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09/13/2008 09:40 PM

Horrible Pain Specialist

Leonardy
 
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Thursday at my lawyer's recommendation I saw a pain specialist that will take my letter of intent as insurance is out for the year.Doc was even in the same center as my personal injury lawyer.The important thing is although I have fibromyalgia and chronic back pain, we must show an INCREASE in these symptoms is what is called "causality from the accident".This guy looks me over, has me take the air cast off my foot, asks a lot of questions about my meds and my doctor and focuses on the pre-existing condition rather than my broken foot(which those of you who know me know has been going on since January)which has now caused the GOOD knee to hurt and my thumb is also very painful.He tells me this is from the crutches.(Wow, did ya think that one up yourself,doc?)I am continually drilled about my meds as if I am committing espionage.I must get my meds only from him.I am drug dependent because I have been on meds for so long.He starts to write a prescription for a Duragesic patch, explaining to me how it works and that I can use the hydrocodone for breakthrough pain.I mention that wow, Phentanyl is strong stuff, and he asks how I know what it is. I explain that my son took this when he had cancer.He then tears up the script in front of me and says he won't give me this until he sees my med bottles. No problem, I have them with me.He looks them over, mutters something about the unusually large dose of Lyrica I'm taking and how he must have my prescribing doctors phone number.I give him that too. I leave with a script for celebrex and a return appointment in 2 weeks and a rather stunned expression on my face.I feel as if I have been treated like a criminal.The next day I leave a message for my lawyer that this man would probably be detrimental to us winning our case as he is focusing on pre-existing conditions.Thanks, for letting me vent guys,it is so hard to find a good doctor, so if you have one, keep him!

Deb

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09/13/2008 10:43 PM
Wolfpack
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This sounds like two of my doctors, one of which dropped me as a patient recently because I was on Oxy (although he wouldn't admit that was the reason.) He just kept saying "whoo hoo, whoa, geez, wow." Sounds like my friggin Mynah bird (before she passed.) My Rheumy EVERY MONTH GRILLS me like I'm a criminal (just like you said!) About my medications. EVERY MONTH tells me I'm on a lethal dose of Klonopin. EVERY MONTH forgets everything he asked me the prior month but asks me again even though its all in his notes. He's an idiot! The only reason I see him is because he's the only one who will prescribe my pain meds for me in the entire state that I've found and trust will continue if I keep being his lab rat and answering all of his mistrusting questions. Oh, yeah, he's big on knowing and calling all my other Dr.'s too. Had an argument once with him because I didn't want to tell my Chiropractor I was on Oxy, and he tried to guilt me into "It'll make him know you better as a person. I think he should know. Why wont you tell him. YOU SEE, EVEN YOU SEE THE STIGMA ABOUT BEING ON THESE TYPES OF THINGS!" No, stupid! He's a chiropractor, not a prescribing doctor and has no business knowing what meds I'm on or anything about my medical tx unless it pertains to him! Thanks to this ahole calling my G.P. about being on Oxy (which he's against - the Whoo hoo guy) me and my husband (who's also on it) get letters discharging us with no explanation as patients after THIRTEEN years of being treated by him! When asked why, his response was "I can't discuss it." I told him that it really hurt to be his patient for 13 years and just get a one sentence letter discharging us from care for no apparent reason and he acted upset and said "it upset him to to see patients go." Yeah, him and his wallet and new jaguar! I'm really mad about hearing about your Dr., so thanks for letting me vent about mine.

Wolfpack


09/14/2008 05:13 AM
Jeerie
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I'm so sorry both of you have had to go through this. Just goes to show you how many drs still just don't get how much pain this stupid illness causes us! They all expect us to be superwomen/supermen!!

09/15/2008 09:03 PM
Leonardy
 
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Boy, he really sounds like a creep!Both of them do! I never heard of being discharged just because you were on a certain med.I have seen my GP for over 20 yrs...my husband and even my 93 y/o mother in law go to him.Being a GP has just stuck him with certain restrictions like the kind of meds and how often and how many they prescribe and so forth. And when did Soma become a big addictive controlled substance? I have been on it for years and it was considered a pretty harmless but effective muscle relaxer until now.Thanks for venting Wolfpack-I needed that!

Deb


10/31/2010 08:58 PM
EldoradoKennedy
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For God's Sake get a new Dr.

Go to your Primary and ask him for a referral.

There are pain clinics popping up in America.

I go to one and it's helpful.


