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03/24/2008 07:44
melian775
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Hi guys!

I'm not sure where else to go. I have been researching everywhere and unfortunately live in a state that doesn't see much of this disease, FL. While attending high school in NJ, where I grew up, I was diagnosed with Lyme disease at the age of 16. I had all of the usual symtoms, stiff neck, sore joints, headaches etc. After being treated with antibiotics I was fine for quite a long time. Almost three years ago I became pregnant and had twins in 05. Since then I feel I have been feeling many of those symptoms again, only this time, I also have stiffness in my hands and feet too. I read somewhere that Lyme can be reactivated by pregnancy? Does anyone know if this is true? Just attempting to find a reason for all of this! Thanks for any help you may have...hope you all are having a good day!

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03/24/2008 09:10
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Hi first of all congrats on your twins. You are a busy Mom and it's no fun when you're sick. I know because I have three of them and I have been sick the whole time (until this year). I do believe that pregnancy is a shock to the immune system and can activate old viral and bacterial infections. That's what happened to me. My symptoms increased with each pregnancy. I've had Lyme since about 1991 (didn't know it). My symptoms were mild and gradual. I'm guessing I had a strong immune system and was able to hold it bay. However, like I said, my symptoms became worse with each successive pregnancy. I was finally correctly diagnosed in March of 2007 and sought alternative treatment.by an MD in the South. I was fed up with conventional docs. They just covered up my symptoms with prescriptions which I call band-aids. The alternative treatment worked for me. This will be the first pain free year I get to spend with my kids. They are 10,8 and 4.

So, yes, I believe pregnancy can trigger reactivation of Lyme. My personal experience validates your suspicion. However, the good news is that you can beat Lyme. Jaime will PM you with a list of LLMDs if you are interested. It sounds like you may have a fight on your hands again. No pun intended. If you're interested in how I got better, I can PM some details to you. Good luck and put your boxing gloves on.

Please do not take anything I say as medical advice. I am not a doctor

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03/24/2008 09:33
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03/24/2008 10:04
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I go to the same doc as Lymie - he has mentioned wanting to be a little more 'private' about it. We don't want our doctor to be taken away! He's amazing! But, we are happy to share that info with you guys privately. And, he's not too far from North Florida - Mellan775 - where in Florida are you?

I agree bisja - we should be able to post those things! All of a sudden we were getting posts from people that had 'blank' profiles asking for info - it was kind of weird. Probably not anything 'shady' but no one wants to send up a red flag for the person helping them. This Lyme is a mess!

And, I do know a person that was well and free of symptoms for seven years - she started training for a marathon and started two companies. The stress of it all brought her Lyme back so she had to undergo an expensive treatment all over again in Reno. I have heard from others that pregnancy brought their symptoms back too.

I think we have to treat Lyme like cancer that is in remission. Have to stay healthy and try to deal with stress the best way possible so we can keep our bodies strong. Pregnancy is not easy to 'control' --- I think that would be the toughest. Best of luck to you! I have not had children so I can't even imagine how you guys do it!!!

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03/24/2008 11:12
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Hi

I agree with everyone's posts--Lyme can either be cured for some or in remission for others and return with various stressors. as someone with 3 also ( almost grown) and who spent the better part of raising them with various levels of infirmity--I know how hard it is!

I also agree with comments about disclosing Drs names-

both the ones saying we "should" be able to post names of LLMds openly and those explaining why we dont

May I suggest that we ASK each of our Drs what THEY wish?? IF the individual doesnt care then its ok to post their names.Most wont want that from my experience.

Ive found it strange that many who "brag" about being a Lyme health care professional ( like CNHP or some ND's) and fish around websites looking for people to sell things to, are the very ones we need to be careful with as they may not have the experience or training needed for good health advice. The very "good" ones - LLMDs and real certified NDs and others do try to keep a low profile due to the aggravating politics.

Id love for the climate to be such that we can all discuss the LLMDs and other info openly--unfortunately for now its not the case.

As for the insurance question that seems to come up especially for newbies. Why they dont take it or file it--LLMDs and some labs (like Igenex) dont take insurance and ask that you file for reimbursement on your own for one main reason--they arent paid. Its even a fight when we as the policy holders ask for payment back!! Insurance companies are there to take in as much money and give back out the least possible!!And the Lyme dx has become a pariah.Too much office time would be spent fighting the insurance denials and appeals-

many of my Drs have been harassed with the amount of documentation and paperwork and phone calls!!

recently I was denied coverage for a DR (neuro--one of only 2 such super specialists in the entire state--so I had little choice to begin with) they sent me to as being in network--theyre excuse for denial?? the Drs office was in a hospital that was OUT of netowrk. So I call and say what difference where the office is, and that is his only office anyway. And that they sent me there to begin with. well it took 2 supervisors and calls from the employer's manager and the broker just to get them to resubmit!!Not to mention the over a dozen calls and emails/faxes from the Drs office too!!

anything to avoid paying!!esp. if the dx = Lyme!!

As we all need info about every possible treatment protocol, often mixing and matching to find one that works for us, I too would love to hear more about Lymie's methods!!! There could be something in there I havent yet tried for Evan!!

Itd be also helpful if we knew how long Lymie had TBD's, which coinfections she suspects, sx and her progress--how long before each sx abated.And the flow/order of tx ( which tried first and second etc)- This way we can see if it may help us the same way!! and also which things would be better for us to try based on our own sx experiences!

thanks Lymie!!! and Melian-- hang in it will get better!!!

Finette

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03/24/2008 11:14
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03/24/2008 12:02
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Amen to that one....


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