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01/03/2012 06:00 PM
agnesqr
Posts: 10
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Hi everyone,

I was diagnosed with Lyme almost 2 months ago. Since then I've been taking Amoxicillin 875mg + vitamins and homeopathic.

I have a 10 month old son Patrick.

Last Summer my husband, myself and the baby traveled to Europe to visit the family. While over there, Patrick was bitten by a tick. I removed it as soon as I saw it.

He didn't have a rash or the bulls eye. After we got back to US we decided to have Patrick tested for Lyme just in case.

So his Pediatrician ordered standard test for Lyme which came out negative. That was in September.

In the middle of November I went to the doctor because I was very tired all the time and it didn't feel normal to me. He ordered detailed blood work and after 10 days he broke the bad news - I was positive for Lyme.

Now, I don't recall ever being bitten by the tick, so I have no idea how long I've had it. First I thought, hey, it could have happened this past Summer when we were oversees, hiking in the woods.

But after almost 2 months of antibiotics, and no success I started to go back in my medical history and trying to remember if I ever got very sick.

Yes. There was one time which I will never forget, maybe 11 years ago, when I was so sick I was crying from pain in every inch of my body. I don't remember, but I was treated for cold or flu or something very common.

And I got better after maybe a week or so. If that was the time when I got the Lyme Disease, that would mean that I had it when I was pregnant with Patrick.

This scares the hell out of me. I called couple of Lyme literate doctors in the area and unfortunately I wasn't able to make an appointment because they are either not accepting new patients or having 6 months waiting lists.

I contacted Patricks Pediatrician and he offered Ingenex or Neuroscience test for Patrick, so we are going this Thursday. He will also change my medication.

Can anyone let me know if this is the best I can do for right now?

I just wanted to make sure I'm not missing something important. Is there anyone who is, or was in similar situation?

Please, let me know how did your treatment go.

And is there anything else that we should be doing?

Thank you ,

Agnes.

i broke up entire solid block length post; emphasized, bettyg, leader

Post edited by: Bettyg, at: 01/04/2012 12:45 AM

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01/03/2012 06:09 PM  Top
Weasy
Weasy
 
Posts: 943
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Agnesqr.. Welcome to the group!

You definitely know what needs to be done and that's commendable.

Is Patrick exhibiting weird symptoms?

Most of the people who have Lyme Disease never even recall seeing a tick or a bulls eye rash. You can also receive Lyme Disease through other insect bites, not just ticks.

You're doing the right thing by getting Patrick tested again but keep an eye on him for odd behavior or health issues.

How do you feel? Your test apparently came back positive for Lyme Disease. Are these positive test results an explanation for unusual symptoms you may have been experiencing?

tiredoflyme.com
Lyme Disease Support & Consolation

Treatment: Buhner Protocol
Initiated: 08/15/2012

01/03/2012 06:42 PM  Top
agnesqr
Posts: 10
New Member

Weasy,

Thank you for your reply.

Yes, I've been feeling extremely tired for last couple of months. I can't concentrate, and for last couple of days I've been a lot worse.

I'm dizzy, feel nausea, today was the worst day so far.

I decided not to drive, so my son and myself can stay safe.

Patrick seems fine. He is growing as he should.

When he was born he was in NICU for 7 days and was treated for possible Meningitis ( I am wondering now if that has anything to do with my Lyme).

He doesn't want to crawl, but everyone keep telling me that's normal. He didn't start to " talk" (baba, dada, etc) till a week ago, but again, that's suppose to be normal.

He's been a little cranky lately, but I hope it's just teething that bothers him.

Maybe my exhaustion makes him upset as well. I'm sure he can feel it even though I'm trying my best to stay normal and energetic.

I can't wait to have his test results back so I can relax a little (hopefully).

What is the best treatment for chronic Lyme?

Is there a specific medication that I should ask the doctor about on Thursday?

Thanks!

broke up solid block text; emphasized, bettyg, leader

Post edited by: Bettyg, at: 01/04/2012 12:49 AM


01/03/2012 06:53 PM  Top
Weasy
Weasy
 
Posts: 943
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No problem!

Well, based on your symptoms, we know that you need to get to an LLMD or an ND that specializes in Lyme Disease.

As far as patrick, being that he is still so young, he isn't able to convey how he is feeling so test results are his voice but even they aren't entirely accurate.