05/28/2011 09:15 AM
walkingthru
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This reminds me of the headache specialist I went to. He dumped me because I missed "too many appointments" - guess why? My head was hurting so badly that riding in the car for an hour each way was too much to tolerate! Now figure that one out!!

It's hard to find a pain doc who treats you like a person instead of a potential drug abuser. I had one tell me that I could work as an RN while taking Methadone for pain, and with chronic migraines that pretty much incapacitate me when they hit. I almost asked him if he'd like me taking care of his mom, wife or daughter while I was under the influence of those drugs. This particular pain doc ended up being lieutenant governor in the state we live in; now that's scary. Eventually, he left to enter politics and I was reassigned to a somewhat decent doctor. Once his patient load increased, I started seeing his nurse practitioner. She's a gem. I really like her. She's practical and down to earth and she treats me like a real person.

Lots of pain clinics refuse to administer narcotics. Lots of primary docs refuse to administer them as well. It's not because they can't prescribe them; it's because they are scared of the mess they can be in if the DEA comes down on them. A few pain docs who believed in giving their pain patients sufficient meds have ended up in prison because the DEA accuses them of prescribing medication that isn't needed or of being prescription mills.


05/28/2011 03:07 PM
Kristie1972
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i really don't know what states you all live in. but when i went to my lawyer for my disablity, we looked at all of my medical problems. and the more medical problems that you have the better off you are for the disablity. my mine problem is the fibro, but i got my disablity for my asthma and spastic colon and then fibro.

and with all of these doctors not wanting to help with the pain relief. remind them that they did take an oath to treat people and to make them comfortable.. i have had to do this when i have been admitted to the hospital. and my doctor was not the one doing the rounds.

hang in there.


07/06/2011 05:27 PM
walkingthru
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I actually got my disability granted for my chronic major depressive disorder, not my persistent idiopathic facial pain (which was what put me out of work due to the intense pain). I did mine without a lawyer. I was a member of a support group, and knew what to look for and at, and how to do things, and one of the things they recommended was getting the doc's blue book from the disability site, finding where you fit, and highlighting those areas. The ALJ (administrative law judge) at my appeal hearing looked at what I had highlighted and told me if I could get my psychiatrist to validate what I had indicated there, they would have to grant me the disability because it fits right in the guidelines in the original disability documentation. My psychiatrist had no problem writing the letter. He has been a real advocate for me and very supportive.

I had decided when I applied that if I didn't get approved by my first hearing, I would get an attorney. Actually, I did try to get one when I got the notification of my hearing, but the lawyer I did contact waited till 2 weeks before the date and then decided they didn't have time to do what they needed to do for the case, so they dropped me very uncourteously. I went in with my hubby, we talked to the judge, and 8 weeks later I got my first check.

As far as docs not wanting to medicate with narcotics for pain, the biggest problem is the DEA whipping into the office, going through all the charts, tying the doc up for the day or even the week, and then if they find one error or mistake they go through every single chart, which can take a month or more. My first pain doctor had a heck of a time when one of his patients, a 70-year-old man, tested positive in a random urine test by the DEA representatives......and what was he doing? Cocaine. The doc had no clue, and neither did anyone else.

Don't forget that many physicians are subject to the same misconceptions about people who suffer from chronic pain that a lot of other people have - that we are drug seekers, attention seekers, and hypochondriacs in search of a fix.....that if we just bucked it up we'd be fine....that it can't possibly hurt that badly if we're still walking and talking, though many of us do it in the midst of pain that would put other people down. They need education as much as many people in the non-medical public. That's why pain doctors who are anesthesiologists are so important. If you look for pain clinics, you'll see probably 1 in 3 state that they don't prescribe narcotics. Unfortunately, for some of us, narcotics - legally or illegally obtained, whether the drug itself is legal or not - provide our only chance for functioning day to day on a somewhat reasonable level. They do biofeedback, counseling, the TENS unit, massage, diet, behavior modification, and other things that may work for some people, but not all of us. It depends on the location and origin of the pain, the intensity of the pain, and the duration of the pain along with several other factors.

The public and the medical field need to see that we just want to live a life as close to normal as possible. I don't expect to be pain-free. I will be pain free when I'm dead. Barring a miracle from God Himself, which I would happily accept, that is the next time I will feel no pain. I do appreciate having a pain management professional who works with my other doctors to find the best combination of medication and therapy to enable me to function to the best of my ability given the situation I am in at this point in time. Honestly, I couldn't ask for more.

Trisha

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