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12/10/2011 10:28 AM
Thankful
 
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I wanted to share my lyme disease story for several reasons:

(1) to sugggest to people who suffer chronic unexplained symptoms with another potential option to investigate; (2) seek feedback on successful treatments for lyme disease; and

3) open a discussion of support for those individuals who seek to participate in sharing ups and downs of this path.

I am from the east coast but since relocated to the midwest. My symptom journey started 6 years ago almost to the day, a year after leaving the east coast. I do not recall ever seeing a tick or having a rash.

My initial symptoms at the age of 29 included facial tingling, muscle tension and twitches, brain fog, inability to focus, inability to sleep, anxiety/jitters, loss of appetite/digestive problems (probably b/c of the anxiety), and general inflamed/sick feeling.

It devastated me at the time because it interfered with my ambitious agenda and because it was plain scary. I did not know where to turn. I was diagnosed with a virus based on the symptoms and told to wait it out by my PCP at that time.

I do not recall being tested for lyme disease at the time but was tested for pretty much everything else, including a diagnostic brain MRI. Everything looked fine.

I swtiched doctors and started to work with a medical doctor who practices intergrative medicine. She did not think to pursue the lyme disease test at the time -- my symptoms were no longer as severe and she thought that whatever devasteted me for three months prior threw off my system so she focused on rebuilding me through acupuncture and supplements.

At the same time I also worked with a chiropractor and nutritionist to alleviate the muscle aches and to make sure that my system was properly supported. It took months but I felt that my body was on the mend with occasional, mild flare ups.

I was convinced that I had early stages of an auto-immune disorder but there was not enough evidence to support that. So I focused on what I was able to control: diet, exercise (yoga and running), guided physician's support. The steps I was taking were working very well for me.

Within 7 months after the onset of symptoms I felt and was well enough to become pregnant. I was also back to finishing my graduate degree. I continued to have flare ups from time to time but as long as I ate well, did my yoga, slept enough, and kept the more instense stress away, I was able to sustain a great quality of life.

I had a very normal pregnancy. Everything went great except I crashed after the delivery. I went into what was attributed to mild post-partum depression with some other symptoms (muscle pain).

Within 6 months I felt better again and continued on for 4 years feeling mostly very well, happy and healthy with occasional "flare ups" that I attributed to being a working mom. I even ran two half-marathons in the last couple of years and exercised regularly.

Feeling good, however, made me take it all for granted so I allowed myself to subject myself to very intense professional pressures. Things boiled over again in July of this year. After 6 years since the onset of the first symtpoms, they started up again.

This time it started with high anxiety and panic attacks. I went back to my doctor. We tested my neurotransmitter funciton and found that my adrenal function was diminished, providing an explanation for the anxiety. The question remained, what was causing the chemical disaray?

Three weeks ago we decided to test for lyme disease. We submitted my samples to a traditional lab and to Neuro Science (NS) labs for analysis.

NS utilizes a much more comprehensive test and arrives at a recommendation based on cummulative analysis in consideration of the criteria set for the diagnosis of the disease by the Center for Disease Control.

The traditional lab gave me an overall negative for lyme disease based on the test they employ, albeit one band was reactive. A more comprehensive analysis by NS found that I have an "early" or "waning" stage of the disease and that by CDC standards I am positive.

I learned this just 5 days ago and words cannot explain the feeling of finally having an answer after 6 years -- obviously mixed -- excited and relieved to finally understand but apprehensive about what that means for the future.

I have been very fortunate that I was able to get my symptoms under control and functioned happily for many years without reoccurence of symptoms except in instances of extreme fatigue or stress.

Since the return of the symptoms in July I have worked with my doctor to address the adrenal havoc presumably brought about by the the Lyme.

We have done so through dietary supplements. Also, much like I have heard expressed by other folks on this forum, my system is very sensitive to certain foods; I have never eaten much of processed food but during a flare up, my body has no tolerance for it at all.

I cook everything from scratch and snack on nuts, fruits and granola. Ironically my habits have reverted back to very healthy ones as compared to those that quickly develop in the daily race absent the body telling you that you need to re-evaluate.

As for treatment, my doctor is recommending a dose of antibiotics and feels confident that we can knock this out.

What I hope to do by sharing this story in such detail is to bring hope to individuals who find themselves with or without a diagnosis (but have lyme suspicions) and share what alternative ways to manage symptoms have worked for me.

I am not sure yet what the outcome of the treatment will be. I feel thankful for understanding a reason for my symptoms which have plagued me on and off for 6 years.

I would be grateful to hear from anyone who has had treatment and your experience with it. I would also be happy to share more detail about the various therapies and lifestyle changes that have helped me keep a very high quality of life (albeit with some bumps in the road).

I look forward to any comments/discussions. Thank you for reading my thesis. Smile

Post edited by: Thankful, at: 12/16/2011 05:44 AM

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12/10/2011 03:21 PM  Top
smarte1
smarte1
 
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I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU WENT/ARE GOING THROUGH!

