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04/29/2011 12:42 PM
llamameat
Posts: 5
New Member

So after having perfect health, at age 21 I suddenly developed severe pressure/numbness on the left side of my face. Other symptoms include, severe brain fog, anxiety, and approximately once a month I would start sweating profusely, have a temperature, and the pressure would change to a burning or cold sensation for about two days.

I went had all sorts of tests performed and was initially diagnosed with epilepsy. However when the doctors failed to find abnormal electrical activity they changed the diagnosis to generalized anxiety and told me it was all in my head. I knew this was not the case because the pain was absolutely constant and I had never had trouble with anxiety before.

Fast forward 11 years. Things never once got better but they did eventually get worse, and at 32 I decided to try to fight again. I tried dozens of suppliments but nothing seemed to make any difference until I took amoxicillin for an unrelated throat infection. When I took the drug after about a week the pressure/numbness started to shift ever so slightly. I immediately suspected Lyme since I grew up in PA and was bite by dozens of ticks as a child.

I went back to the doctors but tested negative with ELISA. I begged for a WB test but the doctor refused, and he even refused to sign for the test if I pay for it myself since I clearly don't have Lyme (not surprising since I currently live in Hawaii).

So I said screw it and I ordered amoxicillin from India because at least there was a change for help where all doctors I've seen have offered none. I took amox 1500MG a day for 3 months. The first two weeks I felt sick and experienced the same sweating and temperature that I usually did once a month, then these symptoms stopped. I switched to doxy 400MG a day for another three more months. Recently I've added Samento and Carnivora to my routine.

The problem is that I've only made minimal progress. I went from basically having no sensation (except pain) in the right side of my face, to some sensation (maybe 20% more) but continued pain. My wife is worried that I don't have Lyme and I'm killing myself with these drugs. Even I am thinking maybe the improvement I've seen is somehow just from suppressing my immune system.

Should I keep going at this point? I don't know what to do.

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04/29/2011 01:11 PM  Top
fabajenna

Hi there-

Welcome to the family!

I'm sorry for your situation..it sounds like it's been a long 11 years..

I would try my hardest to find a llmd, do your know of any in Hawaii?

Lyme disease is all over, but the doctors that are lyme literate are not, and that poses a problem for all those infected..

I would personally not treat myself, especially with antibiotics, you just don't know the side-effects and the possibility of something happening without a doctor's guidance is not something to be fooling around with.

There has to be some kind of llmd in Hawaii..I'm not saying you haven't looked, but maybe there are naturopaths or someone that knows how to treat lyme there.

My opinion is not to self-treat, and to honor your wife's concern.

She obviously loves you and doesn't want anything to happen to you..

There are lots of wonderful people on here that will support you in your search, Betty G is a group leader with a list of llmds in all states..or ones that have llmds in them.

I wish you the best in your search for care, it is crucial in the long run..

Keep searching and healing, you have our support.

peace


04/29/2011 01:49 PM  Top
llamameat
Posts: 5
New Member

I really appreciate it. There's a couple issues about seeing a doctor. First I haven't found any on Oahu through online searching, and I'm frightened about how much money I'd have to spend ($5000 a day for IV antibiotics?). However, If anyone knows of someone out here who could help I'd happily go and see them.

I thought I'd take antibiotics and that way I'd be able to find out the truth myself. I maybe stupidly assumed I would be able to tell whether it was working within a few weeks. Now here I am 6+ months in and the progress I've made still isn't enough for me to be sure it's Lyme.

Dropping the antibiotics isn't a great option either. I do not want to lose what progress I've made, there ARE signs that I'm on the right track as I've made some progress on my numbness/pressure, and recently I've been feeling absolutely calm at night when for the past 12 years I've had this subtle anxiety or nervousness. I'm also afraid that it may make things much worse since my immune system is now weak.

I suppose I'm screwed as I'm pretty determined to keep going until I've determined that it's definitely not working. It's a stupid risk sure, but in my experience I had absolutely no chance with the medical profession and a risky chance is better than nothing.

Thanks for the welcome!


04/29/2011 01:54 PM  Top
waxby
waxbyPosts: 4266
VIP Member

~~~hello llamajama,

~~~little progress is progress.You've been sick for a very long time.healing will take a very long time.

~~~If you are going to self treat,at your own risk,educate yourself non stop to learn to do it properly.Feeling worse after administering a drug or herb is called a herxheimer,or herx, and is indicative of it's effectiveness.Keep educating.

