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06/24/2010 06:42 PM
Santinagirl
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Is there really much difference besides the name between the two? Any info is helpful. Unsure
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06/24/2010 07:19 PM  Top
TaraT
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From what I understand, the samento is TOA free and because it's liquid there are properties that help it to be more effective. Other than that there are the studies specifically for samento that present a great outlook for positive outcome.
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06/24/2010 11:47 PM  Top
Santinagirl
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Thank u so much.

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06/25/2010 04:34 AM  Top
Paschalltwin
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I agree with TaraT. I have Samento in my refridgerator, but I herxed on it, so I am not ready to take it again.

06/25/2010 10:39 AM  Top
Deny
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TOA?

What does that mean?

I am going to be better than my Doc if I will continue to be with you - and there is no reason why I should not be here.

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06/25/2010 11:43 AM  Top
ten1988
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Samento (Toa) Free Cat's Claw is the trade name for a variant form of the South American herb, una de gato. It is established that this variant form, which grows only in limited parts of Peru, is devoid of certain types of alkaloid (tetracyclic oxindole alkaloids), and that these alkaloids are normally antagonistic to the beneficial activity of una de gato. It is claimed that Samento is therefore considerably more effective than ordinary una de gato.
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06/25/2010 01:09 PM  Top
zoemajik
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Oops ... I answered this in your PM didn't see the post. Oh well Wink

Still, cat's claw raw herb made me herx so it definitely does something ... I find I get relief sooner with the Samento, though. Two days and I start feeling better on it...

Valerie, Lymphedema group leader and Lyme patient.

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06/25/2010 08:19 PM  Top
zenducation
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Stephen Buhner argues that Cat's Claw is actually more effective than Samento, probably because the spirochetes cannot adapt to the complexities of the thousands of constituents of an herb.
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06/25/2010 11:25 PM  Top
TaraT
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Interesting...I wonder if it would be good to alternate the two?
With Him we "live" no matter the circumstances. At His feet peace of mind can be found. Peace that passes all understanding is my quest now and forever.

Numbers 6:24-26
"The LORD bless you and keep you;the LORD make his face shine upon you and be gracious to you; the LORD turn his face toward you and give you peace."

06/26/2010 01:01 AM  Top
Deny
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My oh my, I forgot to take my cat claw+other stuff dose this morning.

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