I was diagnosed after seven years just a few months ago. I'm on two separate antibiotics and antiviral medications along with many other supplements and pro-biotics (20 pills a day!!). My main focus now is my health, however it's hard to keep busy throughout the day without getting exhausted. All I want to do is lay in bed. Have you found anything that keeps you going? I'm going to try journaling..

S. Martello

12/11/2011 04:16 AM  Top
Bettyg
 
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Welcome to MD JUNCTION! I'm so glad you found us! You’ve come to the right place for education and support!

Private messages DELETED in 30 days!

ARCHIVE, upper right!

My WELCOME LETTER is posted at the top of SUPPORT FORUM in sticky pin full of good info and HYPERLINKS ready to be read.

http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support- forums/general-support/2356916-bettygs-welcome-letter-wgood- beginner-links-

The most important things are at the top; MUST READ and print off as mentioned there already to start your lyme/co-infection journey with us all.

The 1st things to do are:

• JOIN LYME BOARD;

• Post in LLMD REQUEST FORUM for a LYME LITERATE md; see my welcome letter and the INSTRUCTIONS there if you are SPECIALLY FROM CALIF. Where it’s broken down into 8 NAMED AREAS.

• You’ll need to give me my calif. NAMED area where you live in the areas shown there in SUBJECT LINE plus if it’s for ADULT or a child; we need age of CHILD; some llmds have AGE restrictions.

• OTHER STATES will show the SPECIFIC NAME OF THEIR STATE and closest, largest city to them in SUBJECT line plus adult or child; UNDER 21; we need their age!.

http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support- forums/llmd-info/Itemid=217/func=post/do=reply

• Also, I’ll need the following info in your request post:

in your llmd request, please EDIT and add more info ok.

Are you UNDER AGE 21;; if yes, I need your age shown as some of our llmds have AGE RESTRICTIONS; thanks!

how long you've been sick

if you've tested for lyme/co-infections;

which labs doing work for which specific test, etc.

did you have western blot igm/igg done by igenex?

if yes, what were the POSITIVE & INDETERMINDED numbers; NOT negatives.

thanks for understanding; just EDIT your post. you can find all by going to left MY DISCUSSIONS, click on it.

after you add more, i'll send you names ok.

just send me a PRIVATE MESSAGE left side, giving me the direct link to come to here, and i'll send you the names ok big thanks.

Betty’s suggested posting guidelines:

Many of members have neuro lyme, and it is hard to read long solid block text and be able to comprehend; example, me, 42 yrs. neuro chronic lyme, so we are UNABLE to comprehend and read. Thank you for helping us help YOU Wink

please post in short paragraphs like you see below or look at a few other posts, but we neuro folks need them short.

1-2 sentences MAX per paragraph and hit ENTER TWICE to doublespace between each paragraph. We’ve lost our comprehension skills to read solid block text.

we neuros lose our train of thought if the sentence is broken up in the middle; so please keep an ENTIRE sentence together as ONE. hugs

For easier reading, please edit your post. You can break up your longer paragraphs into smaller paragraphs. Please hit ENTER key twice after each paragraph.

Go to left hand corner; click edit send. Then go to bottom and click SUBSCRIBE TO THIS DISCUSSION.

Thank you for posting in a manner that makes it easier for all to read and help others.

bettyg, llmd coordinator/group leader/iowa activist

hi there Wink please EDIT your entire post using my guideliens above so we neuro lyme folks like me, 42 yrs, will be able to comprehend/read it.

thanks for helping us help YOU Wink

BettyG, IOWA ACTIVIST
RETIRED llmd coordinator of 6 yrs; group leader

NOTE: I DO "NOT" USE CHAT thanks!
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NO INFORMATION SHOULD BE CONSIDERED MEDICAL ADVICE.
please see my WELCOME LETTER/BEGINNER'S LINKS with important links/info galore :)

http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support-forums/general-support/2356916-bettygs-welcome-letter-wgood-beginner-links-

Any information provided should not be used to take the place of advice from your personal physician or other professional.

Information on those sites is the opinion of those who publish the sites and is NOT necessarily that of BettyG.

43 yrs. chronic lyme; 35 yrs. misdiagnosed by 40-50 drs. unacceptable; see my profile for more.

12/11/2011 08:21 AM  Top
irenwill
irenwill
 
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Welcome thankful and smarte1. Glad that you both found us!

Eating a clean diet, keeping stress to a minimum, and supportive therapy, including exercise definitely help in dealing with Lyme. They all support your immune system and help the body keep the infection in control.

Unfortunately, Lyme is progressive - as the infection grows and multiplies within the body, the chance of it overcoming your immune system also grow. When that happens, the symptoms progress and get worse.

I am glad you are getting treatment. Please know that a short course of antibiotics will not do the job, though.

I recommend requesting an LLMD in the thread for those requests, so that you can get the care you need.

