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11/04/2007 18:45
angelcath6567
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It is sooo hard to talk to my family about this! I kind of broke down to my mother tonight. I told her about "fibrofog" and about an incident I had this morning that I mention in my "newbie" message regarding feeling pain holding a cold bottle.

She absolutely refuses to believe I have this disease! She said to me "I think you should go off all your meds and see what happens" I couldnt believe it! I have been on Lortab for about 3 years now for m back issues and it is the only pain med I have right now for this pain. I told her I couldn't do that because I couldn't function without some sort of pain medication! She just doesn't get it. When I mentioned "fibrofog" she said "Oh Cathy, everyone gets forgetfull." And above that, she sighs, she gets so upset if I try to talk to her. Then I feel the guilt of knowing Im upsetting my mother about something I have absolutely NO control over!! I asked her to please understand the added stress and guilt from her denying and sighing makes matters worse. I tried to explain to her that none of this is anything she did as a mother!

Then I talked to my brother. He lives in another state. He asked how I was feeling and I tried explaining everything to him. All I get is "hmmmm".

I mean, I understand this is hard on them. I understand too that they dont know what to say. But the guilt I feel!!! And I always worry that everyone thinks Im lying!

And this is just one reason I am sooo very glad I have found this site. You are all so wonderful! Its great to be able to get these feelings out!

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11/04/2007 19:30
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I'm a newcomer here as well and like you I am so happy to have found this group. It's so comforting to read what other people have to say and see that there really are people out there who are going through the same thing as you.

I'm sorry that your mom isn't really showing you the compassion that you need right now. I've gone through a similar situation with my father. I'd be here forever explaining everything we've been through since I was diagnosed when I was 12 years old, but I can tell you that things are better today and have been for the last few years now. My mom had finally convinced him to go to a few of my doctors appointments with me so he could hear for himself exactly what my doctor had to say. Slowly he started to come around and is much more supportive nowadays. Do you think she'd consider tagging along to your next doctors appointment? Maybe hearing it from an expert is what she needs to break her out of the denial.

Try not to feel guilty! I know that's easier said than done, but you have absolutely nothing to feel guilty about. It took me a long time to realize that and I still have issues with it today. But blaming yourself will only make you feel worse and right now you need to stay focused on doing what's best for you. I hope things get better!

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11/05/2007 02:52
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Well said Bubble. alot of us have family that just don't understand. For me it's my husband. It's very difficult to get them to understand something they can't "see". When I was first diagnosed I brought home literature from the Dr. and asked him to read it. that was 6 years ago he still hasn't. That' why this forum is sooo important we all understand. Noone has to explain their feelings of guilt or despair and just being able to vent those feelings without fear of how someone will take what you said is very theraputic. I agree with Bubble. If you can get your mom to go to the Dr. with you she may be more undrestanding. If not try bringing her literature to read about Fibro. The other thing I'll say as a mother it's very hard to see our children ill especially when we can't fix it. Maybe her denial stems from her feeling guilty that she can't make you "all better".

Karen



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11/05/2007 07:34
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Here's something for the family-

the National Fibromyalgia Association Clothespin Challenge:

http://www.fmaware.org/site/PageServer? pagename=ClothespinChallengeCampaign

While you're there check out the whole site - it's got a lot of good things for us there.

BTW- I've asked them it included us on there link page to online support groups

Bruce

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11/05/2007 07:58
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YEAH Bruce!!! Good thinking!

Angel...don't feel guilty!! I know...easier said than done. But, like my Acupuncturist tells me, "Stop kicking yourself". And, she's right. I mean, what can I do??!! NOTHING!! Please take shapiro's link and print stuff out for your mom. Tell her she could help you soo much if she would just at least read it!

I hope things get better for you!

{{{{Fibro Hugz}}}}

~Suzee~
Only YOU can control your thoughts...
SO...
Change your thoughts and CHANGE YOUR LIFE!!!
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11/05/2007 08:27
angelcath6567
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Thanks again for all your insight everyone! Welcome to the group Bubbles! Thank you for the website Bruce!! I have forwarded it to my family.... of course qualifying it with please don't think this is a plea for sympathy..... UGHHHHHH lol Thanks again.
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11/05/2007 09:09
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you deserve sympathy!!!!!!!!

this is not a tough love disease, no chronic illness is.

If they've gone pokey pokey in your tender points & lit them up you've got it & both you & they have to learn to live with it as it's not going to go away.

They need to understand that they need to step up up to to plate because if they don't they will only hurt your with their lack of support & understanding & we all know where that can lead (see suicidal thoughts).

It's quite possible that you brother says "Hmmmmmmm" because he doesn't know what else to say. They need to be invited to share your grief but before that they need to know why you are grieving:

Buy a copy ot the Fibromyalgia Advocate by Devin Starlaynel. In the important links post of medicine & treatment section are links to amazon to buy her book and also to her website.

http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/fibromyalgia-discussions/ medicine-treatments/10021-important-links

The book contains individual pre thought out letters to you friends, immediate family, adult & small children and pretty much any health care professional you might see. They're a big help. The messages are all pretty much the same but each letter has been crafted to speak to appropriately to each audience.

