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11/25/2011 10:03 PM
skreename123
skreename123
 
Posts: 5
New Member

Over the Past year and a half I had been diagnosed with Lyme disease and was reported as a Lyme case by my Doctor. He said in 3 weeks of treatment on Doxy that I would be ok. Well, I had started feeling very tired and started seeing floaters and having a lot of joint pain and back pain and some other very strange symptoms as well as feeling out of it. I went back to the doctor and he said my Lyme test came up negative and my lyme was cured, but he put me on abx just in case for another 3 weeks. After the three weeks I felt way better all around. Now, about 3 months later I am feeling worse than I have ever felt and have headaches almost every morning in the back of my head/neck. I feel twice as bad as when I first had lyme symptoms almost two years ago. I told my mom and she said the doctor would know and doesn't think it's the Lyme. All my other blood tests came up normal and I am very healthy and active. I have a lot of telltale lyme symptoms so I believe it is the only culprit. I talked about seeing an LLMD in New hampshire and my mom thinks its a scam because they don't accept insurance. I cant help but feel that it might be a little bit of a scam since its 300-500 for a visit. Yet Many of you have said the LLMD helped so much. I am stuck and don't know what to do. Have any of you been scammed by a lyme literate doctor? Or am I really Cured and might have another problem? Any advise would help please.
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11/25/2011 11:17 PM  Top
equestrian06
 
Posts: 381
Member

Your regular MD most likely WOULDNT know wether it were Lyme or not. CDC even states Lyme is a clinical diagnosis, NOT a serological diagnosis (though it can be both).

In my experience, the only way Lyme is clear to a typical MD is if it appears as a bright red, very clear bullseye. And not otherwise. Maybe by luck if the patient demands an ELISA/WB... and also happens to be struck by lightning when the tests come back clearly positive. x-)

Im sure there are people that claim to be LLMD... and Im sure there are scams out there. Find someone well-recommended and very reputable. Spend your money there.

I have no idea where Id be know without long-term antibiotic treatment... but I wasnt headed anywhere good when I had three consecutive MDs trying to tell me it was all in my head and I was "just stressed out". My muscles didnt REALLY hurt, that was my "imagination". My daily migraine was just from "stress, thats all". I had newly developed panic attacks, also out of "stress".

And the 15lb of water I gained through edema? Oh, that was a combination of "stress, eating too much and not exercising enough" (A dr told me this... I was in the middle of getting ready for BODYBUILDING SHOW... dropping fat and going to the gym a minimum of 5 days a week. Tracking every crumb that went into my mouth and keeping the trend for continuing weight drop)


11/25/2011 11:27 PM  Top
RavenLunatic
RavenLunatic
 
Posts: 2596
Group Leader

The fact that you tested Pos. for LD, did better on ABX (2x's) & both times you got off them, you started to feel worse..... I'd say, go to an LLMD!!!

LLMD's don't just treat LD. They treat numerous Co-infections that are assc. w/ LD. Did your non-LLMD check for any Co-infections or latent viruses? Probably not.... =0{

You have to do what you feel is best. IMHO, If not an LLMD, at least natural/holistic practitioner.

If you are still having symptoms & don't seek help, you will only get worse over time. Please don't allow yourself to end up like many of us here on this forum. Many of us are too sick to get to appts, work or take care of our families, let alone our own selves.

What amount of $ you will pay to see an LLMD, is nothing compared to what you will shell out in the long run if you do not seek help now. Sorry... just being honest.

"My Disabling, Chronic Illness Is More Real Than Your Imaginary, Medical Expertise!!!"

11/26/2011 12:34 AM  Top
Bettyg
 
Posts: 26547
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123, i sent you mass llmd names last july; have you looked into them yet? times a wasting for you. Sad

bettyg, leader/llmd coordinator

please EDIT and break up your post using my guidelines below; just copying/pasting to save me valuable time here; we neuros can't read any of it, and we'd like to help you Wink

Welcome to MD JUNCTION! I'm so glad you found us! You’ve come to the right place for education and support!

