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04/29/2012 12:03 PM
tizmo
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precious007, there is s a difference between just a pathetic yeast infection and a systemic yeast infection. Do your research. 50-75% of people with systemic yeast infections die. So YEAH I am being serious about it!!!
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04/29/2012 12:30 PM  Top
suzyoo
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Tizmo, How do you know when you have systemic yeast?

04/29/2012 01:30 PM  Top
runner64
 
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Interesting information Gofigure, from Columbia University's Lyme and Tick Borne Disease Research Center. With the mice, Bb may persist with antibiotic therapy.

That's the second reference I've seen with a similar conclusion but only using doxy. I just found this one last week.

http://www.townsendletter.com/July2010/sapi0710.html

Very complex this is.

Tizmo's right. Is a systemic yeast infection typically signaling something else like chronic illness going on Tizmo?

Or can it be caused with say poor diet, so one becomes sick from systemic yeast with no other chronic illness causing it? I'm curious.

Chronically ill getting systemic yeast infection as many know, this is why I ask between the 2. Aids patients, Lyme people like us etc. Systemic yeast can get really serious.

Post edited by: runner64, at: 04/29/2012 01:42 PM

First year Mar 2012-2013 on 6 plant abx only.Second year had to add pharma abx in conjunction.Physical brain/head/eye symptomatic too severe and excrutiating "just coping with the physicality feeling infection in cns thru brain, and brain overprocessing with no sleep daily" rendering me non functional since Oct 2010. Can't read a book, follow programs properly, stutter talking due to the "physical feeling and interference in head." Stuttering less with more coming down since pharma abx added.

It's slowly helping. I dry sauna every other day/colonics daily.Very strict diet.

Sida Acuta-babs/bart*Houttunyia-bart*Stephania-lyme/bart*Andrographis-lyme*Cat's Claw-lyme*Japanese Knotweed*lyme/bart*Artminisin-babs*Serrapeptese-biofilm* GSE-Cysts*

Sporadic severe hits of acute pain in body/joints/bone pain & face/head/brain/bone & nerve pain 95% healed/gone from plant abx only. 5% that is left is rare and not severe only in right forearm bone and around left extra orbital eyebone.Body flutters less.Chronic acute head/eyeball pressure gone from plant abx in first year from plant abx only.Ammonia feel inside head mostly gone from plant abx only.Visual distortion gone from plant abx only.BUT,brain/head/eyeballs still BAD/chronic/acute which is why I started pharma abx in conjunction because this is still severe & won't come down enough>>>Infection/brain encephalitis (brain inflammation somewhat less now) feel inside head,wooshing,rage/brain overstimulation and over processing thoughts too fast,chronic. NON cortisol related, it's simply pathogen load causing overstimulation. Still cope daily with brain physicality and non functional. Hard head hit. Debilitating insomnia.

Added Bart/Lyme pharma abx = Apr 13 zithromax in conjunction with my 6 plant abx & May 2 added rifampin. (I dose very aggressively in tsp of my homemade tincture plus drink tea decoctions of my plants and herx daily on both plant and pharma abx. No normal baseline yet but coming.)

04/29/2012 04:31 PM  Top
tizmo
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suzyoo, basically if you start treating the yeast and you herx bad or see improvement, then you know it's systemic yeast. I tried a lot of things for lyme and until the yeast is gone the lyme treatments won't work. If your using Byron White Formulas that also is a good tester.

I reacted more strongly to the A-FNG (for fungus/yeast) than I did with the A-L Complex (for lyme). Also if you have Biofeedback testing done it will tell you which infection is worst. It showed my yeast was much worse than lyme but the lyme is still definitely an issue as well but needs to be addressed after the yeast.


04/29/2012 05:34 PM  Top
suzyoo
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Hi Tizmo, Thanks for the feedback. Yes, I've been doing A-L since late Oct. My LLMD muscle test me for candida, metals, lyme, and other things every time I see him. I tested highest for metals, but have lowered them by using Zeolite.

A-L has herbs that work on anti-fungal too. So, yes I did herx from the drops just after the first drop. I got up to nine drops twice a day, then I had to drop back down to four drops twice a day, because I was having way too many bad symptoms.

I've been working on the yeast issues since last May, and I have made some improvement thru muscle testing, but I would like to try other ways of testing for it. For instance bioresonance.

It looks like you're on the right track, because unless you can get you yeast down, the abx just make things worse. Wishing you well. Suzy


05/02/2012 03:42 PM  Top
pampe
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I started working on yeast yesterday.....ugh.

I am sure you are correct about needing to work on that first

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06/08/2012 06:13 AM  Top
gofigure
 
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The famous Lyme microbiologist Dr. Holly Ahern has done research that questions whether Doxicycline is the best antibiotic to treat Lyme. I know this flies in the fact of conventional treatment....but her findings are that Doxi tends to drive the spirochetes deeper into the body and into the brain....which may account why so many on antibiotics end up with neurological damage.

Stephen W. Leslie

Author of Healed From Chronic Lyme

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