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07/12/2012 12:03 PM
Meg1129
Meg1129Posts: 11234
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"I have an ex who in retrospect, it was only once I’d gotten as far away as possible from him, did I truly acknowledge what an abusive situation it was brewing up to be. Long time readers may recall that he’s the one that drove like a maniac ranting in a jealous rage, got caught out, lied, called me a psycho, and turned out to actually be lying, and also slammed a door at me, hitting my wrist. Obviously I was still there, so I hadn’t judged the situation adequately. Yet.

No, I judged it when he was shouting at me and being very aggressive and I asked him to stop. He then cowered on the floor covering his head, and mimicking what he imagined was me as a child he said “Oh pretty please! It’s scaring me! I don’t like it when mummy and daddy fight!” and then sort of did that maniac laugh like at the end of the Thriller video. I literally went cold and it was like reality slapped me in the face. Within 48 hours, we were over and my flight was booked.

There were too many situations with him where I could and should have judged the situation and hit my eject button but denying, rationalising, minimising and even wondering what I had done to ‘provoke’ this in him, kept me hanging around for far too long – this man displayed anger issues the first time we met, yet went from “angry asshole” to boyfriend material…

Older and wiser, I’m not afraid to judge a situation because it helps me to make decisions and also keeps me safe, plus enables me to live authentically and happily. What worries me is that the more I read about what could be viewed as ‘objections’ to having boundaries, to distancing from inappropriate situations, and even calling a spade a spade, is the more I recognise that people who aren’t making judgements about situations or even a person’s behaviour have a problem with appearing judgemental and conversely with thinking that their judgement has more power than it does.

Judgement: The ability to make considered decisions or come to sensible conclusions. (source Oxford English Dictionaries)

This is a fundamental part of life. Whether you recognise it or not, you make decisions (not always considered…) and come to conclusions (not always sensible) every single day. When I walk to the pedestrian crossing, I look left and right and judge that it’s safe to walk.

When I’ve opted out of relationships, often after I’ve flogged that donkey till it collapses, I’ve judged the situation which includes me, them, and the combined result, and decided that it no longer works for me.

To judge/pass judgement: To criticise or condemn someone from a position of assumed moral superiority.

Another meaning for judgement: A misfortune or calamity viewed as divine punishment.

If you avoid making decisions, it means you avoid making judgements. If you at the same time get your knickers in a knot about how you may be perceived as ‘judgemental’, you’re mixing up your meanings! You also have the inverted ego issues that can have you make other people’s actions about you. Just like how we often give to people what we hope to get back, how you feel about judgement says a lot about you.

You don’t make ‘judgements’ because you don’t want people to make judgements about you, which is also trying to control the uncontrollable. You likely see it as rejection. The ridiculous thing is that all this worrying is a waste – they’re going ahead with their own lives and making their own judgements even though they may not be specifically criticising or condemning you from a position of moral superiority or laying down divine punishment – not everything is about you.

You can still use your intelligence, gut, instincts, common sense, eyes, ears, nose, boundaries etc to make judgments that enable you to get on with your life in a healthy, happy manner by opting you into what works, and opting you out of what doesn’t.

If it helps you to feel better, forget the word ‘judgement’ and replace it with ‘decision’; you may not like it but you still have to do it. A life without decisions is stagnation.

Long time reader Grace with her straight to the point, often hilarious comments said on my last post:

“You kick a dog. The dog runs. In what way has that dog judged you?” Amen.

If you lure the dog back with a piece of meat, stroke it for a bit, and then kick it and it runs off again as it rightly should, and doesn’t come back no matter what you throw at it, still in what way has it judged you?

You kicked the dog twice and even went to the trouble of wooing it back – common sense would suggest it would be foolhardy to go anywhere near you again. The dog has instinctively backed off for its own self-preservation and senses the danger. Yeah maybe when it gets down the street, it has a think to itself and judges the situation and maybe even calls you a twat, but really, what has that dog done to you lately? It certainly hasn’t judged you, even though it probably should. By the way, if this situation sounds vaguely familiar to you even though you’re not a dog, just swap in being lured back to a relationship with some Future Faking and sex…

I hate to break it to you, but you’re not God, a higher power, a county court or whatever judge, or even Judge Judy, so basically whatever you think about or even deem someone to be when you tell them all about themselves (clicks fingers in front of face with attitude), really your judgement has limited impact.

It’s not like if you judge someone, that as soon as the thought occurs or you say it, that lightening strikes them, you put a curse on them, or that every media outlet within a 100 mile radius starts printing out newspapers, putting posters up in the streets, and pumping out articles on the net making your judgement public. They’re not going to be ostracised, struck down with the clap, or branded – it’s just your opinion that pertains to you.

It is incredibly egotistical to believe that you ‘can’t’ make judgements for fear of how it may affect the person because you automatically come from a place of being superior. Get off your pedestal because if you don’t, you’re a hop, skip, and a jump to being a Florence.

All you have to do is judge the situation and yes, at times, that may involve judging someones actions or their character, not because you think you’re superior to them, but because if you don’t, you may allow your vagina/penis/ego/lack of self-esteem/desire for status/desire to be the exception to the norm/betting on potential, or whatever, blind you or even put you in harms way.

Sometimes you’ve got to call a spade a spade. Yes their ego might be a bit dented but don’t inflate yourself and think that their life won’t be able to go on because you have judged yourself out of a situation with them. You can judge a situation without being judgemental – it doesn’t mean you’re ‘better’ than them but it does know that you know what’s best for yourself.