Private messages DELETED in 30 days!

ARCHIVE, upper right!

My WELCOME LETTER is posted at the top of SUPPORT FORUM in sticky pin full of good info and HYPERLINKS ready to be read.

http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support- forums/general-support/2356916-bettygs-welcome-letter-wgood- beginner-links-

The most important things are at the top; MUST READ and print off as mentioned there already to start your lyme/co-infection journey with us all.

The 1st things to do are:

• JOIN LYME BOARD;

• Post in LLMD REQUEST FORUM for a LYME LITERATE md; see my welcome letter and the INSTRUCTIONS there if you are SPECIALLY FROM CALIF. Where it’s broken down into 8 NAMED AREAS.

• You’ll need to give me my calif. NAMED area where you live in the areas shown there in SUBJECT LINE plus if it’s for ADULT or a child; we need age of CHILD; some llmds have AGE restrictions.

• OTHER STATES will show the SPECIFIC NAME OF THEIR STATE and closest, largest city to them in SUBJECT line plus adult or child; UNDER 21; we need their age!.

http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support- forums/llmd-info/Itemid=217/func=post/do=reply

• Also, I’ll need the following info in your request post:

in your llmd request, please EDIT and add more info ok.

Are you UNDER AGE 21;; if yes, I need your age shown as some of our llmds have AGE RESTRICTIONS; thanks!

how long you've been sick

if you've tested for lyme/co-infections;

which labs doing work for which specific test, etc.

did you have western blot igm/igg done by igenex?

if yes, what were the POSITIVE & INDETERMINDED numbers; NOT negatives.

thanks for understanding; just EDIT your post. you can find all by going to left MY DISCUSSIONS, click on it.

after you add more, i'll send you names ok.

just send me a PRIVATE MESSAGE left side, giving me the direct link to come to here, and i'll send you the names ok big thanks.

Betty’s suggested posting guidelines:

Many of members have neuro lyme, and it is hard to read long solid block text and be able to comprehend; example, me, 42 yrs. neuro chronic lyme, so we are UNABLE to comprehend and read. Thank you for helping us help YOU Wink

please post in short paragraphs like you see below or look at a few other posts, but we neuro folks need them short.

1-2 sentences MAX per paragraph and hit ENTER TWICE to doublespace between each paragraph. We’ve lost our comprehension skills to read solid block text.

we neuros lose our train of thought if the sentence is broken up in the middle; so please keep an ENTIRE sentence together as ONE. hugs

For easier reading, please edit your post. You can break up your longer paragraphs into smaller paragraphs. Please hit ENTER key twice after each paragraph.

Go to left hand corner; click edit send. Then go to bottom and click SUBSCRIBE TO THIS DISCUSSION.

Thank you for posting in a manner that makes it easier for all to read and help others.

bettyg, llmd coordinator/group leader/iowa activist

BettyG, IOWA ACTIVIST
RETIRED llmd coordinator of 6 yrs; group leader

NOTE: I DO "NOT" USE CHAT thanks!
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Information on those sites is the opinion of those who publish the sites and is NOT necessarily that of BettyG.

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11/26/2011 04:58 AM  Top
VicMac
VicMac
 
Posts: 1648
Senior Member

Skreen, Welcome!

I have come to the conclusion that to have Lyme and co. and seeing any doc who is NOT an LLMD, is choosing to take a much harder road, one that is likely to result in disaster.

If you dont see an LLMD, then it seems the only other route is to try is "naturals". And this takes a bit of studying up on what is effective for what. There are a lot of knowledgeable people here on this board.

If you dont know for sure what coinfections you have, then you have to do some of your own clinical diagnosing based on symptoms, to get some idea what to treat yourself with.

But there are also plenty of natural broad spectrum antimicrobials available to take that attack alot of things at once, and can be helpful.

Shorelinelyme, Fabajenna, Waxby, Walktheline are several people on here who have alot of knowledge in this area.

