up to 20 drops, 2 x per day) for 8-12 months.

This should be used in addition to either Samento or Banderol.

Support:

* Detoxification of the kidneys by drinking enough water (min. 1.5 litres per day).

* Burbur detox (works on the kidney, liver and lymph) 8 drops, 4 x per day.

* Green Magma Organic Green Barley Grass Juice extract may be used as further aid to detoxification where required. Suggested dose: 3-6g powder (1-2 teaspoons) or 10 tablets per day.

* Other suggested supportive supplements: Magnesium malate (highly recommended), Bromelain, Chlorella, Colloidal silver, Dandelion root.

* Blood group diet.

* Caution: Warn of a possible Herxheimer reaction. The daily dose may be administered in fewer or more doses as required - i.e. 2 x10 drops = 3 x7 drops etc.

Post edited by: Bettyg, at: 02/19/2011 12:46 PM

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02/20/2011 12:31 PM
UKRobert
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Cool

My Banderol is in the post.


02/21/2011 02:11 AM
goodbylyme

Thanks Betty. Excellent information.

I hope Dr Sapi works hard at a cure and soon. Its nice to have a research doctor in our corner.


02/21/2011 02:19 AM
shorelinelyme
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I love the samento/banderol combo...and it did make me feel very well quickly in the summer when I started this. It was one of the first combos that made me feel better- instead of worse!

I'm so excited about the work Eva Sapi is doing...and I pray that they just keep uncovering more effective treatments. I have to congratulate University of New Haven in CT....for supporting this research venture...

Where is Univ of CT (my alma mater), Yale, etc...????? They are supposed to be research institutions!

Jackie

Smile


02/21/2011 02:47 AM
goodbylyme

Hi Shoreline, I have a few questions.

can you get these at the health food store?

Have you been using this product everyday since last summer?

Did you take it with antibiotics?

As for the Universities, I think they are only researching areas where they can make a lot of money. Its sad.

Thank you Univ of New Haven!!!


02/21/2011 03:22 AM
shorelinelyme
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I have bought them on-line (Susan Ambrosino's site-my herbs.net or Nutramedix- more $) or bought them through my Naturopath. I buy them both for about $30 each- not cheap.

I take them while on abx. I spoke with my LLMD about it and he was ALL for it. I take Samento 12 1/2 days on 1 1/2 days off...I pulse the Banderol...but I might change to the schedule posted here.

I understand about the $$- but CT has been hit hard with Lyme disease...It's funny - because Univ. of New Haven is a fairly small school- about 20 minutes down the highway from me.

It was famous before for Dr. Henry Lee-(prof. there) famous forensic specialist (OJ Simpson trial)....so I guess Eva Sapi is like the Lyme forensic specialist!

What is crazy...is if you looked at areas of research at these larger institutions...some seem ridiculous- like studying frogs & pondwater...

Just my opinion.

Jackie

- Maybe the next time the Univ. of CT alumni assoc. calls for donations from the Pharmacy school (my husband) or the Business school(me)- I will say NO...I am giving my money to Eva Sapi @ Univ. of New Haven for Lyme research. (they call monthly!)

Post edited by: shorelinelyme, at: 02/21/2011 03:52 AM


02/21/2011 12:31 PM
UKRobert
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Argh... mine are also made by Nutramedix but it costs me £30 a bottle... that's nearly $50 isn't it?

Ah well... it's doing me good.


03/06/2011 06:20 PM
meluveitie
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I've been taking the Samento on and off for a couple of months now and I wanted to add the Banderol but I'm confused by this post. It says to take the Samento for 30 drops a day for 60 days but then it says take it for 12.5 days and 1.5 off then rotating with Banderol, which would it be? Do you not take the Banderol with it?

01/29/2012 10:08 PM
lorr
 
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im confused also

04/04/2014 08:27 AM
SoAfraid
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I found this really old post and I was wondering if these pulsing schedules (see below) were still advisable today? Sounds like it will be perfect for me and others. Does anyone use this method?

"Revised 2010 protocol for treatment of Lyme Borreliosis (Lyme disease)

Schedule:

* Samento 10 drops, 3 x per day for 60 days (may be combined with antibiotics).

Support:

* Detoxification of the kidneys by drinking enough water (min. 1.5 litres per day). o Burbur detox (works on the kidney, liver and lymph) 8 drops. 4 x per day.

* Green Magma Organic Green Barley Grass Juice extract may be used as further aid to detoxification where required. Suggested dose: 3-6g powder (1-2 teaspoons) or 10 tablets per day

* Caution: Warn of a possible Herxheimer reaction.

Lyme Borreliosis; Chronic Schedule:

* Start with Samento 1 drop, 1-3 x per day.

* Increase dosage with 1 extra drop a week to 10 drops, 3 x per day. (If there is a Herxheimer reaction, or extreme tiredness, stop for 1 day and start slowly again with the lowest dosage with which it was going well).

* Use Samento for 12.5 days and then stop for 1.5 days.

* After 1 month at 30 drops per day - substitute use of Samento with use of Banderol 2 x 20 drops and continue with Banderol for 12.5 days, then stop for 1.5 days, then switch back to use of Samento.

Thereafter, rotate the use of Samento and Banderol. This should prevent the bacteria from building up a resistance to Samento.

* In case of co-infections (present in 45% of chronic Lyme disease cases), add Cumanda (build up to 20 drops, 2 x per day) for 8-12 months.

This should be used in addition to either Samento or Banderol.

Support:

* Detoxification of the kidneys by drinking enough water (min. 1.5 litres per day).

* Burbur detox (works on the kidney, liver and lymph) 8 drops, 4 x per day.

* Green Magma Organic Green Barley Grass Juice extract may be used as further aid to detoxification where required. Suggested dose: 3-6g powder (1-2 teaspoons) or 10 tablets per day.

* Other suggested supportive supplements: Magnesium malate (highly recommended), Bromelain, Chlorella, Colloidal silver, Dandelion root.

* Blood group diet.

* Caution: Warn of a possible Herxheimer reaction. The daily dose may be administered in fewer or more doses as required - i.e. 2 x10 drops = 3 x7 drops etc."

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