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11/25/2007 19:03
callme2crazy
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I have type II diabetes as a side effect from a medication called Seroquel which is used to treat bipolar mood disorder. This is the only medication in a very long list that has worked for me so it is essential that I continue taking this med. Doctors can't tell me if my diabetes will go away if I quit taking Seroquel but I know I will be sick if I quit taking it.

I have also gained 30 pounds, give or take, also a side effect of Seroquel. It isn't known if the diabetes is from the med itself or the weight gain which is all belly fat.

I take Metformin in a pretty high dose and it works quite well for me. Others I have tried include Glipizide and Glipizide XL. I also find if I have a blood sugar spike that heart rate raising exercise in a short burst will drop my sugars as much as 100 points, which is truly amazing.

What works for you?

Dee
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11/25/2007 21:33
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Hi Dee,

welcome back my friend

FYI - Dee was the first to ask us for this group.

best,

roy

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11/26/2007 02:43
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Hi, Dee, and thanks for asking for this group, I am Carmen, type 2 for over 7 years now. I am on the metiformin too, one of the first medications that I was prescribed, 1000 mg per day, along with glipzide, and Actos, has your doctor tried you on the actos yet? I take 15mg once aday in the mornings, it is suppose to help your body better use the insulin that it does make. it's worked better for me than the other two alone.

How long have you been diagnosed? exercise is a wonderful thing for bringing down the sugars, have you been able to find out what is causing the spikes? have you had a recent HA1C? and if so what were your readings?

Sorry for all the questions, just would like to get a idea of where you are, I have mine done every three months, here about a year ago, I had ran out of all my meds for diabetes, and my HA1C had went to 10, I got my meds refilled and started taking them like they should be taken, and it is now down around 6.5, like the ADA wants, 6 to 6.5.

I too have had a weight gain, although mine was from getting clean and sober and having a chocolate shake rather than going for a drink...lol..not a medication.

exercise and diet can help you to lose those extra pounds and while it might not take away the diabetes, it could help slow it down some.

Thanks for being here.

Carmen



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11/26/2007 03:20
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Hi Dee I'm Karen. I am on Actos alone. When I was first diagnosed they tried me on Glucotrol but I was so sensitive that I could go from a sugar of 200 + down to the 60's in 2 hours. The actos as Carmen said works differently and has less trouble with big swings in your sugars. Exercise in consistant amounts will help stabelize your sugars as well as following a consistant diet. Of course that said I'm really bad about doing it even though I know how important it is. I'm glad you joined the group I come from the fibro site. Carmen has posted a wealth of information here.
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11/26/2007 10:20
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Hey Karen, glad to have you posting here, we need all the help that we can get, I've found with the diabetes medications, that if I don't eat within a decent time after taking them in the mornings, then I have more of a chance of going hypo.

I generally have coffee, then with the second cup, I have toast to go along with it, and then about 2 hours later will have some breakfast, the only thing besides a large breakfast that I have found that will stick around for any amount of time, is oatmeal... good thing that I love it.

Dee & Karen, what do you carry with you, for those times you can't get to food, and you sense that your sugar is dropping? I carry glucose tablets, they have the little purse size packages, and I just refill that from the big bottles, some folks on some of my other groups, carry those little cake decorating tubes of icing for a quick pick me up.

If you haven't found it yet, we have a recipe exchange here on the group site, please post any recipes that you have, it is wonderful to share those with each other.

Carmen

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11/26/2007 16:13
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Stupidly I don't carry anything. I used to carry those little cheese and cracker packets but after cleaning the crumbs out of my purse too many times I quit. Carmen It is typical to have a reation like you describe with some medications. those that are ment to actually lower your sugar should be taken with an actual meal. things like Actos that desensitize the way your body reacts to sugar don't need to. He are some tips I've learned.

1. Did anyone ever tell you that coffee will decrease your blood sugar? In moderation it's not to big of a problem if your like me there is no moderation with coffee. So I have to be careful if I drink too much in the morning I will gaurentee have a hypo reaction by 10:00-10:30am

2. If your unable to eat too much breakfast try adding in some protien. Put peanutbutter on your toast or add a piece of cheese. The protein will help to maintain your level longer than just a carb.

3. When using fast sugar like your tablets always follow it with some type of snack as soon as you can to keep your sugar stable. If you don't you have a higher risk of a rebound reaction.

As far as recipes I unfortuately am not a cook. I make one meal a year and that was last Thursday. beyond that my house is much safer when I stay ourt of the kitchen. But I will be looking through yours to see what my husband should try lol

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11/26/2007 16:22
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Thanks for the great tips, I hadn't realized that coffee could do that too you, I know what you mean about the cracker crumbs in the bottom of the purse, been there and dumped them out myself.. I've had to learn the hard way about the glucose tabs... they work great for just a bit, and after that, I am in trouble, the lowest that I have had my sugar go was like 55 which I know is dangerous territory. The highest has been 450+ and that was caused by a reaction to a medication.

I wasn't really a cook till I took it up as self protection from a abusive husband, he would not mess with me with a hot cast iron skillet in my hand...since then I have come to love it. But even not being a cook, you can still contribute to the recipe site, just dig around on line and find recipes that would sound good to you to have the hubby make, and share them with us, your hubby might not appreciate this idea, but it works for me...lol.

Carmen



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11/26/2007 16:40
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well I can understand why you needed to learn to cook than. As

far as the glucose tabs. I haven't used them myself but the whole thing is to get the sugar up quick. If you are not able to follow it with something more substantal your sugar justs yoyos It will go up then come down even lower than it started. I also learned that the hard way. The coffee thing I learned from a lab tech. Some places will tell you you can have coffee before fasting lab work as long as it has no cream or sugar. One tech wouldn't take my blood because I had the coffee. It has something to do with the caffiene

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11/26/2007 18:52
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I never heard that about not doing it cause of coffee, I've always considered the fasting test to be just that, fasting, nothing but maybe a sip of water or so..generally I don't even take my meds prior to going, I have them and a soda or something out in the car till I can get some food.
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01/15/2008 17:59
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Hey guys, sorry I have not been keeping up with this thread. I'm having some other health problems that are keeping my attention away from the site.

I take Metformin alone, 1000 mg twice a day, and my last HA1C was 6.2. I too have blood work every three months and I came down from a 7.2.

The problem I am having is hyperthyroidism and it was wrecking my ability to keep my blood sugar under control. Metformin is very strong and effect medicine.

I am not familiar with Actos? Is this the inhaler? I do not need insulin, so far, and I hope to keep it that way.

I just learned that gastric bypass surgery has the added effect of reducing and eliminating the need for diabetic medication in some cases. Apparently in a good number of the cases, according to the news report I was watching. Has anyone else heard this one?

Dee
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