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07/23/2010 03:33 PM
sheliacat
 
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hi all i have been on my abx now for about 4 months and i am starting to get a yeast infection and it is driving me

up the wall. i had to go get the monistat cream but not sure thats helping.. i have been eatting the cultured yogurt all the time but

still have it. any more info on how to rid this stuff been on the pearls probiotic but i guess not much help..

i have also just had a HIDA scan for my gallbladder been having alot of stomach problems there as well, waiting to hear my results

this disease has effected every organ in my body its good to have friends to talk with ..thanks everyone..

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07/23/2010 10:18 PM  Top
Bettyg
 
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hugs to shiela Kissing

please read below to see if any of this will help you ok. hugs Smile bettyg, iowa leader

yeast & candida Lymetoo/TUTU’s links:

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Candida diet and elimination:

Lyme symptoms list compared with yeast symptoms

Yeast Infection, The Silent Epidemic from dentist, docdave, 8-07

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi? ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=068288#000001

CANDIDA,,,WHAT LLMDS ARE MISSING by Bugg, .7.7.08..excellent!

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic; f=1;t=068694b

DIETS FOR LYME BY SMOKITO/AMANDA, RN 4.1.10

Start with a healthy balanced diet and go from there. No added sugars. No processed foods. Don't eat any foods you are intolerant/allergic/sensitive to (e.g. dairy if you are lactose intolerant).

Interesting facts about digestion & immune system (this may help explain the importance of diet):

1. Animal experiments with sterilization of the gut found that when beneficial bacteria living on the intestinal epithelium (lining) are removed, the cell renewal process of the intestines gets completely out of order.

This results in less cells (enterocytes) being born, and less being born healthy, resulting in abnormal cells (and the potential to become cancerous).

The microvilli degenerates and results in malabsorption, nutritional deficiencies, food intolerances, and colitis/inflammation (think of a lawn scraped by a snow plow).

2. Gut flora is essentially the housekeeper of the digestive system. Without healthy flora, the body is unable to digest food properly.

For example: Milk & Wheat protein (a problem with many Lyme patients) are digested as follows:

First in the stomach the digestive juices split the proteins into peptides. Then these peptides move into the small intestine where pancreatic juices get involved. Thirdly, at the small intestine wall, they must be broken down by enzymes on the microvilli.

In patients with damaged enterocytes, the wheat and milk proteins get absorbed into the bloodstream unchanged and cause problems in the body. (in particular, interference with brain & immune system function.)

3. It probably isn't new to you that the beneficial flora/bacteria in our GI tract perform a good chunk of digestive functions.

Lactose in particular is mostly digested by E. Coli (non-pathogenic strains). Other beneficial bacteria actively synthesizes various nutrients.

4. Essential bacteria in our GI tract engage a part of the immune system: the lymphoid tissues of the gut wall and are part of the production of large numbers of lymphocytes and immunoglobulins. (Bifidobacteria is one good example of this.)

5. The last big important fact that I must mention is toxins & medications. Painkillers in particular stimulate growth of hemolytic (destroys blood cells) forms of bacteria & Campylobacter in the gut which are capable of causing disease. Steroids are notorious for causing Candida overgrowth (oh, the list goes on .)

Healing the gut involves the obvious step of cutting out foods and substances that are counterproductive to healing (aside from necessary medications).

These foods include: wheat, gluten, casein, grains, sugars, and starches.

Starches is one particular food type that many diets don't cut out so I will explain a bit more about why this is necessary.

Digestion of starch requires quite a bit of work for the digestive system. In healthy people some starch goes undigested due to the complex structure.

Aside from the issues of having undigested food in your gut, starch that is digested is broken up into Maltose, which is a sugar that cannot be absorbed without being split up into monosugars by the enterocytes (see where this is going). Damaged enterocyte=undigested, unabsorbed.

Now, most fruit, particularly unripe, contains a double sugar. It is very important to eat ripe fruit for this reason. The small amounts of starch and sucrose (double sugar) in fruit and non-starch vegetables are tiny compared to the grains, starchy vegetables and table sugar.

Fats are very important for healthy nerve function (in particular). Fats are very easy for the enterocytes to absorb, however if the gut flora is substandard, mucous production by the GI lining will be extreme (protective measure).

This will result in fat not being able to reach the enterocytes (for absorption) and pale, greasy stools.

When starches and table sugars are cut out of the diet for a long enough period, the mucous production normalises and absorption improves.

The last big food type that should be eliminated is: soy

Soy impairs iodine absorption and reduces thyroid function. The processing of soy includes large amounts of aluminum. Soy beans have high concentrations of phytates which bind to minerals and block absorption.

Soy allergies are very common. And last but not least, the natural estrogens in soy, while useful for menopausal women, are not so useful for others.

This is not set in stone. It just explains why some of these foods are cut out. Not everyone needs to cut out all of these foods. Remember, the bacteria is stealing nutrients from you that you need, so you can't stop taking in those nutrients to starve the bacteria. It would starve your own cells as well.

Post edited by: smoxito, at: 04/01/2010 01:51 PM

BettyG, IOWA ACTIVIST
RETIRED llmd coordinator of 6 yrs; group leader

NOTE: I DO "NOT" USE CHAT thanks!
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07/23/2010 10:42 PM  Top
Wolfpack
Wolfpack
 
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There are two things you can try. Actually three I think.

You should first call your OB GYN and get a cream called Terconazole Cream for yeast infections. Someone once told me they're the same thing as the Monistat in the stores, but time prooves otherwise. This needs a perscription. You should be on it for two weeks not one like they usually prescribe. Tell your OB GYN the problem and they should call it in for you.

Another one that they can call in for you at the same time is Diflucan. Despite what the ads say, once again with Lyme Disease, you need more than one tablet to cure a Lyme Yeast Infection. My LLMD just wrote me out a script for it for 1 a day for the entire month with a refill!!!!!!! You may do better getting that from your LLMD rather than your OBGYN but that depends upon your doctors.

An unconventional method that works on usually fixing and alot of times preventing Yeast Infections is go to a health food store and buy 00 size empty caplet that you can fill yourself. Go to any pharmacy and behind the counter they will (should) have Boric Acid powder. Before bed, fill one capsule (I use a spoon) with as much of the Boric Acid powder as you can get in and insert it with one of the other applicators from the Monistat or something that will get it way in there. In the morning and next day, it's normal to have some watery stuff to deal with. Have to wear a pad because tampons would make it ineffective, but that's the same with the cream.

Hope one of these works for you.

Good luck

Cindy

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07/24/2010 04:16 AM  Top
equest
 
Posts: 94
Member

Terconazole really made the difference for me for the vaginal symptoms. I am on diflucan and nystatin already and follow a "don't feed the yeast" diet.

A friend of mine is a GYN and she said diflucan takes care of 1 or 2 strains of yeast. Terconazole gets the others.


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07/24/2010 05:01 AM  Top
sheliacat
 
Posts: 87
Member

thank you so much for answering my ad.thank you so much..

07/24/2010 05:02 AM  Top
sheliacat
 
Posts: 87
Member

thanks betty , the info has realy helped..shelia

07/24/2010 05:04 AM  Top
sheliacat
 
Posts: 87
Member

thanks for responding, i will call my LLMD and get him to call this in..thanks everyone so much..

07/24/2010 08:24 AM  Top
toothfairy55
toothfairy55
 
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My LLMD has me on diflucan everyday. This has been for several months now.
Carol

I am NOT a doctor, anything I share is based on my experience & research. I encourage you to discuss any and all information that I share with a health care provider.

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