I am not a doctor, just a patient striving for recovery and hoping to offer support to others, too! Many blessings to you!

Any information offered is just sharing my experience and friendly advice, NOT a prescription. You should use your own judgment and discretion when making health care decisions.

12/16/2011 04:35 PM  Top
Bettyg
 
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thankful,

thanks for breaking up your entire post so we ALL could read it; very detailed.

mayi suggest you COPY/PASTE it to MY PROFILE, UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER so it will be available to read later on by us when we help you on future questions you bring up to us since you just got your dianosis.

yes, please post in llmd request forum.

show ... adult and state you live in subject line please.

what were the positive numbers on your lyme testing; don't think i saw that above.

then copy/paste your direct link for this post to your NEW LLMD REQUET FORUM link.

thanks, bettyg, llmd coordinator/leader

BettyG, IOWA ACTIVIST
RETIRED llmd coordinator of 6 yrs; group leader

NOTE: I DO "NOT" USE CHAT thanks!
**************************************

NO INFORMATION SHOULD BE CONSIDERED MEDICAL ADVICE.
please see my WELCOME LETTER/BEGINNER'S LINKS with important links/info galore :)

http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support-forums/general-support/2356916-bettygs-welcome-letter-wgood-beginner-links-

Any information provided should not be used to take the place of advice from your personal physician or other professional.

Information on those sites is the opinion of those who publish the sites and is NOT necessarily that of BettyG.

43 yrs. chronic lyme; 35 yrs. misdiagnosed by 40-50 drs. unacceptable; see my profile for more.

12/16/2011 07:09 PM  Top
waxby
waxbyPosts: 4129
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~~~Hello Thankful, Welcome!

~~~~Re your "As for treatment, my doctor is recommending a dose of antibiotics and feels confident that we can knock this out." ~ This statement alone clues me in that your Dr is not a LLDr, Lyme Literate Dr.

~~~If you do not find a LLDr who follows the ILADS' Guidelines, http://www.ilads.org/files/ILADS_Guidelines.pdf , and NOT the CDC or the IDSA, and treats you for at least two months past NO symptoms before even considering stopping treatment yet, even if this takes several years, you will continue being ill for six and six and six more years.

``` ~~~from my straight jacket~~~out on a limb~~~lookin like a cocoon~~~hangin by a thread~~~waitin for a butterfly~~~under the moon~~~Lovey Dovey~~~Mitchell ```

Post edited by: waxby, at: 12/16/2011 07:25 PM

Post edited by: Bettyg, at: 12/17/2011 02:40 AM

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12/17/2011 06:23 AM  Top
Thankful
 
Posts: 5
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Hello Waxby! Thank you so much for your reply. Last week your comment would have upset me as it is nice to believe overly optimistic prognosis.

You are right about my doc -- she is not a LL doc. However, I have since read the ILADS treatment guidelines cover-to-cover 3 times which propmpted me to seek out an LLMD.

To give my doctor credit, she is the first one who didn't think I was losing my mind and kept working to get at the root of the cause of adrenal imbalances, infertility, brain fog and all other related nonsense.

Also important about my current doctor is that she listens. I think her approach is more -- let's go with the basic recommendation and then start working out if we have to keep going.

She is optimistic but perhaps I was more optimistic in what I heard Smile-- so, I am now prepared to remain on treatment for a lot longer than initially thought. Be it with this doc or the LLMD (going to see her in mid January while continuing my treatment now).

Thank you again for tuning into my story and I hope that you are on the mend.

Best wishes!!


12/17/2011 03:32 PM  Top
Jensen16
 
Posts: 747
Member

Thankful,

Did you also have your child tested for Lyme disease?

it sounded like you thought you may have gotten infected, but not treated until after you had your child...?

What??

12/18/2011 06:21 AM  Top
Thankful
 
Posts: 5
New Member

Jensen 16, thank you for your post. I have an appointment for her with an LLMD as well. Covering all aspects I hope. Thanks again!Smile

12/18/2011 06:22 PM  Top
workingal
workingal
 
Posts: 94
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Thankful~

I was just diagnosed several months ago. Everyone on this site is awesome and so helpful!

I swear I don't think I would have gotten as far as I have already without their support.

I complain all the time and everyone still listens and responds. Smile

I am on my second type of Abx now. On the first ones I went through three herx severe reactions.

After about a month some of my symptoms started to disappear.

Ex: Blurred vision, back pain, knee pain, gastro problems, food allergies, sinus problems, itchy skin.

I have started doxy about a month ago and everyday I wake up I feel like someone beat me with a baseball bat.

I don't think the doxy is strong enough for me. All of my pain came back plus more but my anxiety has improved.

I just started taking readisorb glutathione and it seems to be helping with my pain, and L-Serine which seems to be helping my tremors.

I also have to stay away from gluten, but I think everyone with lyme has a problem with it.

Hope you feel better soon. We all know what you are going through.

This is the only place I could find where everyone can relate to everything you are going through and I am so greatful!

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