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TaraT Posts: 4164
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Thanks AnnF...I don't know why I thought taking these was going to be easy LOL With Him we "live" no matter the circumstances. At His feet peace of mind can be found. Peace that passes all understanding is my quest now and forever.
Numbers 6:24-26
"The LORD bless you and keep you;the LORD make his face shine upon you and be gracious to you; the LORD turn his face toward you and give you peace."
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waxby  Posts: 4121
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~~~So then just a drop or two or three of samento and other herbs can really wreak havoc? I'm also doing Venus fly tap and Teasel and Mino and MMS. I mean I still,after all these years,have an almost impossible time distinguishing between herx or just getting worse.I mean am I getting worse because I am getting better or getting worse because getting worse.A silly question really,who knows for sure and this question has been asked by so many so many times.But it SEEMS like just a drop or two or three just might kill me! OY,I just don't know! ~~~AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! ```````~~~From my straight jacket~~~out on a limb~~~lookin like a cocoon~~~hangin by a thread~~~waitin for a butterfly~~~under the moon~~~Mitchell~~~ ~~ "The way to 'Heaven' is to bring it with you ..." -Mitchell
~~ "Sometimes, we gotta go through hell to get to 'Heaven'" -Mitchell
~~ "The way out is in" -Mitchell
~~ "A miracle speaks ...'I don't believe in Miracles.' " -Mitchell
~~ "Life is good, even when it isn't." -Mitchell
~~ "Sometimes you gotta lose to win." -Mitchell
~~ "It's easy when it's easy! Find reason, purpose and meaning when it's hard!" -Mitchell
~~ "If you're gonna think, think again!" -Mitchell
~~ "Make it so!" ...
~~ “When life do what it do, as it do-do, simply say ‘Of Course!’ (to soften life’s ‘blows’)” - Mitchell
~~ A master once said, "When embarking on the spiritual path, 'Oh Dear! There's no turning back! You've really done it now!' "
~~ “Not thoughts be your guide, rather, guide your thoughts.” -Mitchell
~~ "That which is within, and that energy entering this body/mind/spirit, causing harm and ill health, must and will be transformed into love healing energy and sent out in every direction" -Mitchell
~~ One morning ten years ago I awoke from a dream chanting over again and again, and writing this down so as not to forget ... "It doesn't matter who did what, there's nowhere else to go but up ..." -Mitchell
~~ "This life, our life, and what we do with it on this planet is “simply” a display, a reflection, of what is going on in our consciousness. The proof is in the puddin’. Look at our planet, what humans are doing to it, and with it, and to one another, and ask yourself ... ~ 'How’s this working for us/me?' ” -Mitchell
~~ "Step away from monkey mind, not tangle ... Observe ... Inhabit your higher self ..." -Mitchell
~~ "Anything is possible, but manythings you think are true, are not ... " -Mitchell
~~ "Grow where you are planted ..." -Mitchell
~~ "Change your future now ..." -Mitchell
~~ “Write your equation … 4 u r the sum of u … “ -Mitchell
~~ “We are largely a product of our environments … how’s your inner environment doing? …” -Mitchell |
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TaraT Posts: 4164
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I guess what doesn't kill us here just might make us stronger...I admit I had to only take it once today.... I had NO idea this stuff was SO strong..So many don't herx at all..But I am very toxic in so many ways... Drinking a lot of water has helped me quite a bit...but I was one that NEVER drank water for years now.... It's funny though because once upon a time I was on a strict low carb diet and drinking almost two gallons of water per day and it kept me so full... I was still able to work but was getting sicker and sicker and sicker....That was a very low point in my life...That's when the panic attacks started too... Luckily I have only had like two panic attacks in the last ten years...but the herxing makes me wonder which of my old nemesis symptoms are going to come back and how hard are they going to hit me???? With Him we "live" no matter the circumstances. At His feet peace of mind can be found. Peace that passes all understanding is my quest now and forever.