The thing with Lyme Disease is that test results can continue to come back negative despite one having full blown Lyme Disease

The tests used are antibody tests. They test the antibody response to the presence of the bacteria. The test don't actually test for the bacteria itself.

Since the bacteria is capable of hiding from the immune system very well, antibodies may no be created, thus yielding negative test results.

I would highly recommend having patrick see an LLMD as well because though test results would help his cause, they're not entirely accurate. He would need someone who knows Lyme Disease to fully verify that he doesn't have Lyme Disease, ya know?

Every doctor treats differently and what works for one may not work for another. The most popular conventional antibiotic is Doxycycline.

There are holistic protocols too and people also take the initiative to treat themselves backed by their own research

It really comes down to your personal preference.

tiredoflyme.com
Lyme Disease Support & Consolation

Treatment: Buhner Protocol
Initiated: 08/15/2012

01/03/2012 07:00 PM  Top
neska
 
Posts: 1461
Senior Member

hi! i have a great LLMD. great because he was my third doctor i went to.

from my experience with doctors and lyme, i would ask him his treatment plan with you and your son. it is a known fact that you must treat two months past any of your symptoms, that includes fatique.

i was tested for Epstein Barr Virsus because one i was soooooo tired all the time.

i am on ceftin for lyme and an antiviral for the EBV.

my doctor that i am currently with is not only treating my lyme but all the herxes that come with the die offs.

your doctor should be making you very comfortable as possible while having lyme disease.

my first doctor never explained to me that i would herx and how difficult that would be. he DID give me his personal phone number.

so when i had my first herx i realized this was the reason he gave me his phone number.

i am really sorry to hear about patrick. just way to young to have problems.

as i have been here with this support group, i am seeing children really not having great problems with lyme.

i think one of the reason is they have not been exposed to alot of virses, bacterias, etc. as we adults have thru our lifetime.

talk to your doctor about herxes. what he thinks you should do about them.

we drink alot of lemon water and take lots of epson salt baths.

my doctor has me on OTC allegra for herxes.

i am sure others will also come in and give more suggestions.

happy to know you are seeing a LLMD! but so very sorry to hear both of you have it.

we all just absolutely hate this disease!

Post edited by: neska, at: 01/03/2012 07:02 PM


01/04/2012 01:15 AM  Top
Bettyg
 
Posts: 26579
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I'm an Advocate

hi agnes,

IMPORTANT! if you're going with IGENEX blood lab; WED. AM IS THE DEADLINE FOR GETTIGN IT TO CALIF SO IT DOESN'T STAY IN POST OFFICE OVER WEEKEND WHERE THE BLOOD GOES BAD!!

WHAT STATE ARE YOU IN? igenex has in calif/ and in CONN!

in my welcome letter link, i have extensive info there on igenex and what is needed.

coming back again! i feel igenex would be better than neuroscience; it's a NEW lab; haven't heard that much about it.

no lab testing or tick testing are 100% accurate; the symptoms list i'm referring you to below is the most accurate for CLINICAL DIAGNOSIS of kids/adults.

***********************************

so much to be tell you; my brief welcome is below; please break up your text using my guidelines at the bottom ok; we neuros can't read/comprehend as is. i broke up both of your above posts; see what i did ok; big thanks!

YES, MENINGITIS is related to lyme for your newborn son!

yes, more than likely your son was born with CONGENITAL LYME.

below is my WELCOME LETTER LINK, please print off the following for you both ok:

** dr. burrascano's lyme treatment guidelines, 37 pages;

**below that is his DOSAGES/MEDS FOR KIDS/ADULTS ... babies are discussed in there

** go down to LYME FACTS, DR. CORSON'S KID'S EVALUATION applies to adults except meds/dosages are different. she explains the entire body and which DISEASES affect those body parts. by the time you get done reading it, you'll know what you have.

i believe she discusses babies/toddlers too; if NOT, using my welcome letter, go to the link on SYMPTOMS; there are specific ones listed for babies/toddlers by my friend, GENEAL compiled them.

in same letter, print off the 1st visit to llmd.

also, please post in LLMD REQUEST FORUM; that link is below the line here.

you didn't state what state you are in. i/other leaders here have my nationwide/intl. llmd list. we know of the MAJORITY of them per state.

i may have missed some things. thank you for the DETAILED medical history on yourself/son.

after you read the SYMPTOMS shown in geneal's compilation, you'll know what to look for in patrick's behavior, etc.

hugs/prayers for you both. majority of us NEVER see a tick nor have any type of rash; i was that way too 42 yrs. ago; 35 yrs. misdiagnosed!

bettyg, llmd coordinator/leader

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Welcome to MD JUNCTION! I'm so glad you found us! You’ve come to the right place for education and support!