Basically, until recently, this "natural" route is the one I had been using for almost 18 years, not even knowing what coinfections I have. The naturals have really helped me, but not cured me.

I have finally realized I need to try seeing an LLMD. Here is the thing Skreen, whether you spend the money on an LLMD, or the high price of natural protocols, you will spend some money!

There just seems to be no way to avoid it, if you want to get well or see any improvement. I havent seen anyone on here yet who seems to have avoided this.

If they have, I would sure like to know about it!

I hurt for you and your dilema, because I know how confusing it can be and weighty.

I really hope all the best for you! You can find relief again!

I wish I had solutions for everybody here who is suffering, but I am still hunting for them myself and seem to be more of a student on this board than a teacher. All I have to offer is my experience, support, and prayers based on what I have learned in my recovery. I am not a physician.

11/26/2011 05:42 AM  Top
imaxfli
Posts: 21
New Member

Did you have rash and know when u contacted Disease, or did u have CHRONIC..if chronic have to treat much longer and then still might not cure!

Previous discussions I participated in:
Symptoms back...
Lyme and white-coated tongue...

11/26/2011 06:04 AM  Top
waxby
waxbyPosts: 4121
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~~~Hello skree,

~~~Re your "Over the Past year and a half I had been diagnosed with Lyme disease and was reported as a Lyme case by my Doctor. He said in 3 weeks of treatment on Doxy that I would be ok.

~ "I went back to the doctor and he said my Lyme test came up negative and my lyme was cured, but he put me on abx just in case for another 3 weeks. After the three weeks I felt way better all around. Now, about 3 months later I am feeling worse than I have ever felt and have headaches almost every morning in the back of my head/neck. I feel twice as bad as when I first had lyme symptoms almost two years ago.

~ "I told my mom and she said the doctor would know and doesn't think it's the Lyme. All my other blood tests came up normal and I am very healthy and active. I have a lot of telltale lyme symptoms so I believe it is the only culprit. I talked about seeing an LLMD in New hampshire and my mom thinks its a scam because they don't accept insurance. I cant help but feel that it might be a little bit of a scam since its 300-500 for a visit."

~~~These are some of THE classic examples and reasons to get away from this properly informed uninformed Dr on this potentially dangerous and life threatening Lume Complex Disease, and YES, do seek out a LLDr!

``` ~~~from my straight jacket~~~out on a limb~~~lookin like a cocoon~~~hangin by a thread~~~waitin for a butterfly~~~under the moon~~~Lovey Dovey~~~Mitchell ```

~~ "The way to 'Heaven' is to bring it with you ..." -Mitchell
~~ "Sometimes, we gotta go through hell to get to 'Heaven'" -Mitchell
~~ "The way out is in" -Mitchell
~~ "A miracle speaks ...'I don't believe in Miracles.' " -Mitchell
~~ "Life is good, even when it isn't." -Mitchell
~~ "Sometimes you gotta lose to win." -Mitchell
~~ "It's easy when it's easy! Find reason, purpose and meaning when it's hard!" -Mitchell
~~ "If you're gonna think, think again!" -Mitchell
~~ "Make it so!" ...
~~ “When life do what it do, as it do-do, simply say ‘Of Course!’ (to soften life’s ‘blows’)” - Mitchell
~~ A master once said, "When embarking on the spiritual path, 'Oh Dear! There's no turning back! You've really done it now!' "
~~ “Not thoughts be your guide, rather, guide your thoughts.” -Mitchell
~~ "That which is within, and that energy entering this body/mind/spirit, causing harm and ill health, must and will be transformed into love healing energy and sent out in every direction" -Mitchell
~~ One morning ten years ago I awoke from a dream chanting over again and again, and writing this down so as not to forget ... "It doesn't matter who did what, there's nowhere else to go but up ..." -Mitchell
~~ "This life, our life, and what we do with it on this planet is “simply” a display, a reflection, of what is going on in our consciousness. The proof is in the puddin’. Look at our planet, what humans are doing to it, and with it, and to one another, and ask yourself ... ~ 'How’s this working for us/me?' ” -Mitchell
~~ "Step away from monkey mind, not tangle ... Observe ... Inhabit your higher self ..." -Mitchell
~~ "Anything is possible, but manythings you think are true, are not ... " -Mitchell
~~ "Grow where you are planted ..." -Mitchell
~~ "Change your future now ..." -Mitchell
~~ “Write your equation … 4 u r the sum of u … “ -Mitchell
~~ “We are largely a product of our environments … how’s your inner environment doing? …” -Mitchell

11/26/2011 06:07 AM  Top
waxby
waxbyPosts: 4121
VIP Member

