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07/21/2011 06:25 PM
wlkthlne
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regulate...regulate..does A-bart work for you? Sorry can't use that....

If you want to be able to treat your issues natually..

might want to get on the band wagon here....

http://www.anh-usa.org/fda-guidelines-a-perversion-of- congressional-intent/

wlk--Cool

Anything I post or respond to comes from a Lyme and Bart victim himself. I am NOT a doctor. I do my own research for ME...I may share my findings and will post them. They are for general talk and vent...If a group leader feels the info is worth saving somewhere, they are more than welcome to do with it as they like. Wlk=)
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07/21/2011 06:40 PM  Top
rowergirl2010
 
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Government wants a piece of the action in every direction grr! I can even take antibiotics at the moment nevertheless my progress on supplements should be thrown out the window so their buddies can make big bucks?

I also love all of these Lyme grants given in maryland and Virginia to various universities. I went to UVA and was told my test results were false positives - get out of our office! If they aren't treating patients or doing research where is the money going?

P23 and P41 bands positive, IBS like symptoms caused by possible candida, herbal and antiobiotic treatment, gluten free, candida diet.

I do not have a medical license so my suggestions are limited to personal experience and research. Also I am not a lawyer so if I offer advice relating to school issues it is only from my experiences as a special education teacher, my own disabilities real or Lyme induced, and research.

07/21/2011 08:07 PM  Top
singfreebird

Rowergirl- I think the money goes to themselves and their lifestyles. Or purposefully promoting bad science. Glossy pamphlets, misleading studies, etc.

Sorry if I sound bitter, but I'm past the point of believing they are doing these things through ignorance; at least the guys at the top. They know exactly what they are doing, down to only giving out three or so weeks of abx...

They (the government and Big Pharma, because they are in bed together) stand to make a lot of money if people are sick, and have to limit access to things that are able to CURE diseases, not just manage symptoms. If they get every American to take one prescription pill a day (even generic!), think of the revenue!

I don't care if I sound like a conspiracy theorist, or stop this thread dead in its tracks. I'm pissed. We all should be.

All that said, even if this goes through, I'm not completely freaking out. Most likely it will be done on a state-by-state basis, and if not there are always other countries where we can get supplements much cheaper via the mail.

My biggest concern in all of this is creating a black market, which by nature doesn't embrace quality control. I like to know EXACTLY what I am taking, and with a black market there is no guarantees.

Thanks for the link, wlkthlne (Johnny Cash fan? Wink).

Post edited by: singfreebird, at: 07/21/2011 08:09 PM


07/21/2011 11:48 PM  Top
Bettyg
 
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doug, good to see you online!!

http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support- forums/lyme-disease-activism/2878156-s1310sneak-attack-on- supplements-frasen-durbin

LIGHTNING HERE; will try tostay a little longer, if i don't i'm out of here tonight.

bettyg, lyme leader/activist

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07/22/2011 08:54 AM  Top
rowergirl2010
 
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Singfreebird my boyfriend was doing some research before I went to UVA and saw the ID doc. He sent me the link about though now it is long gone. Before my appointment the university was granted millions of dollars to treat and research Lyme. I even brought this up among other pieces of information that didn't match their company line.

They supposably had never heard about the grant and refuted my information.

I agree with you about being bitter and angry. I am not sure where medicine turned into forcing people in submission in order to get treatment or not. I was supplied more meds when I had no idea what I had year after year for almost a decade and then I learn I have this and those pads disappear.

I never got better on those meds and probably contributed a lot to my current state, but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to prescribe something when the previous half dozen haven't worked.

P23 and P41 bands positive, IBS like symptoms caused by possible candida, herbal and antiobiotic treatment, gluten free, candida diet.

I do not have a medical license so my suggestions are limited to personal experience and research. Also I am not a lawyer so if I offer advice relating to school issues it is only from my experiences as a special education teacher, my own disabilities real or Lyme induced, and research.

07/23/2011 12:16 PM  Top
wlkthlne
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A friend who is not a member here..Sent me this! more fuel for the fire!

Or should I say..don't roast the chesnuts by the open fire...or is that walnuts..

Do you think if I plant a walnut tree in my yard...The FDA will tell me to pull it? I will have a sign on it that says....

Don't eat my walnuts..the Omega that's in them is for me......( would love the sign to say a few more things..but I will behave myself here)

Ya gotta see and read this link... LMAO...

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/health-care/8294- walnuts-are-drugs-says-fda

wlk--Cool

Anything I post or respond to comes from a Lyme and Bart victim himself. I am NOT a doctor. I do my own research for ME...I may share my findings and will post them. They are for general talk and vent...If a group leader feels the info is worth saving somewhere, they are more than welcome to do with it as they like. Wlk=)

07/23/2011 01:26 PM  Top
Bettyg
 
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Walnuts Are Drugs, Says FDA

Written by Michael Tennant

Thursday, 21 July 2011 10:10

Seen any walnuts in your medicine cabinet lately?

According to the Food and Drug Administration, that is precisely where you should find them.

