With the special dietary restrictions and so forth needed during Lyme treatment & recovery, it means I will have to be even more conscious of making sure I'm getting adequate nutrition. My LLMD (ND) will be helping me with this, but it does not replace having support from others who are going through similar experiences so you can help eachother stay on top of things together, too.

Now, that said,.... with Lyme-brain ruling my world, I forget things all the time, my vitaminss, my meds,... and really haven't been doing nearly as well at eating like I should as it is lately due to getting nauseated after I eat (I know, Lyme tummy ),... so I am going to have to strive even harder to make sure I'm keeping up on this for myself.... maybe I could use a fellow veg-Lymie to help hold me accountable? LOL,.. And vice versa?

What I want to know, is if there are other vegetarian Lymies here for support in that area as well so that we can share thoughts, tips, ideas, and so forth. Just thought it was worth throwing out there.

Post edited by: beauty4ashes, at: 11/17/2008 21:46

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Tips? I don't know that any are really needed. Vegetarian diets are very healthy. I was as healthy as a horse (also vegetarians lol)before lyme disease knocked me down. My immune system was strong. When I finally got knocked down by lyme I was going through a very stressful time. If it wasn't for the stress my body might still be fighting it off.

I guess one thing I always make sure of is to eat lots of whole grains. Meat animals are fed whole grains and so meat eaters can get their minerals that way. Vegies have to go straight to the source, to the grains themselves. Leafy greens are important too. But of course that's true for anyone. Oh and beans. I keep lots of canned beans in the cupboard. I found an East Indian store where they have all kinds of beans and peas in curry sauces. On days that I don't have energy to cook I can open a can on toast or rice.

Good idea for a thread, Beauty! Hopefully there's a few more and we can share more tips!

Bonita

How wonderful - on of the rarest blood types. I cannot live without meat tho.

AND - fat content can help with the replenishment of the mylien sheath - which is part of the problem with nerve damage. The mylien is distroyed - so make sure you take a supplement to replenish if you dont eat meat. Not that I sit and chew on hunks of fat - but I dont trim all of it off either. And I am a sucker for crunchy chicken skin...

As much as I love veggies and fruits, I have always ended up feeling rather blah when I go without red meat after a few days. And I am a very very rare meat eater - slightly more done then black and blue...

But that's me.

Christine

This is just rough smaller portions of meat as it says your type has a weaker digestive acid,OK here we go: Highly beneficial-Lamb Mutton Rabbit and Turkey,Avoid Beef bacon chicken duck goose pork veal venison

Seafood Beneficial- Cod Salmon Ocean Perch Avoid Crab Haddock Halibut Herring Shrimp

Beneficial - Cottage Cheese Feta Cheese Mozzarella Yogurt sour cream

Avoid Icecream whole milk parmesan butter american cheese

Olive oil Only

Beneficial Peanut Butter peanuts walnuts

Beneficial Millet oat bran spelt puffed rice oatmeal brown rice sprout bread beets potatoes yams cauliflower broccoli

Cranberries cherries figs grapes lemons pineapples

cabbage carrot celery

Avoid all pickled stuff and ketchup

Beneficial - coffee green tea

This is just rough.. too much typing to list the bad stuff so i ended up putting in the common highly beneficial for your AB Type.

Hope its ok to post on the forum in case more of the 2% of the Pop is here

I should say while we're on this subject, and one of the things I've been contemplating, is whether the vegetarian lifestyle is something I should continue. I have been on the fence for several months now wondering if it's really the right thing for me afterall.

I went vegetarian for a few reasons, one being inhumane animal treatments, health reasons, and such. I still feel strongly about inhumane slaughters, etc., and so even if I decide to go back to consuming meat, I plan to purchase organically from local farmers that also certify themselves as humane in the those areas.

I also am very interested in possibly changing back, one, because I am not keeping up on my nurition like I used to, and that is probably why I have been craving certain meats lately. I know now that I am deficient in several areas, and that is likely why the craving of fish has been so strong,.. I needed the omega-3 fatty acids & whatnot. Now, rather than do it alternatively, I have to admit, I have been eating some fish this past week, I just wanted it too darn bad to use a supplement. That was my first meat in just short of THREE years!

Anyway, two,.. religious reasons. I am a christian, and so is my LLMD who is also a naturopath. I have been weighing thoughts on the subject of vegetarianism, animal rights, and my faith, etc. for awhile... I came across a book awhile back on amazon, but hadn't ordered it yet. Really wanted to, but waited,.. then as usual, forgot about it. When I went in to the office this morning, low and behold, there was the book!