~~~And skree,

~~~Hello Newbies ...

~~~Lyme cannot be treated as a lone entity.

~~~Lyme Disease can be, and often is, a very serious, chronic persistent, potentially dangerous and life threatening, COMPLEX disease, and so, Lyme Complex Disease, or LCD, most often with any number of co-infections, such as Babesia, Bartonella, Erlichia, and many more, that must be treated before Bb, Borrelia burgdorferi, or Lyme, one by one, or simultaneously.

~~~LCD knocks your whole body/mind/spirit out of sight. You need to rebalance, and rehabilitate your whole being!

~~~It IS important to realize that each of our needs, and symptoms, are unique and require our careful and discerning, educated, well read, attention.

~~~And there is no magic cure or magic DR or magic clinic. And there are a lot of "snake oils" and "snake oil salesmen" out there, so be cautious!

~~~Some find relief or remission from conventional/pharmaceuticals alone or naturals/alternatives such as herbs etc alone or a combination of any.

~~~AND, relief or remission from ONLY long term treatment, even years, in MOST IF NOT ALL chronic persistent cases. That is, if not caught immediately and treated with at least three months of antibiotics, and not necessarily for longer ONLY if symptoms are not present after the first month and through the second two months of treatment!

~~~We each have our own combination lock, code, puzzle, conundrum, or mystery to figure out.

~~~Here is another of the main issues with Lyme Dis-ease...

~~~If you do not see a Lyme Literate Dr. (LLDr), and your tests APPEAR “negative,” (or positive), they may treat you for whatever symptoms that your symptomology SEEMS to fit.

~~~Also, by not seeing a LLDr, a non-LLDr will normally follow the IDSA’s guidelines, rather than the ILADS’ guidelines, http://www.ilads.org/files/ILADS_Guidelines.pdf , or a LL, Lyme Literate/ILADS/IGeneX Lyme Disease test, and so may declare you negative of Lyme Disease based on false standards of detection, including not basing your diagnosis of LCD on symptomology and pathology, even with a “negative” Lyme test.

~~~And in most cases, if you are or are not being treated for the actual culprit, LCD, the phantom treatments for mocking symptoms will do almost nothing or nothing at all or even cause more problems.

~~~Incorrect treatments can even do damage, such as being treated for MS, which Lyme mocks, with steroids, or any other drug designed to suppress the immune system, etc, that will only intensify the Lyme invasion and wreak additional havoc inside of you and on your life.

~~~Some have even been prescribed surgery, by a non-LLDr for a Lyme mocking "phantom" problem and the surgery, in many or most cases, failed.

~~~Lyme dis-ease can mock 300 dis-eases and exhibit hundreds of symptoms!

~~~However it remains important to carefully rule out other possible problems.

~~~But, let an LLDr do this to save you many middle steps.

~~~If you are working with, WORKING WITH (as in not blindly following) a Dr, hopefully a LLDr, Lyme Literate Dr, OR only with yourself as your healer, if you so choose for your own reasons, pay careful attention to your reactions to each potential remedy.

