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12/13/2007 22:46
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Hi Morgantaylor! I'm pretty new here myself. I know exactly how you feel with the denial stuff. I felt it, too. Still do somewhat, since everything else has not been ruled out for me. I got a heads-up that I might have FM a year ago after a sleep study detected Alpha-Delta wave disturbance. (I couldn't get enough restful sleep, even if I slept 12 hours + a nap, so the doc sent me for a sleep study.) Before the sleep study, the doc had me convinced that I had stress-induced depression and put me on Cymbalta, which helped for the first two or three months, but I had terrible side effects after being on it after that (stopped taking it soon after the sleep study results came in). This Alpha disturbance is comorbid with FM in a lot of people. Strangely, so is teeth grinding while asleep!?! (I use a tooth night guard.) Stress makes flare-ups worse.

So, from there, my doc sent me to a rheumatologist for "official diagnosis". Only problem was it took 5 months for me to get in to see the rheumatologist! This past May, I finally got the appointment and the answer that I did have FM (he did the trigger point test and I had more than 11 of the 18 points).

I'm going for another sleep study tomorrow night to see if anything has changed. I'm also seeing the rheumatologist next week again to go through all of my med records to see if there is anything else that my regular doc missed testing me for, to rule out all other possibilities (what fun).

From what I understand, there are blood tests for thyroid disorders, pituitary and adrenal gland disorders that need to be done to rule those out, diabetes, MS, then there are nerve conduction tests which can be done through a neurologist to find out if there is a disorder there, etc. I've already had the bloodwork. I personally am not looking forward to the nerve conduction testing because I know it's gonna hurt, but I am going to talk to the rheumatologist about it anyway, so that I can relieve the curiosity in my mind if there is anything else at all that could be causing these symptoms!

My symptoms started after a car accident when I was 9 weeks pregnant in early 2004. I hit my head pretty hard and had a mild concussion. A few weeks later, I was diagnosed with gestational diabetes, which went away right after my son was born (he's 3 now). The pregnancy was horribly painful and tiring. Sciatica really bad. Anyway, I breastfed my son for a year, who wanted to eat every two hours so I never really slept for that year!

After stopping breastfeeding and he was sleeping through the night, the exhaustion never went away. Neither did the weird pains that seemed to come and go at the oddest times, but always upon waking in the morning (esp. bad backaches), at least for the first half hour or so. One afternoon, I'd have my Achilles tendon hurt like I had run a marathon. The next day that would be gone, but my knee and hand would be hurting. All this and I had done nothing to bring it on. I thought I was going bonkers! The tremors and spasms can really suck, too (my thumb twitched on and off for a week at one point). I had headaches for a few months, then they just went away for half a year, but now they're back.

My doc originally thought I was depressed and stressed, hence the Cymbalta mentioned above. It all snowballed from there. And I'm sick of my regular doc chalking up everything that I feel to FM! Example: I had swollen salivary glands for a month and she said that she thought it was just part of the FM. Sounds so silly to me! (I think I'm gonna change my primary doc.)

Right now, I'm taking Valium at least a few times a week (settles nerves and relaxes muscles mildly), Darvocet when it gets bad, and Lunesta for sleep every night. If you don't find relief from over the counter meds and the doc's Rx doesn't help enough, you might try an antihistamine called diphenhydramine (Benadryl) if it's safe for you to do so. It's a bit unorthodox but helped me previously on rare occasions to relax the nervous system and to sleep more deeply. Non-medication help I've found includes soaking in hot baths, heating pads, massages, and meditation, as well as lots of pillows while I'm resting on the couch! I do tai chi from videos in my living room when I'm feeling fairly well (a few times a week), being careful not to overdo it or else I'll pay for it over the next 2 days!

So that's my story. I suggest getting your doc to send you to a specialist, such as a rheumatologist or physiatrist (NOT misspelled!) and running further tests. It seems a lot of people in this support group have pain specialists, too. As far as getting family and friends to understand, try printing out the info you find on the internet from reputable medical websites, such as the NIH, and have them read it. I had to do this with my Dad to get him to understand moreso. It might work with some of your family. One example I used to help a friend understand: when I get a blood pressure check, I get tingling pains down my arm for hours afterward just from the pressure of the BP cuff. I explained to him that FM seems to be a nervous system overreaction to what should be only mildly painful stimuli. He got the point.

Although, in my situation, my family understands fairly well but my hubby doesn't! He believes there's something going wrong with me but doesn't believe that it's FM at all, even with the rheumatologist's report in his face! At least he doesn't deny the sleep disorder as well! I can be a little long-winded. Sorry!

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12/14/2007 01:20
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Hello AngeL;

Thanks for the post. You said you tended to be long winded... nope, no such thing here. You were clever in how you aranged your words to soothe an aching newcomer. Well, we all hurt in one form or place or another and you helped to give us some other options -home remedeys that still to this day will help at least till we can get to the doc's office. Exept for the one about the heating pad. I've had F.M. for years now and have tried the 'ol heating pad several times and always always it makes me worse. You right though, heat does help a lot of people, but I'm an ice-woman. Give me two cans of cola straight ouuta the fridge and I'll lay down and pop those suckers up under my calves, and boom... pain is gone- till later on anyway. And thanks for the info on how to get your family to understand our pain. My kids 29 & 30 still do not understnd why I'm not like I used to be. I might just print that info out and bring it with me this Christmas. I've had mine since 88 and I still can not get my kids to understand. My daughter had someone one tell her: "Oh, it's just somethin the doc's label you with when they have no idea what it is you have wrong with you". To this day she believes this. It's sad that someone would tell a kid (12 yrs. old)something like that! Well, I'm long winded too so you can pm me anytime! Catch ya later.