Here's an example letter from the book that "Aunt-Rinn" took the time to transcribe for us last month as well as a link to the discussion thread (MPS stand for Myofascial Pain Syndrome which is also important to know about & is explained in the book:

"Letter to people that don't have FM and/or MPS:

Having FMS/MPS means many things change, and a lot of them are invisible. Unlike having cancer or being hurt in an accident, most people do not understand even a little about FMS/MPS and its effects, and of those that think they know, many are actually misinformed.

In the spirit of informing those who wish to understand ...

... These are the things that I would like you to understand about me before you judge me...

- Please understand that being sick doesn't mean I'm not still a human being. I have to spend most of my day in considerable pain and exhaustion, and if you visit I probably don't seem like much fun to be with, but I'm still me stuck inside this body. I still worry about school and work and my family and friends, and most of the time I'd still like to hear you talk about yours too.

- Please understand the difference between "happy" and "healthy". When you've got the flu you probably feel miserable with it, but I've been sick for years. I can't be miserable all the time, in fact I work hard at not being miserable. So if you're talking to me and I sound happy, it means I'm happy. That's all. It doesn't mean that I'm not in a lot of pain, or extremely tired, or that I'm getting better, or any of those things. Please, don't say, "Oh, you're sounding better!". I am not sounding better, I am sounding happy. If you want to comment on that, you're welcome.

- Please understand that being able to stand up for ten minutes, doesn't necessarily mean that I can stand up for twenty minutes, or an hour. And, just because I managed to stand up for thirty minutes yesterday doesn't mean that I can do the same today. With a lot of diseases you're either paralyzed, or you can move. With this one it gets more confusing.

- Please repeat the above paragraph substituting, "sitting", "walking", "thinking", "being sociable" and so on ... it applies to everything. That's what FMS/MPS does to you.

- Please understand that FMS/MPS is variable. It's quite possible (for me, it's common) that one day I am able to walk to the park and back, while the next day I'll have trouble getting to the kitchen. Please don't attack me when I'm ill by saying, "But you did it before!", if you want me to do something then ask if I can. In a similar vein, I may need to cancel an invitation at the last minute, if this happens please do not take it personally.

- Please understand that "getting out and doing things" does not make me feel better, and can often make me seriously worse. Telling me that I need a treadmill, or that I just need to loose (or gain) weight, get this exercise machine, join this gym, try these classes... may frustrate me to tears, and is not correct... if I was capable of doing these things, don't you know that I would? I am working with my doctor and physical therapist and am already doing the exercise and diet that I am suppose to do. Another statement that hurts is, "You just need to push yourself more, exercise harder..." Obviously FMS/MPS deals directly with muscles, and because our muscles don't repair themselves the way your muscles do, this does far more damage than good and could result in recovery time in days or weeks or months from a single activity. Also, FMS/MPS may cause secondary depression (wouldn't you get depressed if you were hurting and exhausted for years on end!?) but it is not created by depression.

- Please understand that if I say I have to sit down/lie down/take these pills now, that I do have to do it right now - it can't be put off or forgotten just because I'm out for the day (or whatever). FMS/MPS does not forgive.

- If you want to suggest a cure to me, don't. It's not because I don't appreciate the thought, and it's not because I don't want to get well. It's because I have had almost every single one of my friends suggest one at one point or another. At first I tried them all, but then I realized that I was using up so much energy trying things that I was making myself sicker, not better. If there was something that cured, or even helped, all people with FMS/MPS then we'd know about it. This is not a drug-company conspiracy, there is worldwide networking (both on and off the Internet) between people with FMS/MPS, if something worked we would KNOW.

- If after reading that, you still want to suggest a cure, then do it, but don't expect me to rush out and try it. I'll take what you said and discuss it with my doctor.

In many ways I depend on you - people who are not sick - I need you to visit me when I am too sick to go out... Sometimes I need you help me with the shopping, cooking or cleaning. I may need you to take me the the doctor, or to the physical therapist. I need you on a different level too ... you're my link to the outside world... if you don't come to visit me then I might not get to see you.

... and, as much as it's possible, I need you to understand me."

http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/fibromyalgia-discussions/ general-support/9018-fibro-letter#9018

Do order this book today - I make my usual offer if you, or anyone else here, can't afford to buy this book I will buy it for you, just PM me. It's and it's contents have been the core of my coping strategy



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11/05/2007 10:21
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What an incredible letter... as someone new to this "damn" disease myself, I think I will keep a copy of this on hand.
Things turn out best for the people who make the best of the way things turn out.
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11/05/2007 10:43
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I bought five copies of this book and gave them to my family and my doctor!
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11/05/2007 12:08
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I really like what that letter is saying, I think it sums up exactly what I am feeling. I'm lucky my boyfriend is really caring and understanding about all of it. My parents think I am crazy, but I think that they are crazy so were even. I am the one that keeps beating myself up because I could do it yesterday. I am still in denial I am not ready to admitt that there is anything that I can't do.
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