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06/21/2012 04:03 PM
lulu888
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Hi - many of the symptoms of lyme are also symptoms of mold. Has anyone explore the lyme vs. mold scenario. If so, could you share your experience about how you were diagnosed and what has worked, not worked, etc. I only have 1 band that was positive on my bloodwork - 41 and 3 to 4 other bands that were IND. All the co-infections came back negative. I've been on abx for about a month and almost 2 weeks but I can't say I feel much improvement. At first, all my symptoms point to lyme but not so sure anymore. My vision scares me the most - light sensitivity, lots of floaters, little chasing lights when I look at something bright - like the sky, after images. I have seen 3 different eye doctors and they didn't note anything serious. I also have buzzing in the ear, which doesn't go away; sometimes joint pain in toes and fingers; crackling neck; numbness and tingling occasionally (this seems to have gotten better); tremors - my hands shake - occasionally; anxiety; depression; easily agitated; twitches every once in a while; mood swings; shortness of breath; sometimes it feels like something is moving under the skin - bubbling like feeling; cognitive abilities have decreased - memory, concentration, focus.

Would appreciate any input.

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06/22/2012 09:20 AM  Top
melissa333
 
Posts: 492
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I tested positive for Lyme and notice a difference with antibiotics.

I also lived in a moldy home around the time I got sick. I did an EMRI mold test and found out and moved.

Sometimes its a double-whammy! You really have to test for both, and sometimes treat for both.


06/22/2012 11:02 AM  Top
RavenLunatic
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Posts: 2597
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Here is a link that talks about the effect of Biotoxins (esp. mold) pertaining to LD & Co....

The biggest takeaway for me from the weekend was one that I had already known, but it is also one that I cannot reinforce enough how strongly I feel about it. In my opinion based on what I have learned from Dr. Shoemaker's work, everyone with Lyme should have their HLA genetic testing done so that they understand if it is Lyme toxins, mold toxins, or both that they are inefficient in identifying and excreting. This information may change the course of your treatment.

Additionally, if one is a mold-susceptible type, I think it is critical to have the ERMI testing done to see if your living environment is save. If one has a mold-susceptible type, an ERMI of < 2 is the goal. Anything higher than that is potentially unsafe and negatively impacting your health.

Ignoring the mold issue while treating Lyme disease is, in my opinion, much like trying to keep a boat filling up with water from sinking by using a cup to dump the water overboard when the boat itself has several holes in the bottom. You just can't win unless we evaluate and address all of the factors involved in our ill-health. Mold is often a very critical and overlooked factor.

http://betterhealthguy.com/joomla/blog/251-biotoxin-illness- conference-2011

"My Disabling, Chronic Illness Is More Real Than Your Imaginary, Medical Expertise!!!"

06/23/2012 12:54 AM  Top
Bettyg
 
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lulu, please EDIT your entire post; we can't read long solid block text like you posted.

plese use my posting guidelines below for NEURO lyme folks so we cam read/comprehend it all, then we can assist you. thank you.

bettyg, iowa actiist

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Welcome to MD JUNCTION! I'm so glad you found us! You’ve come to the right place for education and support!

Private messages DELETED in 30 days!

ARCHIVE, upper right!

My WELCOME LETTER is posted at the top of SUPPORT FORUM in sticky pin full of good info and HYPERLINKS ready to be read.

http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support- forums/general-support/2356916-bettygs-welcome-letter-wgood- beginner-links-

The most important things are at the top; MUST READ and print off as mentioned there already to start your lyme/co-infection journey with us all.

The 1st things to do are:

• JOIN LYME BOARD;

• Post in LLMD REQUEST FORUM for a LYME LITERATE md; see my welcome letter and the INSTRUCTIONS there if you are SPECIALLY FROM CALIF. Where it’s broken down into 8 NAMED AREAS.

• You’ll need to give me my calif. NAMED area where you live in the areas shown there in SUBJECT LINE plus if it’s for ADULT or a child; we need age of CHILD; some llmds have AGE restrictions.