Private messages DELETED in 30 days!

ARCHIVE, upper right!

My WELCOME LETTER is posted at the top of SUPPORT FORUM in sticky pin full of good info and HYPERLINKS ready to be read.

http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support- forums/general-support/2356916-bettygs-welcome-letter-wgood- beginner-links-

The most important things are at the top; MUST READ and print off as mentioned there already to start your lyme/co-infection journey with us all.

The 1st things to do are:

• JOIN LYME BOARD;

• Post in LLMD REQUEST FORUM for a LYME LITERATE md; see my welcome letter and the INSTRUCTIONS there if you are SPECIALLY FROM CALIF. Where it’s broken down into 8 NAMED AREAS.

• You’ll need to give me my calif. NAMED area where you live in the areas shown there in SUBJECT LINE plus if it’s for ADULT or a child; we need age of CHILD; some llmds have AGE restrictions.

• OTHER STATES will show the SPECIFIC NAME OF THEIR STATE and closest, largest city to them in SUBJECT line plus adult or child; UNDER 21; we need their age!.

http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support- forums/llmd-info/Itemid=217/func=post/do=reply

• Also, I’ll need the following info in your request post:

in your llmd request, please EDIT and add more info ok.

Are you UNDER AGE 21;; if yes, I need your age shown as some of our llmds have AGE RESTRICTIONS; thanks!

how long you've been sick

if you've tested for lyme/co-infections;

which labs doing work for which specific test, etc.

did you have western blot igm/igg done by igenex?

if yes, what were the POSITIVE & INDETERMINDED numbers; NOT negatives.

thanks for understanding; just EDIT your post. you can find all by going to left MY DISCUSSIONS, click on it.

after you add more, i'll send you names ok.

just send me a PRIVATE MESSAGE left side, giving me the direct link to come to here, and i'll send you the names ok big thanks.

Betty’s suggested posting guidelines:

Many of members have neuro lyme, and it is hard to read long solid block text and be able to comprehend; example, me, 42 yrs. neuro chronic lyme, so we are UNABLE to comprehend and read. Thank you for helping us help YOU Wink

please post in short paragraphs like you see below or look at a few other posts, but we neuro folks need them short.

1-2 sentences MAX per paragraph and hit ENTER TWICE to doublespace between each paragraph. We’ve lost our comprehension skills to read solid block text.

we neuros lose our train of thought if the sentence is broken up in the middle; so please keep an ENTIRE sentence together as ONE. hugs

For easier reading, please edit your post. You can break up your longer paragraphs into smaller paragraphs. Please hit ENTER key twice after each paragraph.

Go to left hand corner; click edit send. Then go to bottom and click SUBSCRIBE TO THIS DISCUSSION.

Thank you for posting in a manner that makes it easier for all to read and help others.

bettyg, llmd coordinator/group leader/iowa activist

Post edited by: Bettyg, at: 01/04/2012 01:18 AM

Post edited by: Bettyg, at: 01/04/2012 01:21 AM

BettyG, IOWA ACTIVIST
RETIRED llmd coordinator of 6 yrs; group leader

NOTE: I DO "NOT" USE CHAT thanks!
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NO INFORMATION SHOULD BE CONSIDERED MEDICAL ADVICE.
please see my WELCOME LETTER/BEGINNER'S LINKS with important links/info galore :)

http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support-forums/general-support/2356916-bettygs-welcome-letter-wgood-beginner-links-

Any information provided should not be used to take the place of advice from your personal physician or other professional.

Information on those sites is the opinion of those who publish the sites and is NOT necessarily that of BettyG.

43 yrs. chronic lyme; 35 yrs. misdiagnosed by 40-50 drs. unacceptable; see my profile for more.

01/04/2012 05:20 PM  Top
agnesqr
Posts: 10
New Member

Thank you guys for all the information and support. I feel much better already Smile . We are going to PCP tomorrow and we'll see what he has to say.

We are from Leesburg, VA. I'm 34 and my baby is 10 months old.

Have a great night everyone !!!

Agnes.

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