I thought,.. "Maybe God is trying to tell me something". Afterall,... it was just a couple of months ago that all this Lyme info started falling in my lap online, then a big two-page article on it in our quarterly homeschool magazine, then I met a new friend in our homeschool group, and found her husband has Lyme,... I remember thinking, "God, are you trying to tell me I have Lyme Disease?", and so I looked into it deeper, and sure enough, I have Lyme Disease! And,.. my meeting my new friend was also a huge blessing because it led me to the very same LLMD (ND) that they see, and he is PHENOMINAL! I feel so safe there.

Anyway though, back to the stay a veggie or switch back thoughts I've been having... So, I talked to my doctor about it briefly, and purchased a copy of the book, "Eatin' After Eden - The Meat of the World" by Sylvia W. Zook, MS, PhD. Also turns out the author lives right here, and is a friend of his, small world!

Soooooooo, I guess I should have mentioned this, too, when I started this thread.

Bonita, this thread has really taken some hairpin turns, huh?? Do you ever have thoughts of switching back? I am going to feel bad if I started this thread for veggie support and then now after my morning with my ND, make a change back.... guess we'll just have to start new threads or something, LOL

Right now, I am opening my mind to the idea. Because I have faith contemplations at work in this now, too, I am giving it a lot more careful thought, going to read this book, and I guess we'll see where my heart leads me (or God for that matter). I am really glad to have such a supportive ND on SO many levels!

Okay, now that I've written yet another novel on the forum, LOL .........

I am type A+... what's your book say for me, Connie & Ron?? I'm very curious!

Thanks for bearing with me on all of this you guys,.. I'm feeling very uncertain right now. And soy,.. don't get me started there!

(((HUGS)))

I'm F.I.N.E.
Frustrated, Irritated, Nonfunctional & Everything hurts!!

Sarcasm: Embrace it!
______________________

"Always hold your head up, but be careful to keep your nose at a friendly level" - Max L. Foreman
______________________

I know God will not give me anything I can't handle.
I just wish he didn't trust me so much.
- Mother Teresa
______________________

"There's always light at the end of every tunnel, just pray it's not a train! "
______________________

Faith makes things possible, not easy!

First I think it's interesting how you learned you had Lyme disease, as if Spirit or God was trying to tell you something. I learned about me Lyme through a dream! Maybe it's a coincidence that both of us had experiences like that and we are both vegies but maybe not. A lot of spiritual seekers are vegetarian. A lot of them feel it helps them stay closer to spirit.

I'm not Christian but there's a large community of Seventh Day Adventists a few miles up the road from here and they are all veg. They're all pretty healthy and the kids are so well adjusted and mellow with clear skin and eyes. I doubt it's only the diet but I think it does help.

Like I said earlier, I became veg after I already had Lyme disease. I probably had Lyme for about 6 years, but I didn't know I had it yet. I definately noticed an improvement in my health after quitting meat, even though my diet wasn't that hot at first. A lot of the nausea and tiredness I was feeling was gone. Also I had been having bad pms and after 3 months of the new diet I had no pms. My periods came on clockwork after that with no pms at all. It was like a miracle.

When the Lyme disease finally became full blown it did knock me down hard. I managed to make quite a bit of headway with a vegan diet. I'm not a strict vegan but I stopped eating dairy when I got really sick. I started following an ayurvedic diet for the ill which stresses simple, easily digestible food. I was bedridden at first sleeping 20 hours a day. I was so weak I could hardly move. Now I'm still pretty sick but I can get around and now sleep about 10. I can do housework and some shopping and stuff. I only started treating myself for Lyme a few months ago so I expect (I hope) things will pick up a bit faster now.

You said you're feeling pretty sick but that's most likely the Lyme. I'm sure the meat eaters feel as sick as we do. I wonder, are you taking any flax oil? It may help with the fish cravings. Also it's important to eat a wide variety of foods. Try to add something new to your diet at every opportunity. It makes for a more well rounded diet. If you do feel you are being prompted to switch your diet, then you probably should just follow your heart. Myself I don't think I could ever go back to eating meat now. I find it discusting. I hope the meat eaters don't take that too personal. My husband still eats meat, he even hunts his own. I respect other people's choices.

I quit meat for the same reason you did. We have an organic farm and I wanted to raise pigs for meat. I took a government course on how to do it and what I learned shocked me. I also helped a neighbour on their cattle ranch for a while. You don't want to know what goes on.

Anyway, I could go on and on. Just do what you feel is best for you Beauty. Besides you can always switch back too if you change your mind. Bonita