~~~If the reactions are much too intense, and you are monitoring and comparing them to possible allergic response and …

~~~having carefully ruled out adverse allergic response, as many reactions are the "herx", the Jarisch/Herxheimer reaction to therapies that actually make you feel worse before better, and are a sign of effective therapy, and may be indicative of probable Lyme Complex Disease …

~~~try trimming down, ramping down, dosages to 1/2 or 1/4, even as much as 1/8 the dosage in some cases, to find your personal, more tolerable, not overly aggressive, therapeutic dosage, and then "ramp-up" slowly and carefully.

~~~And always take probiotics between doses of antibiotics, two hours before and after dosing are a good rule-of-thumb. ANTI-biotics kill unfriendly as well as friendly bacteria and so the intestinal flora must be re-constituted with the friendly PRO-biotics.

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~~~There is a general consensus to get a superior diet in order.

~~~That is, no junk. Everyone with any sense whatsoever knows what that is.

~~~This means no sugary sodas or even diet ones or any carbonated dead beverages. Pure junk!

~~~No processed sugar either. No empty calories!

~~~Only nutritiously dense foods in a wide variety of the rainbow such as fresh mixed sprouts, purple and green cabbage and mixed greens salads, mixed berries, etc.

~~~Mostly if not all vegetarian.

http://www.secrets-of-longevity-in-humans.com/vegetarian- protein-sources.html

http://www.vegparadise.com/protein.html

http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.htm

http://makingpages.org/health/myths.html

http://sugarrocket.com/vegan/vegan-myths.php

~~~Mostly if not all raw - fresh unheated fruits and vegetables are raw.

~~~Little to no dairy.

~~~Cut out gluten, wheat, rye, oats, and bran, if you happen to be gluten intolerant, as many Lyme Patients are.

~~~Eat whole grains and brown and wild rice blends, quinoa, amaranth, buckwheat, etc.

~~~Raw nuts and seeds, raw, so as not to destroy living enzymes and essential fatty acids, such as raw walnuts, almonds, pumpkin and sunflower seeds.

~~~Beans, such as kidney, black, and garbanzos.

~~~Cooled down teas to warm (under 110 degrees) with some almond milk and a couple of ice cubes etc (not hot, so as not to destroy living enzymes in raw honey and raw choc if added.) You should be able to hold your finger in it and just feel the warmth, not hot...

~~~Green tea, red (rooibos) tea etc, almond milk, etc, raw honey, raw cocoa powder. Yum!

~~~You could vigorously stir into the warm mix a Tablespoonful or two of some organic chia seed (from health food store, and drink it through a straw, unless you want a chia pet mustache!) and/or freshly ground flax seed.

~~~You could also vigorously stir in some brown rice protein powder (from "NutriBiotic") and brewer’s yeast (from "Lewis Labs" - no this is not the yeast that contributes to yeast growth problems, and is very nutritious and a tasty brand), and also some raw maca powder.

~~~I make a mixture in equal amounts of brown rice protein powder, raw maca powder, and brewer’s yeast and use a couple of tablespoons of this mixture in my breakfast tea.

~~~I also include in my breakfast tea my own brewed chai mixture, in descending order of decreasing amounts, of cinnamon, ginger, cardamom, nutmeg, turmeric, cloves, and black pepper. Google each of these spices to learn of their benefits. Mix a big batch and keep it in an airtight jar in the fridge.

~~~Stir one or two teaspoons of this mixture into a cup of cool water and bring to a boil and stir and pour into tea mug and let steep and settle for about five minutes. Pour slowly and gently into another mug leaving the settled “mud” at the bottom of the cup behind to discard.

~~~Plenty of water, between meals, some with freshly squeezed lemon, for detoxifying, one simple, of many methods critical for consistently, persistently, clearing toxic load from our bodies.

~~~A good rule of thumb for quantity of water to drink is to divide your body weight number in pounds in half, and use that number for number of ounces of water to drink each day.

~~~Go to a health food store and get a sprouting kit and make your own mixed sprouts at home in your kitchen.

~~~Try 2 Tablespoons of broccoli, 2T fenugreek, 10T(5oz) mung bean sprouting seeds in a half gallon sprouting jar.