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07/12/2012 12:59 PM  Top
mazzymylove
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Love it! I agree completely... As I read your post, I saw many people that I know or have known in the past including myself.. *I used to know that person inside of me that didn't like to "judge" my husband for his behaviors because I thought everyone has issues* little did I know when I was 24 that he didn't just have issues "this man is dangerous" I failed to see the red flags.... Actually, I did see them but I dismissed them and down played them.. Knowing who I am now and what I am worth I am more than ok with making a judgement call on someones behavior and what is exceptable and what isn't... This keeps us safe and out of harms way- the very thing we lacked to acknowledge when dating/marrying our abuser.. Another thing to add is once the abuse starts it always goes one step furthur..

I hope that in the future after reading Bancrofts book and staying connected on MDJ and several support groups I will know exactly what to look for and point out easily what I dismissed in the past.

This is a new journey and for now my goal is keeping my daughter and self and baby in the womb safe from him.

Mazzy

07/12/2012 06:00 PM  Top
miranda17
miranda17Posts: 325
Member

Great post! I think when I was able to break it down to - His words and actions don't match - then I was able to see that this wasn't healthy. I know that I am not perfect but I also know that my intentions weren't to cause him anger and to have explosive outbursts. When he tried to make it seem like I was the cause - or money, or stress, or whatever - I always wondered how his BEST option always seemed to come down to yelling at me??? That also told me this wasn't healthy. It finally came down to - people that WANT you in their lives don't treat you like that. If I am seeing anger and hearing yelling - then he doesn't want ME (as in the person I am on the inside).

That was enough for me. Whether it was his inability to handle his feelings or the fact that I wasn't what he thought he was getting - it wasn't in my power to change that. I had other things to take care of that were more important at that moment. Imagine that - I put getting my house sold and saving my credit over HIM. Ha,ha,ha.

The funny part is that I'm sure he is telling the people he knows that I'm a crazy, drug addict and he had to kick me out. That just occurred to me the other day. Knowing the lies abusers tell - I'm sure that he has some amazing lies to tell about me. Oh well - whatever makes his little world spin!


07/12/2012 11:07 PM  Top
Meg1129
Meg1129Posts: 11234
Group Leader

Below are the lyrics to Kelly Clarkson's song You Love Me. I'll bet you can really relate to them. I know I can. (BTW, her whole album "Stronger" which this song is on is dedicated to abuse victims. Every song on it is about getting stronger and getting out.)

Thick skin, soft touch

Heart of gold but it's n-n-n-not enough

Forgiving arms, the higher road

Working hard but it's n-n-n-not enough

You said I'm not good enough

I'm not good enough

But what you really mean is

You're not good enough

You're not good enough

You can't deliver so you turn it around

[Chorus]

You didn't let me down, you didn't tear me apart

You just opened up my eyes while breaking my heart

You didn't do it for me, I'm not as dumb as you think

You just made me cry

While claiming that you love me, you love me, you love me

You said you love me but that I'm not good enough I'm not good enough

Strong hold, a fun ride

But rollercoasters are just n-n-n-not enough

I keep it in, you wear me out

This kind of love is n-n-n-not enough

You said I'm just a sinking ship

I'm just a sinking ship

But what that really means is

You can't handle this

You can't handle this

You couldn't win and so you turn it around

[Chorus]

You didn't let me down, you didn't tear me apart

You just opened up my eyes while breaking my heart

You didn't do it for me, I'm not as dumb as you think

You just made me cry

While claiming that you love me, you love me, you love me

You said you love me but that I'm not good enough I'm not good enough

Your love feels different

It's like a blow to the head with your compliments

Your love hurts deeper

It's like a brick in the sea and I'm drowning with it

[Chorus]

You didn't let me down, you didn't tear me apart

You just opened my eyes while breaking my heart

You didn't do it for me, I'm not as dumb as you think

You just made me cry

While claiming that you love me, you love me, you love me

You said you loved me but that I'm not good enough

I'm not good enough

So understand that it means nothing when you say you love me

When you say you love me

When you say you love me, you love me, you love me

[Chorus]

You didn't let me down, you didn't tear me apart

You just opened up my eyes while breaking my heart

You didn't do it for me, I'm not as dumb as you think

You just made me cry

While claiming that you love me, you love me, you love me

You know the truth is that you're not good enough

You're not good enough

Read more: KELLY CLARKSON - YOU LOVE ME LYRICS http://www.metrolyrics.com/you-love-me-lyrics-kelly- clarkson.html#ixzz20To6BdRG

Copied from MetroLyrics.com

Post edited by: Meg1129, at: 07/12/2012 11:07 PM


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07/13/2012 09:02 AM  Top
miranda17
miranda17Posts: 325
Member

I have this CD - didn't even know it was dedicated to abuse victims. I remember hearing "Stronger" on the radio when I was still living with my abuser and wondered why I didn't feel like that stronger person that I used to be? I literally felt it slipping away from me. Still thought it was just stress. Still didn't have the thought that his behavior was making me shut down and become less than who I am.

When I realize that things like a song by Kelly Clarkson, my own instincts and the wisdom of people that have been there are all just as close as HIS angry words, unpredictable outbursts and moments of (what to call it?) caring - all I had to do was listen.

Maybe that is why he yelled - he wanted to be stronger than the thoughts in my own head. Than my own reasoning and judgment. It was the ability to focus and to put my well being before 'his relationship to me' that helped me. If I can struggle under the fear and confusion caused by him - I can struggle on my own without it.


07/13/2012 10:33 AM  Top
Meg1129
Meg1129Posts: 11234
Group Leader

Every song on that CD is about overcoming abuse! I love it and listen to it often.

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