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12/29/2009 09:58 PM
smj225
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Hi,

Does anyone understand blebbing? From my limited knowledge, I understand it to be sort of a "smoke screen" response to the presence of abx (or another type of hostile environment to spirochete). I believe many Lyme patients are confusing "ongoing herxing" with blebbing. This survival technique by which borrelia is able to protect itself not only prevents effective abx therapy but also confuses the immune system. In my opinion, this mechanism seems to be one of the key reason Chronic Lyme patients struggle to improve their condition. Any insight would be much appreciated. Thxs.

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12/29/2009 10:29 PM  Top
Bettyg
 
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never heard of this; i just looked at NIH'S MEDICAL LIBRARY; it doesn't show up in their dictionary, illneses, etc.

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12/30/2009 01:27 PM  Top
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I plan to check this out...it seems I ran across this word "blebbing" sometime before, but now you have gotten me curious again!
I am not a medical doctor YET...my opinions are not approved by the FDA! ;)

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12/30/2009 02:49 PM  Top
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12/30/2009 05:24 PM  Top
Jensen16
 
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http://www.thefreedictionary.com/blebs

some definitiions of "bleb", but I don't know yet if its the same thing...

What??

12/30/2009 05:33 PM  Top
Jensen16
 
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In the article below, blebbing is described as a defense mechanism, spirochete pinch off bits of it's membrane to release surface protiens, the sacrificed protiens are then free to tie up attacking antibodies.

This is the first time I've heard of this term. Here's the link:

http://www.actionlyme.org/BARBOURS_STEALTH_BOMBERS.htm

Many researchers believe that the secret to B. burgdorferi's infectivity and inflammatory capacity lies in the interaction of its surface proteins with the host's immunological system. Yale researcher Stephen Barthold, a veterinarian and professor of comparative medicine who developed the first mouse model of Lyme disease, studies the expression of B. burgdorferi surface proteins throughout various stages of the spirochete's life cycle. He finds that during the early stages of infection, B. burgdorferi avoids immune detection by decreasing its expression of surface proteins or cloaking its expressed surface proteins under a layer of slime. "It's using some sort of stealth-bomber-type mechanism," he says. Or, using another diversionary tactic called blebbing, the spirochete can pinch off bits of its membrane in order to release its surface proteins. Explains Barbour: "It's like a bacterial Star Wars defense program," in which released surface proteins might intercept incoming host antibodies, keeping the spirochete safe from immunological attack.

What??

12/30/2009 05:34 PM  Top
Jensen16
 
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http://www.actionlyme.org/BARBOURS_STEALTH_BOMBERS.htm

exert from article:

"Or, using another diversionary tactic called blebbing, the spirochete can pinch off bits of its membrane in order to release its surface proteins. Explains Barbour: "It's like a bacterial Star Wars defense program," in which released surface proteins might intercept incoming host antibodies, keeping the spirochete safe from immunological attack. "

What??

12/30/2009 05:37 PM  Top
Jensen16
 
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Hi BettyG,

I haven't heard the term "blebbing" before,

but here's a link i just found:

http://www.actionlyme.org/BARBOURS_STEALTH_BOMBERS.htm

"Or, using another diversionary tactic called blebbing, the spirochete can pinch off bits of its membrane in order to release its surface proteins. Explains Barbour: "It's like a bacterial Star Wars defense program," in which released surface proteins might intercept incoming host antibodies, keeping the spirochete safe from immunological attack. "

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What??

12/30/2009 08:48 PM  Top
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12/31/2009 10:04 AM  Top
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I havent heard of blebbing before, but at first thought you might be talking about floxing... but guess not. Kind of interesting here Smile
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