~~~from my straight jacket~~~out on a limb~~~lookin like a cocoon~~~hangin by a thread~~~waitin for a butterfly~~~under the moon~~~lovey-dovey~~~Mitchell

~~ "The way to 'Heaven' is to bring it with you ..." -Mitchell
~~ "Sometimes, we gotta go through hell to get to 'Heaven'" -Mitchell
~~ "The way out is in" -Mitchell
~~ "A miracle speaks ...'I don't believe in Miracles.' " -Mitchell
~~ "Life is good, even when it isn't." -Mitchell
~~ "Sometimes you gotta lose to win." -Mitchell
~~ "It's easy when it's easy! Find reason, purpose and meaning when it's hard!" -Mitchell
~~ "If you're gonna think, think again!" -Mitchell
~~ "Make it so!" ...
~~ “When life do what it do, as it do-do, simply say ‘Of Course!’ (to soften life’s ‘blows’)” - Mitchell
~~ A master once said, "When embarking on the spiritual path, 'Oh Dear! There's no turning back! You've really done it now!' "
~~ “Not thoughts be your guide, rather, guide your thoughts.” -Mitchell
~~ "That which is within, and that energy entering this body/mind/spirit, causing harm and ill health, must and will be transformed into love healing energy and sent out in every direction" -Mitchell
~~ One morning ten years ago I awoke from a dream chanting over again and again, and writing this down so as not to forget ... "It doesn't matter who did what, there's nowhere else to go but up ..." -Mitchell
~~ "This life, our life, and what we do with it on this planet is “simply” a display, a reflection, of what is going on in our consciousness. The proof is in the puddin’. Look at our planet, what humans are doing to it, and with it, and to one another, and ask yourself ... ~ 'How’s this working for us/me?' ” -Mitchell
~~ "Step away from monkey mind, not tangle ... Observe ... Inhabit your higher self ..." -Mitchell
~~ "Anything is possible, but manythings you think are true, are not ... " -Mitchell
~~ "Grow where you are planted ..." -Mitchell
~~ "Change your future now ..." -Mitchell
~~ “Write your equation … 4 u r the sum of u … “ -Mitchell
~~ “We are largely a product of our environments … how’s your inner environment doing? …” -Mitchell
~~ “We reveal ourselves to ourselves in everything we do … life is our mirror … howdoyoudo? …” –Mitchell

04/29/2011 02:04 PM  Top
waxby
waxbyPosts: 4266
VIP Member

~~~And another thing,get a hold of your test and take a look at them and post here any positive or indeterminate band.Even one positive or inderterminate lyme specific band indicates lyme according to a LLDr or LL person.

~~~from my straight jacket~~~out on a limb~~~lookin like a cocoon~~~hangin by a thread~~~waitin for a butterfly~~~under the moon~~~lovey-dovey~~~Mitchell

~~ "The way to 'Heaven' is to bring it with you ..." -Mitchell
~~ "Sometimes, we gotta go through hell to get to 'Heaven'" -Mitchell
~~ "The way out is in" -Mitchell
~~ "A miracle speaks ...'I don't believe in Miracles.' " -Mitchell
~~ "Life is good, even when it isn't." -Mitchell
~~ "Sometimes you gotta lose to win." -Mitchell
~~ "It's easy when it's easy! Find reason, purpose and meaning when it's hard!" -Mitchell
~~ "If you're gonna think, think again!" -Mitchell
~~ "Make it so!" ...
~~ “When life do what it do, as it do-do, simply say ‘Of Course!’ (to soften life’s ‘blows’)” - Mitchell
~~ A master once said, "When embarking on the spiritual path, 'Oh Dear! There's no turning back! You've really done it now!' "
~~ “Not thoughts be your guide, rather, guide your thoughts.” -Mitchell
~~ "That which is within, and that energy entering this body/mind/spirit, causing harm and ill health, must and will be transformed into love healing energy and sent out in every direction" -Mitchell
~~ One morning ten years ago I awoke from a dream chanting over again and again, and writing this down so as not to forget ... "It doesn't matter who did what, there's nowhere else to go but up ..." -Mitchell
~~ "This life, our life, and what we do with it on this planet is “simply” a display, a reflection, of what is going on in our consciousness. The proof is in the puddin’. Look at our planet, what humans are doing to it, and with it, and to one another, and ask yourself ... ~ 'How’s this working for us/me?' ” -Mitchell
~~ "Step away from monkey mind, not tangle ... Observe ... Inhabit your higher self ..." -Mitchell
~~ "Anything is possible, but manythings you think are true, are not ... " -Mitchell
~~ "Grow where you are planted ..." -Mitchell
~~ "Change your future now ..." -Mitchell
~~ “Write your equation … 4 u r the sum of u … “ -Mitchell
~~ “We are largely a product of our environments … how’s your inner environment doing? …” -Mitchell
~~ “We reveal ourselves to ourselves in everything we do … life is our mirror … howdoyoudo? …” –Mitchell

04/29/2011 02:07 PM  Top
fabajenna

Hey there-

Go to the top where it says Forums..

