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06/23/2012 01:44 PM
MoiraWolf
MoiraWolf
 
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Well, I'm a late comer to the discussion, day late and a dollar short, as always.

I'm of two minds about this situation. On the one hand, I agree with Mouse, he's emotionally abusing you. He's guilt-tripping you into giving "it" up more often. Basically, it's "give me more sex, or I'll get it elsewhere." While at the same time saying out loud "it's your decision, but I'm trying to spare you pain."

Bullshit.

He sounds so much like my first husband.

On the other hand, I was once in an open relationship, and had my husband and my boyfriend living in my house at the same time. BOY that was interesting! (long, LONG story)

It's about trust, and love. IF everyone involved agreed, and IF no one was being harmed, then I'd have no problem with it. If Erik (my hubs) came in one day and said he'd like to get a mistress, first I'd be shocked, and second, I'd insit on meeting her. I would want to know who I was sharing with. But I really don't think I'd have much of a problem with it. But I'm definately the exception, not the rule.

I agree, he's trying to have his cake and eat it too, adn I'd get rid of him. But it's your call, not mine.

Oh yeah, one more thing... I forget who said it, but it's said that "jealousy is the fear of loosing something." Gives you something to think about.

And if I'm incoherant, it's cause I've been up over 24 hours now, and I'm very "punch drunk."

Post edited by: MoiraWolf, at: 06/23/2012 01:49 PM

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06/23/2012 01:48 PM  Top
mem6526

Personally I could not share my man. If he wants to be with someone else then he can have a happy life without me. But that is just me.

To each his own. Wink


06/29/2012 04:16 AM  Top
Colleen16
 
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Jeeze hunny, if he loved you for real it would have never been an issue. He is just saying whatever it takes to keep you. Please be smart, take care of your needs and pain first. And PLEASE don't be gullable I have a feeling that this is not all good again and will rear it's ugly head in no time. Some time apart will help clarify your feelings if he looks elsewhere during your break then you know he doesn't love you. You guys def need some time apart. He said some really nasty stuff to you in your first post that makes him seem like a selfish ass. IF HE LOVED YOU HE WOULD NEVER EVER EVEN CONSIDER ANOTHER WOMAN EVER.

06/29/2012 12:23 PM  Top
MoiraWolf
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Colleen said:

IF HE LOVED YOU HE WOULD NEVER EVER EVEN CONSIDER ANOTHER WOMAN EVER.

I disagree on purely an intellectual argument kind of way. I think men are hard-wired from evolution to try to have as many women as possible. It goes back to those days when survival of the species depended on having as many children as possible. Women were limited by pregnancy and by caring for children to needing to be with one man. But a man, not burdened by nursing or pregnancy, could breed with, and share his genetic material with, as many women as he could.

In a purely scientific way, men are hard-wired to try to mate with as many women as they can attract. One man could provide for many women, but the reverse cannot be said.

While I realize we don't live like that anymore, some men find that "addiction to sex" harder to give up than others. God knows my first husband was like that. He may not have cheated on me, but Lord and Lady knows he thought about it and looked around. Most of the time, societal "norms" and intellect are enough to overcome this evolutionary hard-wiring.

But I believe that 99% of the men out there look around and even think about sex with other women a lot of the time. I read a study once that said the average male thinks about sex something like (on average) 2-3 times an hour, wheras a woman only thinks about sex (on average) once an hour. While that doesn't seem like a lot, it does say that men are more hard-wired toward sex than women are. (Study participants were college age.)

I would agree with your statement with the caveat that "If he loves you he'd never cheat on you." Becuase that's true, our intellect can override our baser instincts. But to not "consider" another woman... I have to disagree with that statement, just because I think men are evolved to want it.

Now, all that said, I'm not trying to argue... well, yes, I am, but in a "intellectual discourse" kind of way, not ARGUING if you know what I mean!

Anyone want to disagree in that same "intellectual discourse" kind of way?

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06/30/2012 07:29 AM  Top
Rayfenn
 
Posts: 8
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Hey Moira,

I actually agree with your intellectual argument. That is why I try to stand by him it this situation. And Colleen, we have spend time apart earlier, when the sex issue was way worse, and he didn't go to someone else, because he loved me too much and couldn't be with anyone else.

I know that it was wrong of him to ask me this, and he knows now too. But in his words:

You don't know how much it hurts me to see you in pain over something I want.

And it is true, I don't know how it feels to see me like this. I thought I was a better actress though, I thought he didn't notice. Guess I'm not that smart either. In the 5 years we have been together he never cheated, and there were times that I could do nothing at all.

His intellect has won over his basic insticts, but let's be honest ladies. Men think about sex in a different way then us. I can't see love and sex without each other, and most men can.

But anyway, it is all in the past. I choose to stand by him, and we are happy.

xxx

It's easy to give up, and hard to go on.
The path that you choose, will determine who you will become...

12/07/2012 06:22 PM  Top
Fmsdaddy
Fmsdaddy
 
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Glad to hear it all worked out. If we have learned anything from this its not jump the gun on things to fast. It is very difficult for everyone involved to deal with this illness. For men, its very difficult to express how we feel regardless... let alone when someone we love is ill.
My family being supportive of me is the best medicine in the world.
I suffer from CFS FMS GAD GERD BIPOLAR ADHD and IBS so far.

Nothing I say should ever be taken as medical advice and proper care should be taken only by a trained professional. However I speak from experience and from my own studies and my advice is intended to help.

05/04/2013 04:31 AM  Top
Hazey420
Hazey420
 
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Omg! dont feel bad I havent had sex in what 3 years now and dont really miss it or care for it. I have had fms for almost 20 years now and my man is leaving me for a person who is not sick and he is moving cross country to do it, At this point in my life I dont need a man the only thing the last thing I was holding onto was trust and he ruined that after 20 years so what does that say about him. For right now just worry about you, but would i let him cheat, I thought mine would never cheat and look what happens. It is what it is, you live with it through it and move on if you can.
"Instead of taking five or six of the prescriptions, I decided to go a natural route and smoke marijuana".

05/04/2013 04:37 AM  Top
Rayfenn
 
Posts: 8
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Hey Hazey420,

I am sorry to hear that your man left you like that. I was surprised to see a comment, I had already forgotten about this post. However, I did think of myself, we talked it over and we reached a compromise that works for both of us. And well, if he cheats he can pack his bags, and I told him that.

The relationship got much better...haha I almost said butter...and that is because I stood up for myself.

Again, really sorry to hear what your husband has done to you. Makes you wonder if how strong people actually are doesn't it?

It's easy to give up, and hard to go on.
The path that you choose, will determine who you will become...
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