~~~In three to five days, depending on the temperature, Winter or Summer, and poof, nutritiously dense food.

~~~Don't rinse on last day to keep on dry side to keep longer in fridge. They'll keep for a week in the fridge in an airtight container. Leave uncovered overnight in fridge the first night to chill and breath out initial condensate and then cover and leave covered.

~~~Start a new batch some days before they run out to keep a constant supply for sandwiches, salads, etc. Add it to a big mixed greens salad.

~~~Omega 3 fatty acids and fiber rich seeds such as chia (whole or ground) and freshly ground flax-freshly ground flax as the omegas become unstable after some time after being ground, and flax is indigestible whole. Unheated so as not to destroy vital omega fatty acids and living enzymes.

~~~I use 2 tablespoonsful of whole organic flax seed and grind it fresh in a coffee grinder each time I use it. I stir this vigorously into 16 ounces or more of tepid water and soak for five minutes to absorb water and expand and then drink this through a straw 30 minutes before meals.

~~~I continue to drink more water in between meals away from food for better digestion and elimination.

~~~Drinking liquids with meals only dilutes your food not allowing it to digest more properly.

~~~Drinking this flax/water mixture gives digestive/elimination system a jump start ahead of meals in order to capture more bile and transport it out of the body, so the bile is not recycled back into your body, as is what happens to the bile, thus ushering the bile's excess cholesterol and toxic load out of the body. Your body will readily produce more fresh unpolluted bile.

~~~Flax (as well as chia) also contains essential omega 3s and 6s in a healthy proportion of 3 times more 3s than 6s. Most diets contain way too many 6s than 3s.

~~~Corn oil has 46 x more 6s than 3s, very bad. Olive oil has a ratio of 3-6s to 13-3s, very good. We tend to get way more 6s than 3s, not good.

~~~Your body will convert these essential fatty acids into necessary DHA and EPA.

~~~Organic everything as much as possible.

~~~No harmful habits such as smoking etc, or alcohol, which is very bad for many Lyme patients.

~~~As examples, out of hundreds of potential remedies, I have done MMS, and in alternating days, frequencies, amounts, and combinations,

~~~teasel, samento, venus fly trap, banderol,

~~~smilax, Japanese knotweed/resveratrol, andrographis, ("Buhner's Herbs from his book "Healing Lyme.")

~~~Dandelion and parsley extracts, mangosteen extract, olive leaf extract, grapefruit seed extract, bromelain, systemic enzymes, nattokinase, or better, lumbrokinase, Graviola, Sangre de Drago, Jatoba (these three are South American rainforest herbs)

~~~vits, mins, supps, baking soda, superior diet.

~~~And for about a year 100mg a day or every 2nd, 3rd, or 4th day, week, or month of minocycline.

~~~However, for now, I am only doing the MMS and at one to three drops one to three times a day, even skipping a day or more as I am very ill and for many years, as I think I am doing too much too soon for my level of infection.

~~~And now doing HBOT, Hyperbaric Oxygen Treatment, IM Rocephin, Myers' Cocktail IV, Medical/pharmaceutical grade supps, vits. coloidal silver.

~~~However, (update) now …

~~~I am doing every day MMS, Minocycline, Azithromycin, and Rifampin. Rocephin IM, (breaking), Atomidine (hoping to replace Armour Thyroid), HBOT (hyperbaric oxygen treatments, 85 dives and taking a break), Myers Cocktail IV plus glutathione (vits, mins, + glutathione) twice a week, (taking a break), Byron White's A-Bart and A-L pulsing and ramping up very slowly starting with 1/16 of a drop each twice weekly, Samento, Banderol, Teasel Root, vitamins, minerals and supplements ... pondering the seen and un-seen …

~~~Your symptoms will change, come and go, see-saw, roller coaster, scare you, tickle you, nauseate you, turn you shapes, colors, and sizes, make you laugh, make you cry.