The top one listed is Doctor's Requests..

If you post in there, someone will find you and try and help the best way they can..I would but I don't have that list!Grin

Again, welcome, and no matter what you decide, we're here to support you and see you through your journey..

peace


04/29/2011 02:15 PM  Top
RL123
 
Posts: 226
Member

Llama, what a tough situation you are in. Sorry that you have to go it alone. There is an alternative to IV that they think may be as effective, it is Bicillin injection. I am doing 3 a week, with 400 mg of Doxy. Don't forget you MUST use probiotics! You don't want to mess up your gut.

If you are going to self treat you must learn as much as you can. Treatment takes a long time, I have a lot of co infections, so my case might be a little different. I have had Lyme and company for 2 years, I have been in treatment for 7 months, I have had a lot of improvements, but still have a ways to go.


Previous discussions I participated in:
Do I need to go with PICC line
2 Questions...Anyone?

05/31/2011 01:48 PM  Top
llamameat
Posts: 5
New Member

Hey guys, thanks for the advice and kind words.

I recently stated taking Lumbrokinase and it may be making all the difference in my case. I need more time to be completely sure, but I'm getting more and more certain I'm on the right track.


05/31/2011 02:28 PM  Top
waxby
waxbyPosts: 4266
VIP Member

~~~Hello llama,

~~~Lyme is very complex disease. And so, Lyme Complex Disease. It is not enough to treat from only one angle.

~~~For instance, if you have Lyme with co-infection Bartonella, you would need a combination if different abx or a combination of herbs. And so it is important to determine more of what it is you are dealing with for a more targetted approach.

~~~from my straight jacket~~~out on a limb~~~lookin like a cocoon~~~hangin by a thread~~~waitin for a butterfly~~~under the moon~~~Lovey-Dovey~~~Mitchell

~~ "The way to 'Heaven' is to bring it with you ..." -Mitchell
~~ "Sometimes, we gotta go through hell to get to 'Heaven'" -Mitchell
~~ "The way out is in" -Mitchell
~~ "A miracle speaks ...'I don't believe in Miracles.' " -Mitchell
~~ "Life is good, even when it isn't." -Mitchell
~~ "Sometimes you gotta lose to win." -Mitchell
~~ "It's easy when it's easy! Find reason, purpose and meaning when it's hard!" -Mitchell
~~ "If you're gonna think, think again!" -Mitchell
~~ "Make it so!" ...
~~ “When life do what it do, as it do-do, simply say ‘Of Course!’ (to soften life’s ‘blows’)” - Mitchell
~~ A master once said, "When embarking on the spiritual path, 'Oh Dear! There's no turning back! You've really done it now!' "
~~ “Not thoughts be your guide, rather, guide your thoughts.” -Mitchell
~~ "That which is within, and that energy entering this body/mind/spirit, causing harm and ill health, must and will be transformed into love healing energy and sent out in every direction" -Mitchell
~~ One morning ten years ago I awoke from a dream chanting over again and again, and writing this down so as not to forget ... "It doesn't matter who did what, there's nowhere else to go but up ..." -Mitchell
~~ "This life, our life, and what we do with it on this planet is “simply” a display, a reflection, of what is going on in our consciousness. The proof is in the puddin’. Look at our planet, what humans are doing to it, and with it, and to one another, and ask yourself ... ~ 'How’s this working for us/me?' ” -Mitchell
~~ "Step away from monkey mind, not tangle ... Observe ... Inhabit your higher self ..." -Mitchell
~~ "Anything is possible, but manythings you think are true, are not ... " -Mitchell
~~ "Grow where you are planted ..." -Mitchell
~~ "Change your future now ..." -Mitchell
~~ “Write your equation … 4 u r the sum of u … “ -Mitchell
~~ “We are largely a product of our environments … how’s your inner environment doing? …” -Mitchell
~~ “We reveal ourselves to ourselves in everything we do … life is our mirror … howdoyoudo? …” –Mitchell
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