Because Diamond Foods made truthful claims about the health benefits of consuming walnuts that the FDA didn’t approve, it sent the company a letter declaring,

“Your walnut products are drugs” — and “new drugs” at that — and, therefore, “they may not legally be marketed … in the United States without an approved new drug application.”

The agency even threatened Diamond with “seizure” if it failed to comply.

Diamond’s transgression was to make “financial investments to educate the public and supply them with walnuts,” as William Faloon of Life Extension magazine put it.

On its website and packaging, the company stated that the omega-3 fatty acids found in walnuts have been shown to have certain health benefits, including reduced risk of heart disease and some types of cancer.

These claims, Faloon notes, are well supported by scientific research:

“Life Extension has published 57 articles that describe the health benefits of walnuts”; and

“The US National Library of Medicine database contains no fewer than 35 peer-reviewed published papers supporting a claim that ingesting walnuts improves vascular health and may reduce heart attack risk.”

This evidence was apparently not good enough for the FDA, which told Diamond that its walnuts were “misbranded” because the “product bears health claims that are not authorized by the FDA.”

The FDA’s letter continues:

“We have determined that your walnut products are promoted for conditions that cause them to be drugs because these products are intended for use in the prevention, mitigation, and treatment of disease.”

Furthermore, the products are also “misbranded” because they “are offered for conditions that are not amenable to self-diagnosis and treatment by individuals who are not medical practitioners;

therefore, adequate directions for use cannot be written so that a layperson can use these drugs safely for their intended purposes.”

Who knew you had to have directions to eat walnuts?

“The FDA’s language,” Faloon writes, “resembles that of an out-of-control police state where tyranny [reigns] over rationality.” He adds:

This kind of bureaucratic tyranny sends a strong signal to the food industry not to innovate in a way that informs the public about foods that protect against disease.

While consumers increasingly reach for healthier dietary choices, the federal government wants to deny food companies the ability to convey findings from scientific studies about their products.

Walnuts aren’t the only food whose health benefits the FDA has tried to suppress.

Producers of pomegranate juice and green tea, among others, have felt the bureaucrats’ wrath whenever they have suggested that their products are good for people.

Meanwhile, Faloon points out, foods that have little to no redeeming value are advertised endlessly, often with dubious health claims attached.

For example, Frito-Lay is permitted to make all kinds of claims about its fat-laden, fried products, including that Lay’s potato chips are “heart healthy.”

Faloon concludes that “the FDA obviously does not want the public to discover that they can reduce their risk of age-related disease by consuming healthy foods.

They prefer consumers only learn about mass-marketed garbage foods that shorten life span by increasing degenerative disease risk.”

Faloon thinks he knows why this is the case.

First, by stifling competition from makers of more healthful alternatives, junk food manufacturers, who he says “heavily lobb[y]” the federal government for favorable treatment, will rake in ever greater profits.

Second, by making it less likely that Americans will consume healthful foods, big pharmaceutical companies and medical device manufacturers stand to gain by selling more “expensive cardiac drugs, stents, and coronary bypass procedures” to those made ill by their diets.

But people are starting to fight back against the FDA’s tactics.

“The makers of pomegranate juice, for example, have sued the FTC for censoring their First Amendment right to communicate scientific information to the public,” Faloon reports.

Congress is also getting into the act with a bill, the Free Speech About Science Act (H.R. 1364), that, Faloon writes,

“protects basic free speech rights, ends censorship of science, and enables the natural health products community to share peer-reviewed scientific findings with the public.”

Of course, if the Constitution were being followed as intended, none of this would be necessary.

The FDA would not exist; but if it did, as a creation of Congress it would have no power to censor any speech whatsoever.

If companies are making false claims about their products, the market will quickly punish them for it, and genuine fraud can be handled through the courts.

In the absence of a government agency supposedly guaranteeing the safety of their food and drugs and the truthfulness of producers’ claims, consumers would become more discerning, as indeed they already are becoming despite the FDA’s attempts to prevent the dissemination of scientific research.

Besides, as Faloon observed, “If anyone still thinks that federal agencies like the FDA protect the public, this proclamation that healthy foods are illegal drugs exposes the government’s sordid charade.”

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© The New American Magazine. All rights reserved.

BettyG, IOWA ACTIVIST
RETIRED llmd coordinator of 6 yrs; group leader

NOTE: I DO "NOT" USE CHAT thanks!
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NO INFORMATION SHOULD BE CONSIDERED MEDICAL ADVICE.
please see my WELCOME LETTER/BEGINNER'S LINKS with important links/info galore :)

http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support-forums/general-support/2356916-bettygs-welcome-letter-wgood-beginner-links-

Any information provided should not be used to take the place of advice from your personal physician or other professional.

Information on those sites is the opinion of those who publish the sites and is NOT necessarily that of BettyG.

43 yrs. chronic lyme; 35 yrs. misdiagnosed by 40-50 drs. unacceptable; see my profile for more.

07/24/2011 02:13 PM  Top
jjbluemountain
Posts: 106
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OMG, what is this country becoming????

Maybe the government wouldn't be so far in debt if they left some things alone.

Of course, maybe when people sue, the loser should pay.

I could see someone suing about walnut claims.

It wasn't a snake in the garden of eden, it was a spirochete.
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