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04/15/2011 04:24 PM
imaxfli
Posts: 23
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In 2005 I became rather ill with Lyme-like symptoms. Another symptom that appeared at the same time was a white-coated tongue.

After countless tests many Conventional Docs told me I was well. I finally felt better but my white-coated tongue persisted.

Got diagnosed with Lymes 2010 (with Babesia) and in that 5 year period my white-coated tongue persisted(some fading for brief periods).

I started to treat the Lymes (KETEK, Artemisinin, Alinia, Teasel, Cats Claw) and much pain appeared...

at most recent Doc visit (a LL one), my Doc gave me A-Bart to try (after Bab test was negative and I mentioned my symptoms seemed more Bart than Babs),

in one day my tongue was 80% better,in 2 weeks it is actually Pink, I read a book without glasses for first time in a year and my joint pain slowly subsided..

Now doing the KETEK, A-Bart, Teasel and Cats Claw for a month..but man, what results with A-Bart...maybe it is the missing ingredient I need...

any comments or suggestions?(also I haven't had a cold or flu in 5 years).

Post edited by: imaxfli, at: 04/15/2011 04:26 PM

broke up solid paragraph text to short 1-2 sentences MAX, doublespaced between them, and emphasized. bettyg, iowa leader

Post edited by: Bettyg, at: 04/15/2011 10:23 PM

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04/15/2011 08:51 PM  Top
sandiegolymer
sandiegolymer
 
Posts: 208
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Wow! That's great news! I remember having the white tongue thing when I first got sick with Lyme last year - I'll have to look into the treatments you mentioned.

I too have symptoms of Bart and it is SO hard to get rid of! I would absolutely LOVE to read a book without glasses - since Lyme, my eyesight has just gotten progressively worse.

Thanks for your post!

-Sandie

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04/15/2011 10:25 PM  Top
Bettyg
 
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welcome imaxSmile

i don't have personal experience on a-bart.

please see how i broke up your post above and reading what i did at bottom of your post. please do that inthe future for us neuro lyme folks who can't read/comprehend your posts as is.

thanks for helping us help you Smile hugs

here is some more reading info for white-coated tongue ..

Candida diet and elimination:

Lyme symptoms list compared with yeast symptoms

Yeast Infection, The Silent Epidemic from LYME dentist, docdave, 8-07

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi? ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=068288#000001

CANDIDA,,,WHAT LLMDS ARE MISSING by Bugg, .7.7.08..excellent!

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic; f=1;t=068694

BettyG, IOWA ACTIVIST
RETIRED llmd coordinator of 6 yrs; group leader

NOTE: I DO "NOT" USE CHAT thanks!
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04/15/2011 11:07 PM  Top
inkyblck
inkyblckPosts: 446
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Hi imaxfli, I've been on A-BART since Feb 3rd ( w/ a little break when my doc suggested I switch to A-L ) ...

A-BART is potent ~ very potent, and very effective ...

Not only will it help with tick-related infection, but it also has antiviral and antifungal properties ...

When a person has lyme, I think it is safe to assume that there will also be a problem with parasites and candida in the gut ... all this will cause a white tongue ( not to mention antibiotics ) ...

It is SO great to hear that you are improving !!!

Please keep posting ...

I've seen a lot of improvement since I beagn the A-BART, and I think that we are seeing the begining of a breakthru with the Byron White formulas ...

I am NOT a "lymie" ~ I loathe that term ... I will not be defined by the vile bacteria that will very soon be out of my system ~ If you consider yourself a "lymie" right now, what will you have left when you rid yourself of the bacteria ~ nothing ??? ... Don't be a "lymie", be YOURSELF and fight it ...

...

And by the torrent on the banks thereof on both sides shall grow all trees that bear fruit: their leaf shall not fall off, and their fruit shall not fail: every month shall they bring forth firstfruits, because the waters thereof shall issue out of the sanctuary:and the fruits thereof shall be for food, and the leaves thereof for medicine. ~ Ezekiel 47:12

04/16/2011 04:13 PM  Top
imaxfli
Posts: 23
New Member

Anyone ever get the "stretch marks" described with Bart? If so, do they look like rather subdued fingernail scratches(maybe 4-6 of them, 4 inches long?)..and do they go away right away??? Had these of shoulder and lower back 10 days into A-Bart..when I looked minutes later they were gone-don't remember scratching myself that would produce those marks.

04/16/2011 04:29 PM  Top
Bettyg
 
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BettyG, IOWA ACTIVIST
RETIRED llmd coordinator of 6 yrs; group leader

NOTE: I DO "NOT" USE CHAT thanks!
**************************************

NO INFORMATION SHOULD BE CONSIDERED MEDICAL ADVICE.
please see my WELCOME LETTER/BEGINNER'S LINKS with important links/info galore :)

http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support-forums/general-support/2356916-bettygs-welcome-letter-wgood-beginner-links-

Any information provided should not be used to take the place of advice from your personal physician or other professional.

Information on those sites is the opinion of those who publish the sites and is NOT necessarily that of BettyG.

43 yrs. chronic lyme; 35 yrs. misdiagnosed by 40-50 drs. unacceptable; see my profile for more.

04/16/2011 05:05 PM  Top
inkyblck
inkyblckPosts: 446
Member

imax, I get red lines, streaks and dots all the time ~

I never had any until I started treatment ...

These are not allergic rashes ~ I have also had the red streaky lines appear after colonics and sessions in the IR sauna ...

I've posted a few pics of them in my profile ~ I'll post more b/c I've had a lot of new ones lately (don't worry, no colonic pics, I assure you ~ LOL SmileSmileSmile

I am NOT a "lymie" ~ I loathe that term ... I will not be defined by the vile bacteria that will very soon be out of my system ~ If you consider yourself a "lymie" right now, what will you have left when you rid yourself of the bacteria ~ nothing ??? ... Don't be a "lymie", be YOURSELF and fight it ...

...

And by the torrent on the banks thereof on both sides shall grow all trees that bear fruit: their leaf shall not fall off, and their fruit shall not fail: every month shall they bring forth firstfruits, because the waters thereof shall issue out of the sanctuary:and the fruits thereof shall be for food, and the leaves thereof for medicine. ~ Ezekiel 47:12

04/17/2011 05:27 AM  Top
imaxfli
Posts: 23
New Member

yes..the rashes...mine are much more subdued than the photos(from Betty)...first time I've seen them in a while and they came out after A-Bart started...disappeared right away..is this common that they appear as treatment with something that works against them is started.

Post edited by: imaxfli, at: 04/17/2011 11:02 AM


04/17/2011 08:10 AM  Top
imaxfli
Posts: 23
New Member

Improvement with A-Bart..yes, but is it just a temporary thing...what do we need for a cure.

04/17/2011 08:24 AM  Top
shorelinelyme
shorelinelymePosts: 1252
Senior Member

imaxfli,

I just wanted to let you know...that I used to get exactly what you described- about 3 or 4 red lines- that would pop up after taking an herbal or regular abx...and then be gone within a minute or two...

So strange- these illnesses!

JackieSmile

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