Numbers 6:24-26
"The LORD bless you and keep you;the LORD make his face shine upon you and be gracious to you; the LORD turn his face toward you and give you peace." |
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waxby Posts: 4121
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~~~Tiresome TT,to say the very,very,very,very least,isn't it? ~~ "The way to 'Heaven' is to bring it with you ..." -Mitchell
~~ "Sometimes, we gotta go through hell to get to 'Heaven'" -Mitchell
~~ "The way out is in" -Mitchell
~~ "A miracle speaks ...'I don't believe in Miracles.' " -Mitchell
~~ "Life is good, even when it isn't." -Mitchell
~~ "Sometimes you gotta lose to win." -Mitchell
~~ "It's easy when it's easy! Find reason, purpose and meaning when it's hard!" -Mitchell
~~ "If you're gonna think, think again!" -Mitchell
~~ "Make it so!" ...
~~ “When life do what it do, as it do-do, simply say ‘Of Course!’ (to soften life’s ‘blows’)” - Mitchell
~~ A master once said, "When embarking on the spiritual path, 'Oh Dear! There's no turning back! You've really done it now!' "
~~ “Not thoughts be your guide, rather, guide your thoughts.” -Mitchell
~~ "That which is within, and that energy entering this body/mind/spirit, causing harm and ill health, must and will be transformed into love healing energy and sent out in every direction" -Mitchell
~~ One morning ten years ago I awoke from a dream chanting over again and again, and writing this down so as not to forget ... "It doesn't matter who did what, there's nowhere else to go but up ..." -Mitchell
~~ "This life, our life, and what we do with it on this planet is “simply” a display, a reflection, of what is going on in our consciousness. The proof is in the puddin’. Look at our planet, what humans are doing to it, and with it, and to one another, and ask yourself ... ~ 'How’s this working for us/me?' ” -Mitchell
~~ "Step away from monkey mind, not tangle ... Observe ... Inhabit your higher self ..." -Mitchell
~~ "Anything is possible, but manythings you think are true, are not ... " -Mitchell
~~ "Grow where you are planted ..." -Mitchell
~~ "Change your future now ..." -Mitchell
~~ “Write your equation … 4 u r the sum of u … “ -Mitchell
~~ “We are largely a product of our environments … how’s your inner environment doing? …” -Mitchell |
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Bettyg Posts: 26538
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hugs/kisses tara; so sorry you're so sick right now; saying a prayer for you dear friend. bettyg, iowa leader BettyG, IOWA ACTIVIST
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zoemajik Posts: 666
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Tara (((hugs)) >>I was still able to work but was getting sicker and sicker and sicker....That was a very low point in my life...That's when the panic attacks started too...>> Me, too. I was able to work (barely) for about two years into my panic disorder before all hell broke lose. Mitchell - When I first added Oil of Oregano to my Samento, I had episodes of losing feeling in my legs (at 2-4 drops, 2 times per day), among other strange things that would come and go. Thankfully, it didn't last too long, and the worst of the herx is now over, now back to regularly scheduled symptoms. Now I'm looking forward to the "getting better" part. lol A few drops of the potent extracts or oils are very strong! At least you get your money's worth that way! Valerie, Lymphedema group leader and Lyme patient.
