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07/09/2013 01:30 PM

Please..need cyst buster..

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Can someone please recommend an antibiotic cyst buster that will complement my zithromax and aBart and eNula???? Please..I am nearing an end.

07/09/2013 01:47 PM
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Antibiotic cyst buster?

Things that kill lyme cysts are grapefruit seed extract and neem, if that's what you mean.

07/09/2013 01:54 PM
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tindamax, flagyl

07/09/2013 02:00 PM
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Metronidazole is a cyst buster, and Vic is right, grapefruit seed extract is as well.

07/12/2013 02:12 PM
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Thank you so much, please again...are tindamax and flagyl and metronidazole anti's? Also what dosage of GSE, in water, how many drops, how many times a day, someone said the GSE might interfer with the Zithro!

07/12/2013 05:22 PM
waxbyPosts: 4811
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~ Hello max!

flagyl and metronidazole are two names for the same drug ...


Treatment of chronic Lyme usually requires combinations of antibiotics. There are four reasons for this:

1. TWO COMPARTMENTS- Bb can be found in both the fluid and the tissue compartments, yet no

single antibiotic currently used to treat Bb infections will be effective in both compartments. This is

one reason for the need to use combination therapy in the more ill patient. A logical combination

might use, for example, azithromycin plus a penicillin.

2. INTRACELLULAR NICHE- Another reason, discussed below, is the fact that Bb can penetrate and

remain viable within cells and evade the effects of extracellular agents. Typical combinations

include an extracellular antibiotic, plus an intracellular agent such as an erythromycin derivative or

metronidazole. Note that some experts discourage the co-administration of bactericidal plus

bacteriostatic agents, thus the recommendation to avoid a cell wall drug combined with a


3. L-FORMS (SPHEROPLAST)- It has been recognized that B. burgdorferi can exist in at least two,

and possibly three different morphologic forms: spirochete, spheroplast (or l-form), and the recently

discovered cystic form (presently, there is controversy whether the cyst is different from the l-form).

L-forms and cystic forms do not contain cell walls, and thus beta lactam antibiotics will not affect

them. Spheroplasts seem to be susceptible to tetracyclines and the advanced erythromycin

derivatives. Apparently, Bb can shift among the three forms during the course of the infection.

Because of this, it may be necessary to cycle different classes of antibiotics and/or prescribe a

combination of dissimilar agents.

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4. CYSTIC FORM- When present in a hostile environment, such as growth medium lacking some

nutrients, spinal fluid, or serum with certain antibiotics added, Bb can change from the spiral form

(“spirochete”) into a cyst form. This cyst seems to be able to remain dormant, but when placed into

an environment more favorable to its growth, Bb can revert into the spirochete form. The antibiotics

commonly used for Lyme do not kill the cystic form of Bb. However, there is laboratory evidence

that metronidazole and tinidazole will disrupt it. Therefore, the chronically infected patient who has

resistant disease may need to have metronidazole (or tinidazole) added to the regimen. More

details are provided in the section on treatment options.


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