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12/14/2007 01:36
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Dear Morgantaylor; You can bet the ranch on it...this condition does exist and it's here and it's real. Let me ask you: Do you feel stiff in the mornings maybe walk a little like Frankenstien? Do your leggs cramp up when you get out of the car from a londg trip or from sitting in a position for a short while? Do your hands ache when you type? Do your hands and feet swell at times and you don't know why? Get confused at times over what you last did? Does it hurt sometimes when your husband - or anyone - touches you? Does the pain last all day? Do you sleep a lot? Do you feel fatique? If you can answer yes to these questions, honey you don't need a test to tell you there is something wrong with your body. I hope this has helped you, and welcome to our "little family". Hugs, pillpopper
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12/14/2007 10:02
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Pillpoper,

Well then...I guess I'm now a member of y'all little family thanks to all of your questions...

In my newspaper today, in Dr. Gott's section, someone wrote in about fm. Said that they take Elavil, and it helps wonderfully. Has anyone tried Elavil?

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12/14/2007 10:07
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Its an antidepressant. (I think). I haven't taken it. I have a friend who has. It has a bad side effect of weight gain. That's all I know on the subject.
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12/14/2007 10:32
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Anjel...

You mentioned you get swoolen glandds too. That sounds like Chronic Fatgue Syndrome. Don't let the title fool you, it's not all about fatugue. Actually it's a lot like or identicle (sp) to Fibro.

It's really tough when so many things start hurting and you don't know what to think!!! How long has it been for you with the Fibro? Have they ruled everything else out, yet? I ask that because some docs like to blame everything on Fibro (even I do)!

I noticed you mentioned Evail (sp) (anitdepressant).

Boy, do I know it. It's the first thing they gave to me and sorry to say it can help you sleep bbbbuuut...it can put weight on you

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By the way, I'm fairly new to so WELCOME!!!

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12/14/2007 10:35
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SweetheartSuzee!

You mentioned you get 270 percs. a month. Where in the tarnation do you live??? I'm happy if I get 120 Darvocetts a month!!!

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12/14/2007 22:40
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Yes, I do! Not that I'm 'proud' of it...but it's what it takes for me! Only after being a guinea pig for wayyyyyyyyyyyy too long, I am happy to just stick with the 270 percs a month. (plus something for sleep, depression, muscle spasms, anxiety,panic attacks and chest pain).

I live near Seattle, Washington but my doc is in a small town on the outskirts of Seattle and just took over from my PAIN DOC when I moved here from Eastern Washington!

I know...270...it's a mind blower, but I gotta do what I gotta do...and apparently...that's what it is for now. I just wish they worked a little better. I'm thinking it's time to 'change up' again. I usually go from those to half that amount and then add some Darv's or Vicodin to it. OR...go off the percs all together and switch to Oxycontin for a while! **sigh**

I know that there are soo many people that would give an arm for this amount of meds...but believe me...I'd SOO much rather be normal, have NO pain and not have to take ANY meds at all. They run and ruin my life!

Hey...welcome to the group by the way...and if I already said that to you...please add it to my Fibro-Fog list and forget about it....LOL...

I need sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep!

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Change your thoughts and CHANGE YOUR LIFE!!!
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12/14/2007 23:17
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Hi Sweetheartsuzee!

Oh I know what your saying. I get frustrated because I really do need more. But it's like 1 every 6 hour!!!

Thats hard to stick to sometimes and when I'm real bad I (sorry to say) take what I need for the pain. I have to take Darvs. Right now I'm also on the Fentanyl patch. My Doc is weaning off that and try sometime else.

He better not take my Darvs!!!!

I really wish I didn't have to live like this, making sure I'llhave enough meds for the month.

I had to live for many years w/o pain meds and I won't do it again.

If my spelling is bad cause I'm getting real tired and my eyes cross on me and I see 2 of everything!!!

It's taking me forever to right this. You should see me.

Hope to type to you soon!

Your pain pal

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12/16/2007 15:44
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Suzie, I'm with you -- I go through a tremendous amount of pain medication in a month. It's insane. I would so much rather not have to take them than have to worry about where they are, how many do I have left, am I gonna have enough after this long day, and so on. I would say I easily do 90 Dilaudid 8 mg in a month, more if it's really bad. It sure does help though. I have to wait for the first one of the morning to kick in before my legs feel better and stop hurting so damn bad from sleeping. It's just the trouble of them that I don't like. I mean, I can't take off on a long trip somewhere while I'm on these and of course the Fibro Fog gets worse when I take them sometimes. I catch myself slipping all the time at work or forgetting something. I like what MorganTaylor said about not being able to imagine that this pain all the time isn't curable. It's unfortunate, we have to just expect that we'll be in pain all day and even at night. There's no really true way out. But, it's up to us, personally, to figure out a way to make it through our days.

Whatever you have to do, it's true desperation sometimes just to make it through work for me. Getting up, getting ready, driving through rush hour (up to an hour drive to work), working, then repeat the traffic on the way home. It's enough for me on most days, I had to take a month off from school to just get a break and rest.

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