I am not a health-care professional. Information and experiences I share should be regarded as such, and are not intended to take the place of medical advice from your doctor. |
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MOON Posts: 107
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TaraT, I'm on Samento as well along with many other things. Couple of days ago I also upped my doses and that evening had a bad herx reaction. Had to sit down. My arms and legs just stopped working. They felt like heavy weights. Lots of twitching and cramps. My right side went to sleep. Lasted most of the night. Woke up feeling like I had been hit by a truck. Very tired and week. Lots of pain. Dropped my doses back down. Am now feeling better. Hope you get to feeling better as well |
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TaraT Posts: 4164
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Hi Moon Thank you and everyone else for your well wishes and concern. I actually am very excited that I can tell this stuff is Killing the vile varmints! I had to back down to taking it ONCE a day...and I was doing 6 drops of each after backing down from 10. I think that is still too much for me.. I woke up this morning after sleeping for 12 HOURS HELLO!!! I haven't been ABLE To sleep for a year or more and now I'm sleeping 12 hours?????? Luckily my husband was home! I woke up and still felt VERY tired and my face was ALL SWOLLEN..especially my right eye which has always swollen over the left eye since I was a teen. My fingers and my knees and ankles are VERY sore ...not JUST sore but feel like they are sprained...and are very swollen...I'm urinating VERY frequently and seem to be passing a LOT of fluid...but still swelling?? Weird stuff! I'm excited about finally having something that works but I think my enthusiasm got me in a big pickle...I'd hate to go back down to ONE drop of each but if I have to then....I will! I would LOVE to get daily or weekly updates with everyone using samento and or banderol and oil of oregano...and how it's working for you. I know I spoke with Garret several days ago via private msg...He'd been on samento for 6 months and is now symptom free and running races EVERY weekend... Now I realize he was VERY VERY healthy before he got ill...so I think he had a head start at getting better too...but still that was SO very encouraging for me...and made me SO HAPPY for him! With Him we "live" no matter the circumstances. At His feet peace of mind can be found. Peace that passes all understanding is my quest now and forever.
Numbers 6:24-26
"The LORD bless you and keep you;the LORD make his face shine upon you and be gracious to you; the LORD turn his face toward you and give you peace." |
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shorelinelyme  Posts: 1252
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Tara, I'm still taking the Samento and Banderol and Argentyn 23/Mesosilver (I alternate these during the day) I am also on Mino & Zith- and would LOVE to stop these- but I think I'm going to keep them for now... I have read before that people heal in reverse- and I honestly feel that this is happening with me. The area that will stiffen during the day is my right shoulder blade area- and this was my original symptom. Last year my feet were my worst symptom by far, then, my head- and now it's back to my shoulder. I just had an LLMD appt and he wants to keep the abx the same- and have me really work on building up my immune system- transfer factor, liposomal c, olive leaf extract. He almost was going to put me on low dose naltrexone- until he read the black box warning it has for potential liver damage. I have been very active during the day- compared to last year. I am presently taking no advil- where I was taking 4 prescription strength a day before I was diagnosed. I am also going to start drinking ozonated water. I just bought a cheap machine off of amazon ($50.) Last year, I would be exhausted and shaky after a walk...I am now biking each day..and driving all over creation for my kids this summer!!! I'm not better, yet...but I feel there is always HOPE and there are always options. I am still feeling the effects in my shoulder of my last rife treatment 1 1/2 weeks ago- but this time it was less than last month. My naturopath actually said that she felt I was close for starting to come off of abx. Next month I'll take the week before my rife treatment off- to get the bacteria out of hiding, hopefully. Everyone on this site is in my prayers...and especially, Mitchell- you can get better from this! This is the biggest test in perseverance!!! Jackie - Tara- last year I had a terrible problem with burning, stinging eyes. It honestly felt like I had acid for tears- so I didn't dare cry. I actually went to the emergency room for my eyes- they were so painful one night I couldn't close them to sleep...This is now gone, thankfully. Post edited by: shorelinelyme, at: 07/15/2010 03:42 PM |
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TaraT Posts: 4164
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Hi shorelinelyme. Thank you so much for your post. WOW your eyes hurt that bad? to go to the ER...whoa. Were they able to get them better? Did they know you had lyme? What did they say about the eyes? I wonder if it's the parasites in the eye that is causing the pain etc? That's a weird symptom but I lived with it for a couple of years and had to stop wearing contacts all together... It got better but my eyes were still very dry. Now in this herx things I had forgotten about are popping back up. But again, I'm so thankful that I have these herbs because I don't have the money to see an LLMD and pay up front for everything. Thanks to everyone for the info shared about samento and banderol.. I actually have some oil of oregano but have not tried it yet... With Him we "live" no matter the circumstances. At His feet peace of mind can be found. Peace that passes all understanding is my quest now and forever.
Numbers 6:24-26
"The LORD bless you and keep you;the LORD make his face shine upon you and be gracious to you; the LORD turn his face toward you and give you peace." |
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