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Lyme Disease ForumsDoctor (LLMD) Requestsa sincere question.
01/24/2012 07:33 PM
frankjay
Posts: 12
New Member

Hello, this is sincere. Why does it seem the information about who is an LLMD is so secretive?

I have found this on other sites also. One site you can make three queries in 30 days, and I went thru them in one day because our definition of Central NJ was different. .

I guess I am frustrated because I posted in Mid December for information on some doctors and had to use initials and to date I received one reply to my query.

I would love to have some place to go where I could ask...Has anyone dealt with Dr. Frankenburger from MyTown, NJ and what are your impressions.

I have had ONE recommendation from here, and one offer to help. I do have a friend whose husband goes to an Inf.Dis doctor for LYme and has been helped a great deal even aftr his second tick bite.

But it seems most participants on lyme forums say stay away from them and only go to LLMD....is that the case in general.

Is my assessment of the LLMD secrecy accurate or am I missing something.

Any answers addressing my query will be appreciated. I am still frustrated and confused with this and have not seen a doctor yet because of an eye injury and haven' been able to drive. for two m onths...

thanks again for any help.

Frank in NJ

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01/24/2012 07:45 PM  Top
WiscLamLymie
WiscLamLymie
 
Posts: 1325
Group Leader

Hey Frank,

Yes, sadly it is the real deal. Our Lyme doctors go against IDSA protocol. While this might not mean much to anyone who isn't in the medical profession, it means A HUGE DEAL to them.

You see, if a doctor is caught going against IDSA protocol, the insurance companies #1 don't have to pay for the treatments legally, because it's not what "the book" says to do.

In our case, "the book" is written incorrectly.

Also, insurance companies like to flag and put doctors out of business that don't do what big brother tells them to do, i.e. the IDSA.

This is why most LLMDs don't accept insurance anymore. It's just one more way to stay below the radar of big brother.

Also, LLMDs don't have their names advertised because if the insurance companies don't get them, the medical boards will. This happened just over these last several months with my own LLMD.

He was hounded by (really one person on the) med board, he had his license suspended, and then we were all lied to when it came time for his hearing. They said they reached an agreement, and no one showed up to support him.

Then, AFTER he had left the hearing, they suspended his license. He didn't even find out until the next day. It was awful. Then when it came time for the next hearing, we all got conflicting dates as to when it was.

They didn't want us there. They didn't want to media involved. They wanted to hang this doctor for --truly, doing the right thing -- which was not following IDSA guidelines.

Big brother is a lot more powerful than many of us want to believe.

If you haven't yet, please watch Under Our Skin. It's a terrific documentary, and you will be introduced to heros in the Lyme world... Doctors who are known by name, because they got "caught" treating people effectively for chronic Lyme.

The documentary is free on hulu, or it's also on Netflix.

I hope this helps you out. It's a huge deal for these docs to put their careers and livelihood on the line to treat us properly, and therefore we protect them by keeping them anonymous.

Have a great evening.

Was diagnosed with Autonomic Disorder, POTS, Interstitial Cystitis, and Fibromyalgia. True story is I have late stage Lyme which has caused these things. Just began the fight in October 2011 (have been full-blown Lyme since Sept. 5, 2010), and WILL be victorious! Positive bands: IgG 41 and 60; IgM 23 and 41. CDC positive!

Not a doctor, not anyone of any legal standing... just someone on the search.
(Translation: Please do not take anything I say as medical advice. Always see your doctor when needing medical advice.)
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01/25/2012 09:35 PM  Top
Bettyg
 
Posts: 26706
VIP Member
I'm an Advocate

frank,

lauren, above summed it up well telling you what happendd to her own llmd JUST in the last 2 months! thanks lauren.

also go to LLMD REQUEST FORUM at top; read about dr. charles ray jones, kids no. 1 llmd in usa. 6 yrs. of being in court system trying to KEEP HIS MEDICAL LICENSE costing him/US PATIENTS/COMMUNITY $100,000/MONTH FOR 6 YRS!

he's lost everythign; age 81; came out of retirement to treat over 17,000+ kids since he retired!

Code:

 unless a llmd has HAD CHARGES FILES BY THEIR STATE HEALTH  DEPT,  their names are NOT SHOWN ON PUBLIC BOARD for the reasons above.

bettyg, llmd coordinator/leader

BettyG, IOWA ACTIVIST
RETIRED llmd coordinator of 6 yrs; group leader

NOTE: I DO "NOT" USE CHAT thanks!
**************************************

NO INFORMATION SHOULD BE CONSIDERED MEDICAL ADVICE.
please see my WELCOME LETTER/BEGINNER'S LINKS with important links/info galore :)

http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support-forums/general-support/2356916-bettygs-welcome-letter-wgood-beginner-links-

Any information provided should not be used to take the place of advice from your personal physician or other professional.

Information on those sites is the opinion of those who publish the sites and is NOT necessarily that of BettyG.

43 yrs. chronic lyme; 35 yrs. misdiagnosed by 40-50 drs. unacceptable; see my profile for more.
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01/26/2012 09:46 AM  Top
frankjay
Posts: 12
New Member

Thanks for the insight betty and WisclamLymie..I appreciate all the help I get here

Frank

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01/26/2012 01:08 PM  Top
Bettyg
 
Posts: 26706
VIP Member
I'm an Advocate

frank, it was a legitimate question that needed to be answered for other NEWCOMERS not knowing the LYME/CO-INFECTION WAR between our ilads aka lyme literate mds, llmds

and idsa, infectious disease drs. treating 4 wks. MAX AND YOU ARE CURED BS!

i'm going to lock this frank so other leaders know you were given answers to your question ok Wink

WE'RE SHORT HANDED and my llmd list isn't available to me yet!

bettyg, llmd coordinator/iowa activist

Post edited by: Bettyg, at: 01/26/2012 01:09 PM

BettyG, IOWA ACTIVIST
RETIRED llmd coordinator of 6 yrs; group leader

NOTE: I DO "NOT" USE CHAT thanks!
**************************************

NO INFORMATION SHOULD BE CONSIDERED MEDICAL ADVICE.
please see my WELCOME LETTER/BEGINNER'S LINKS with important links/info galore :)

http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support-forums/general-support/2356916-bettygs-welcome-letter-wgood-beginner-links-

Any information provided should not be used to take the place of advice from your personal physician or other professional.

Information on those sites is the opinion of those who publish the sites and is NOT necessarily that of BettyG.

43 yrs. chronic lyme; 35 yrs. misdiagnosed by 40-50 drs. unacceptable; see my profile for more.
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