• OTHER STATES will show the SPECIFIC NAME OF THEIR STATE and Qclosest, largest city to them in SUBJECT line plus adult or child; UNDER 21; we need their age!.

http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support- forums/llmd-info/Itemid=217/func=post/do=reply

• Also, we’ll need the following info in your request post:

in your llmd request, please EDIT and add more info ok.

Are you UNDER AGE 21;; if yes, I need your age shown as some of our llmds have AGE RESTRICTIONS; thanks!

how long you've been sick

if you've tested for lyme/co-infections;

which labs doing work for which specific test, etc.

did you have western blot igm/igg done by igenex?

if yes, what were the POSITIVE & INDETERMINDED numbers; NOT negatives.

thanks for understanding; just EDIT your post. you can find all by going to left MY DISCUSSIONS, click on it.

after you add more, a LEADER will send you names ok.

I RECENTLY RETIRED AFTER 6 LONG YRS. OF DOING THIS!

Betty’s suggested posting guidelines:

NO ALL CAPS POSTS; they are illegible to me/other neuro folks!

Many of members have neuro lyme, and it is hard to read long solid block text and be able to comprehend; example, me, 42 yrs. neuro chronic lyme, so we are UNABLE to comprehend and read. Thank you for helping us help YOU 

Please post in short paragraphs like you see below or look at a few other posts, but we neuro folks need them short.

1-2 sentences MAX per paragraph and hit ENTER TWICE to double space between each paragraph. We’ve lost our comprehension skills to read solid block text.

We neuros lose our train of thought if the sentence is broken up in the middle; so please keep an ENTIRE sentence together as ONE. hugs

For easier reading, please edit your post. You can break up your longer paragraphs into smaller paragraphs. Please hit

ENTER key twice after each paragraph.

Go to left hand corner; click edit send. Then go to bottom and click SUBSCRIBE TO THIS DISCUSSION.

Thank you for posting in a manner that makes it easier for all to read and help others.

Bettyg, Iowa activist FOREVER Wink

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YES, be prepared to PAY UPFRONT!

i've heard of some requiring down payments; i wasn't aware of that one at all!!

very FEW accept insurance; why?

insurance co. allow 7 min. per patient; we can hardly say hello in that time!

you also have to follow INSURANCE'S GUIDELINES ON TREATMENTS, IDSA/infectious disease drs. socieity guidelines... BAD NEWS FOR US!

by NOT accepting insurance, they can practice ILADS/intl. lyme and associated disease lyme guidelines ... treating you longer than 4 wks. of antibiotics, herbals, and alternative therapeis.

they allow 30-60 min. appt; longer 1st time; you pay accordinatelly for those appts.

ACCEPTING INSURANCE; they get very little $$ to pay the staff/overhead of building/utilities, etc.

many call patients day before to make sure they will be there; MANY DO NOT SHOW UP NOR HAVE THE DECENCY TO CALL SAYING THEY ARE NOT COMING!!

they could get those close by to come in but NOT being called; they are OUT THE MONEY and having one hell of a time meeting the bills.

our LLMDS are NOT RICH by any means!!

i hope this answers your questions so you understand what THEY are going thru too.

hugs/prayers,

bettyg, Iowa activist forever

RETIRED llmd coordinator for 6 yrs working directly with these drs/former group leader

BettyG, IOWA ACTIVIST
RETIRED llmd coordinator of 6 yrs; group leader

NOTE: I DO "NOT" USE CHAT thanks!
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NO INFORMATION SHOULD BE CONSIDERED MEDICAL ADVICE.
please see my WELCOME LETTER/BEGINNER'S LINKS with important links/info galore :)

http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support-forums/general-support/2356916-bettygs-welcome-letter-wgood-beginner-links-

Any information provided should not be used to take the place of advice from your personal physician or other professional.

Information on those sites is the opinion of those who publish the sites and is NOT necessarily that of BettyG.

43 yrs. chronic lyme; 35 yrs. misdiagnosed by 40-50 drs. unacceptable; see my profile for more.
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