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08/13/2011 02:24 PM
PosionIvy
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Today I told one of my neighbors that my son, husband and I all have Lyme. My neighbor had just given me a hug before that and he said, "can you pass it by hugging someone? Should I go in and shower with a scrub brush or something"? I know he didn't mean to be cruel, but this comes after a family member refused to sit at the same table with me in March.

Also, I went to a Mommy and Me group last wrk and when I talked about Lyme you could have heard crickets. Just the 'deer in the headlights' look.

These things are hurtful and I feel so dirty and gross sometimes. I didn't chose for the damn tick, or whatever the he'll it was, to bite me. We really need to educate, fellow Lyme sufferer's.

Anyone else have any similar situations?? Somehow I'm sure I'm not the only one.

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08/13/2011 03:01 PM  Top
firtrees
 
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I haven't had this kind of experience because I'm very selective about who I tell about my illness. The reason I'm so selective is because I'm sure that most people would react the same way as the people you told.

This pandemic of Lyme only seems to be growing. As awareness increases I think a general panic of some proportion will eventually happen.

My feeling is that Lyme is likely more contagious than the CDC and mainstream doctors believe. I don't want to panic people or be treated like a leper, so I feel it's best not to disclose my condition to most people.

I also try very hard to protect others by making sure they don't come into contact with my tears, saliva, blood, etc. I don't share drinks with people, and I'm really meticulous about hygiene when I cook for others. My life partner is almost certainly infected also, but we have both had symptoms since before we met, so I don't think she got it from me nor I from her. I've asked her to get tested, but she refuses. Still, I try to protect her as best I can from my bodily fluids.

I'm sorry you were treated in a way that made you feel dirty and gross.


08/13/2011 03:09 PM  Top
equestrian06
 
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My feeling is that Lyme is likely more contagious than the CDC and mainstream doctors believe. I don't want to panic people or be treated like a leper, so I feel it's best not to disclose my condition to most people.

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I agree with this... while I wont avoid anyone... you'd better bet I soak myself in insect spray to try to prevent any biting things from biting me and getting someone else with this crap. I wont drink after anyone else either.

Im insanely hesitant about the idea of kissing someone... even rather scared. Id feel so horrible to give this to anyone, let alone someone I cared about. Im not taking my cat with me from home when I move either... He's staying with my parents where he's been for a year now anyway. I dont want my roomie getting bitten by infected fleas and Im cautious of even living with her if mosquitoes bite me in my sleep and find her next!

UGH, its terrifying.


08/13/2011 03:50 PM  Top
PosionIvy
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Good advice. I will definitely be more selective in the future.
"I'm not a doctor, but I play one in my
real life"!!!

08/13/2011 04:20 PM  Top
rowergirl2010
 
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I am so sorry you were treated this way, but I do agree that Lyme is more contagious than current knowledge tells us.

Lyme acts and behaves like syphillus (not saying we have that or any other STD). Syphillus and Lyme both have spirochete shape and drill into muscles, joints, and other tissue. A spirochete looks like a watch spring stretched out. Both diseases can hide and morph their DNA in order to look like some else to avoid the antibiotics.

They morph because the antibiotic looks for certain RNA (newly produced DNA cells looking for another to connect with). DNA looks like a bike chain but have to connect up with certain proteins each time. RNA is only one side of that bike chain. Meds look for newly produced cells because they are easy to hit! Thus we switch meds a lot and use cyst busters to take apart groups of cells and make them smaller.

It is considerably harder for meds to try to replace certain proteins in an already connected whole chain. There are some meds that are able to separate the two sides of the chain not sure which ones those are for Lyme though.

So in conclusion only a few hundred diseases can rewrite their own DNA with new parts! All create new cells by copying the original cells, not all can rewrite the chain with new parts. So this allows STDs to move from body to body because they can rewrite their chain to fit the new body.

Your post just connected all of this for me. I had not put two and two together yet - brain fog preventing me from connecting new material to prior knowledge. Sorry if this is too technical. Others would say I simplify it too much and marred the process. Oh well this site is meant for the lay person!

P23 and P41 bands positive, IBS like symptoms caused by possible candida, herbal and antiobiotic treatment, gluten free, candida diet.

I do not have a medical license so my suggestions are limited to personal experience and research. Also I am not a lawyer so if I offer advice relating to school issues it is only from my experiences as a special education teacher, my own disabilities real or Lyme induced, and research.

08/13/2011 05:24 PM  Top
jomomma
 
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I know for me I am OCD with the Lyme... I think it's really all I talk about BUT it's the only thing I have been focused on since I found out!

I haven't had any problems with ppl treating me like that, but I do know they are sick of hearing about it!

My grandmother had Lupus and died at 46, my mother has issues that lead me to believe she may have Lyme & my Aunt & I both have it.

My mom gets angry with me if I try to tell her anything about her... but I never thought about avoiding certain situations in as much detail, but I will now!

It makes sense that it could/is spread this easy. I wouldn't want to be looked at like I have the plague but I also understand if ppl get worried, look at the HELL we live with!

I hate to admit it but I would be like that if I knew someone had hiv/aids NOT because I want to hurt anyone but because it scares me! And right fully so with the Lyme too, this crap is scary stuff!

I am sorry too because it must hurt to be treated like that & I am sure at some time we will mostly all go through it to some extent, Glad I foend this place to have ppl who understand!

SiCk & TiReD oF bEiNg SiCk & TiReD!!!!!!!!!! ;)

08/13/2011 07:45 PM  Top
lymeinmich
 
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It is an infectious disease.

My daughter is a nurse, and she was taught that it can be passed by bodily fluids.

I have read here about people having it in their mouths.

My LLMD says that once abx is started it is UNLIKELY to find it in your bodily fluids.

I have had that deer in the headlight look from people too.

It may be that because 3 in your family have it, he thought it was extremely contagious??


08/13/2011 08:07 PM  Top
PosionIvy
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I am learning to keep quiet about this. No matter what I thought, I know I would never say something like that out loud! But it's chalked up to a lesson learned.

Thank you all for the comments!

Hugs...ur, air hugs!

Post edited by: PosionIvy, at: 08/13/2011 08:28 PM

"I'm not a doctor, but I play one in my
real life"!!!

08/13/2011 08:21 PM  Top
rowergirl2010
 
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Just be careful. You can always say your a germaphobe instead when people ask about certain behaviors. Clorox wipes, purell, surgical gloves, a basic first aid kit are good things to have on hand. If people knew this or other diseases they would realize that you can't get it from basic interactions.

Post edited by: rowergirl2010, at: 08/13/2011 08:21 PM

P23 and P41 bands positive, IBS like symptoms caused by possible candida, herbal and antiobiotic treatment, gluten free, candida diet.

I do not have a medical license so my suggestions are limited to personal experience and research. Also I am not a lawyer so if I offer advice relating to school issues it is only from my experiences as a special education teacher, my own disabilities real or Lyme induced, and research.

08/13/2011 08:31 PM  Top
RavenLunatic
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Sadly, I've learned to keep quite about this also. Look at it this way, the LLMDs & LD/co-infection suffers don't even really know enough about it, let alone someone who's not aware of it.

If someone brings it up or if someone I know has symptoms & the Drs. can't figure anything out, then I'll give them info. After that, I've learned to drop it. Sometime people don't want to know the truth.

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