~~~Hold tight! This is some Amusement Park!

~~~This forum is your refuge. We "get" you. USE IT!

~~~And remember, "this is a marathon and not a sprint." Be the turtle, not the hare. Moving too quickly could be potentially harmful.

~~~Chronic, persistent Lyme Dis-ease can take a very long time to diminish towards remission. It must be approached carefully, systematically, persistently, patiently...

~~~And ... Never give up!

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~~~On ramping and pulsing...

~~~When a remedy dose hits too unbearably hard, your dose may be too high, and that is after making certain this is not an allergic reaction.

~~~Take a day or two or three off , if you must, until the "Herx" calms down to a reasonably, more tolerable manageable, level, and begin again, every other day, or more, if you must, thus pulsing...

~~~Begin again at a lower more tolerable dose, if necessary, such as 1/2, 1/4, or 1/8 the dose thus ramping down.

~~~If one more dose hits too hard again, take every other or third day off, pulsing, until you arrive at a more tolerable Herx event level and tolerable therapeutic dosing level.

~~~As your Herx effect lessens over time, begin turning up the volume by adding back some dosage level, ramping up, and then closing the pulsing gaps.

~~~And always take PRO-biotics between doses of ANTI-biotics to re-constitute intestinal flora as ANTI-biotics destroy both bad and good bacteria. Take pro-biotics, breaking open the capsule, if acid resistant strain and not in an enteric coating, starting in your mouth, the beginning of your digestive system, 2 hours before and after dosing, after anti-biotics have cleared the stomach and intestines, are a good rule-of-thumb.

~~~Unfortunately, feeling worse before feeling better, the Herx, is par for the course, but is a useful gauge for pulsing and ramping and consistently, persistently, keeping fire under the critters butts.

```~~~from my straight jacket~~~out on a limb~~~lookin like a cocoon~~~hangin by a thread~~~waitin for a butterfly~~~under the moon~~~Lovey-Dovey, Mitchell~~~

~~ "The way to 'Heaven' is to bring it with you ..." -Mitchell
~~ "Sometimes, we gotta go through hell to get to 'Heaven'" -Mitchell
~~ "The way out is in" -Mitchell
~~ "A miracle speaks ...'I don't believe in Miracles.' " -Mitchell
~~ "Life is good, even when it isn't." -Mitchell
~~ "Sometimes you gotta lose to win." -Mitchell
~~ "It's easy when it's easy! Find reason, purpose and meaning when it's hard!" -Mitchell
~~ "If you're gonna think, think again!" -Mitchell
~~ "Make it so!" ...
~~ “When life do what it do, as it do-do, simply say ‘Of Course!’ (to soften life’s ‘blows’)” - Mitchell
~~ A master once said, "When embarking on the spiritual path, 'Oh Dear! There's no turning back! You've really done it now!' "
~~ “Not thoughts be your guide, rather, guide your thoughts.” -Mitchell
~~ "That which is within, and that energy entering this body/mind/spirit, causing harm and ill health, must and will be transformed into love healing energy and sent out in every direction" -Mitchell
~~ One morning ten years ago I awoke from a dream chanting over again and again, and writing this down so as not to forget ... "It doesn't matter who did what, there's nowhere else to go but up ..." -Mitchell
~~ "This life, our life, and what we do with it on this planet is “simply” a display, a reflection, of what is going on in our consciousness. The proof is in the puddin’. Look at our planet, what humans are doing to it, and with it, and to one another, and ask yourself ... ~ 'How’s this working for us/me?' ” -Mitchell
~~ "Step away from monkey mind, not tangle ... Observe ... Inhabit your higher self ..." -Mitchell
~~ "Anything is possible, but manythings you think are true, are not ... " -Mitchell
~~ "Grow where you are planted ..." -Mitchell
~~ "Change your future now ..." -Mitchell
~~ “Write your equation … 4 u r the sum of u … “ -Mitchell
~~ “We are largely a product of our environments … how’s your inner environment doing? …” -Mitchell
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