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11/16/2010 02:29 PM
wlkthlne
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By now many of you know, I for sure have "Bart" and am under treatment for it.

When worked for the Vet I remember testing cat's for Bartonella...we used the term cat scratch disease,so I had not put the two together.

I found this link, it should be read by both those who are fighting Lyme and those who have Cats.

Please refer to page 6 there are some pictures of it on humans. On me it's mostly my eyes. Some get growths in the neck and behind the ear...

http://www.natvetlab.com/PDF/catownerbrochure.pdf

The whole site is worth the reading, very basic and short to the point..

regards to all,

wlkthlneCool

Anything I post or respond to comes from a Lyme and Bart victim himself. I am NOT a doctor. I do my own research for ME...I may share my findings and will post them. They are for general talk and vent...If a group leader feels the info is worth saving somewhere, they are more than welcome to do with it as they like. Wlk=)
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11/16/2010 04:08 PM  Top
cmany
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Thanks for that - my neighbor I suspect may have it from her cats and her poor living conditions - now I have something to take with me when I take her to the ER next time....
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11/16/2010 04:22 PM  Top
Julie4848

When I had all my testing done I was told I had a PAST infection for Bart, I had many cats all my life..I'm sure that is where I got it from...Most people can fight it off, some can't. I remember my mom telling me just before you died last month "Julie, don't get another cat, you got sick once as a child from a bite"...hummmmmm

11/27/2010 05:53 AM  Top
equest
 
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Oh, man...I can't even count how many dentals I did on cats without a mask on. All that saliva splashing me in the face and eyes. Plus, I lived with a cat with stomatitis for years.

I wondered if the bartonella I have was from exposure to cats or ticks, or both. Who knows I guess, I just want it gone.

Thanks for the info wlkthlne.


11/27/2010 05:59 AM  Top
shorelinelyme
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Equest,

If you google- Galaxy Labs & Bartonella- you will be able to read the research that is ongoing at the University of No. Carolina on Bart. This was started by a veterinarian.

I hate to say it for cat lovers- but having cats is a huge risk for coming down with varying strains of Bart.

Jackie

Post edited by: shorelinelyme, at: 11/27/2010 05:59 AM


11/27/2010 09:54 AM  Top
MOON
 
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WOW very good information. Thanks wlkthlne for posting thisSmile

11/27/2010 10:26 AM  Top
VicMac
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Wow, I just keep learning more and more from you guys.

Thanks for that article WTL.

Was exposed to cats for a good part of my life. But I do believe that if I have it, which looks very likely, that I got it from a tick out in the woods.

Question: is it then harder to get rid of it if it went in the body with Lyme and other coinfections? And does this weaken the body more against it?

Also, after having it for a really long time, does that make it harder to cure?

What is the best test for it, for humans?

I wish I had solutions for everybody here who is suffering, but I am still hunting for them myself and seem to be more of a student on this board than a teacher. All I have to offer is my experience, support, and prayers based on what I have learned in my recovery. I am not a physician.

11/27/2010 03:07 PM  Top
wlkthlne
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Just what this site is for...for all of us to share, don't matter what it is....You are all welcome..

Moving on to Vic...You asked the very questions I am wondering...allow me to post your questions here..

Question: is it then harder to get rid of it if it went in the body with Lyme and other coinfections? And does this weaken the body more against it?

Also, after having it for a really long time, does that make it harder to cure?

What is the best test for it, for humans?

Here is what I remember reading...For those of us like me..with Bart and Lyme...the claim is it is difficult to get rid of...

Because they feed off each other...So when ya kill the Bart..the Lyme say's "hello" and vice versa...

This is only my guess..the longer you have the harder to get rid of..because it has taken over your body and has found it's feeding ground..every where.

As for the testing..I was talking with some one on here and she is getting the Lyme test through IgeneX along with co-infection tests...

The SAD part is...there are so many different strains of Bart...and other co-infections...When she asked her MD who will "honor" the test...the MD's laptop only had certain strains to test for???

I will see if I can get her to comment here...For sure all and any info is sure interesting...

Vic and others here....If you find more info..please share, this seems to effect more of us than we realize...

wlkthlneCool

Anything I post or respond to comes from a Lyme and Bart victim himself. I am NOT a doctor. I do my own research for ME...I may share my findings and will post them. They are for general talk and vent...If a group leader feels the info is worth saving somewhere, they are more than welcome to do with it as they like. Wlk=)

11/27/2010 03:50 PM  Top
wlkthlne
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Found it!! It is in the IgeneX site...The test question Vic asked...

This first link shows the different "Bart's" they will check for...

It's called Bartonella FISH Test..

http://igenex.com/files/CD57_Test_2010.pdf

this next link is the IgeneX site, helps clearfy some questions you may have....

http://igenex.com/Website/

wlkthlneCool

Anything I post or respond to comes from a Lyme and Bart victim himself. I am NOT a doctor. I do my own research for ME...I may share my findings and will post them. They are for general talk and vent...If a group leader feels the info is worth saving somewhere, they are more than welcome to do with it as they like. Wlk=)

11/27/2010 07:02 PM  Top
VicMac
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WTL,

Thanks so much for all the info.!

Def. going to have my primary care doc test for this when I get back to Maryland. I have put up with this for 17 years, I can wait a couple more months I guess.

He is not an LLMD, but should be able to ask for this test. I hope he will cooperate! He was about to ship me off to an Infectious disease doc ( Oh no, not that! ) But I am just going to insist that my PCD do it. Show him all the info you all have provided.

I have an HMO/Medicare plan, and I understand that Medicare does pay for this kind of testing with Igenex???

I wish I had solutions for everybody here who is suffering, but I am still hunting for them myself and seem to be more of a student on this board than a teacher. All I have to offer is my experience, support, and prayers based on what I have learned in my recovery. I am not a physician.
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