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Holly123 Posts: 330
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Bettyg Posts: 27235
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i have alot about this in LYME ACTIVISM and here in support in other posts.  BettyG, IOWA ACTIVIST
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VicMac Posts: 1653
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Holly, Interesting Utube video! Always wondered whatever happened to the Montauk stuff, or if it really ever occured. Looks like it may still be going on. Would not surprise me in the least if our government were doing experiments like this. Did any of this result in Lyme? Does make one wonder. Kind of alarming. I still need to watch the other links. Interesting. I wish I had solutions for everybody here who is suffering, but I am still hunting for them myself and seem to be more of a student on this board than a teacher. All I have to offer is my experience, support, and prayers based on what I have learned in my recovery. I am not a physician. |
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shorelinelyme  Posts: 1252
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I finally watched all 3 parts to this on UTUBE. I was not going to watch it- since I can *SEE* Plum Island from our beautiful coastline in town. It is about what I expected and I guess, feared...that there is the possibility that what we all have is so hard to get rid of because it may have been designed this way...as a form of biowarfare. I do have faith, that the truth will all come out in the end...and we will all be able to get well!( It makes me even more determined to get completely well!!!...God willing....) Jackie Post edited by: shorelinelyme, at: 10/21/2010 06:59 PM |
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AshMcD Posts: 144
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Wow...Just the thought of this as being the "truth" behind lyme disease...messed up!! |
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Holly123 Posts: 330
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Jesse Ventura reports there are 1300 germ labs through out this country (the U.S) maybe there is something we can do to prevent them from continuing these laboratories.. Hopefully they won't take the risk of moving Plum Island labs to Kansas.. Don't they realize how many people already have have lyme disease and god knows what else.. Another thing I noticed it seems to being infecting the majority of women.. or maybe we are more likely to report it.. Isn't it odd how they are infecting not just the American people but people all over the world now.. Don't they realize how quickly it is spread according to the dr. I went to he is very well respected. Lyme can be spread sexually, ticks, fleas, bitting flies, mosquiotos, bed bugs, lice, spiders.. I suppose any insects that can suck blood. We have to speak up and unite to prevent this from happening to others.. |
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Bettyg Posts: 27235
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when it was first announced they would be moving plum island to KANSAS, the lyme/co-infection community jumped on the band wagon letting our federal senators/house reps know by emails, faxes, phone calls, and in person how bad they will be since it could/CAN affect our food industry. no one listened to us then! i've forgotten the rest of the details on this, but we were NOT silent about this at all. BettyG, IOWA ACTIVIST
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VicMac Posts: 1653
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Holly, I have noticed that same, that it seems to be infecting mostly women. ( Not to minimize on all you guys who are suffering! ) But "Chronic Fatigue Syndrome" is definately one of those things that has mostly affected women as studies show. And I would guess that a large percentage of these women may really have Lyme disease. Could this have something to do with bugs possibly being more attracted to biting women than men? Something in our chemistry perhaps? For as long as I can remember, in all the outdoor activities I have been involved in over my life, the guys seemed to be freer from flies and mosquitos pestering them. I have always been jealous of that. But that is just my experience. Anyway, I am really glad to know about his Plum Island information. Thanks Holly. Do you all really think that Lyme disease leaked out of there? Did it start in Lyme Connecticut because of a mistake, or was it intentional? Why would our government intentionally try to infect US here? I heard something about this being true for aids also. Post edited by: VicMac, at: 10/22/2010 09:44 AM Post edited by: VicMac, at: 10/22/2010 12:28 PM Post edited by: Bettyg, at: 10/22/2010 10:22 PM I wish I had solutions for everybody here who is suffering, but I am still hunting for them myself and seem to be more of a student on this board than a teacher. All I have to offer is my experience, support, and prayers based on what I have learned in my recovery. I am not a physician. |
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Supermom2 Posts: 269
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I had a thought after watching the Plum Island show. I recall hearing that most research conducted under Nazi Germany is not restricted. I wonder if anyone has checked to see if documentation still exists regarding Erich Traub's research. It could provide useful information or at least clues. supermom2 |
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Holly123 Posts: 330
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Betty G., I admire your efforts but maybe Some one in the Plum Island Conspiracy Theory documentary will be able to get the attention of these politicians.. Maybe we need to try again.. possibly contacting TV Stations, Film Makers that sort of avenue.. Vic Mac Re: Did Lyme disease Leak out of there, yes there is documented proof as states in the documentary that lyme and various other illness have leaked out of there.. In addition to Lyme, Collera, Dessert Fever, Anthrax and god knows what else.. Did you notice the Montauk Monster by the way.. some think it is genetically enegineered animal and what about the human body that washed up on shore too?? In the documentary (Conspiracy Theory Plum Island w/ Jesse Ventura), Former Director of Plum Isand Dr. Roger Breeze admits that these experimental diseases viruses what have you are tested on animals but can also be passed on to humans.. I believe that is in Part 4. A resident living across the water from Plum Island Randy Sykes stated he found gov't documents from the Dept of Defense stating these animals were brought outside and infected with ticks.. He stated that lyme could easily be spread by the birds.. Anyway I am as accurate as I can be so I hope everyone gets to watch this documentary more than once.. hopefully we all can use our voice. Either via radio, TV.. local politians etc. Also VicMac, Yes I have noticed bugs love me maybe b/c I love sugar.. also I assume more women have it b/c maybe it is passed sexually, the doctor I went to was on the board of the IDSA he thinks it is.. Maybe some people don't think they are sick.. I know Brian Rosner mentioned that in his book people with Lyme don't know we are sick b/c it starts as a sinus infection etc.. with some it is ADHD, Depression etc.. Post edited by: Bettyg, at: 10/22/2010 10:21 PM Post edited by: Holly123, at: 10/24/2010 08:45 PM |
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