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05/12/2008 14:05
sallie
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I am pretty new to all of this stuff, even tho I have been and am still co dependent. at any rate, I had to go thru an interview and a brief evaluation at Kaiser to get into a 6 month co dependent GROUP counseling. This covers both individual counseling and GROUP and they touch on 6 different things withing the 6 months. I also have to be CLEAN...not even alcohol. darn darn...I like my wine. at any rate, I wanted to share this with you guys. Probably most of you are in some form of group or counseling program.

And, another thing is that when I told her my situation in more detail with my kids, she said to me well, I can tell already you have changed, because of one thing: I said, what is that? she said, because they are ALL MAD AT YOU!!! no one is talking to YOU, and that does mean, you have changed something...maybe not allowing them to kick you around any longer!!!!! She said the longer they stay mad, the better it actually is. It is hard to explain here, but she made perfect sense of it.

I know I start to get weak, but this program will be helpful.

Any of you out there who are feeling the need for addition support, might look into this. There is also Co dependent group meetings in most areas that are not associated with any type of Health Program. Mine is, however, but there are others out there. Thanks for letting me share this with you. Have a great day, and stay strong!

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05/12/2008 14:32
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Thanks for sharing...had a chuckle at the "they are all mad at you"

part...that is so true. If people are dependent on you it makes them mad at first when they have to do things for themselves. Or when we allow people to kick us around and we start saying NO!!!!

Good for you for going to the counseling...i miss my alcohol too, especially the wine...but, I don't miss the hangovers...and my liver sent me a Thank You Card...hugs, Norma

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05/12/2008 19:18
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Your liver sent you a thank you note? wow, you have one very special liver, there, Norma!!!! Loved it. that was so cute

I am glad you have that under your control and no longer Need your drink, or whatever. I told her I like the taste...and she looked at me as tho that was a REAL problem...geeezzzz. but we shall see...6 mo. is a long long time not to have a few glasses of wine.

How are you doing? hope things are ok for you, and thanks for the feedback and support. Oh, and did I mention here that I mentioned this site and she at first said she did not know of it, then said..oh yes yes, I do know it!!!!

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05/13/2008 18:21
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Well, I will be more than happy to have a glass of wine for each of you, Norma and Sallie, but solely for support I too like my wine, and although I dont think of it as an addiction, I find myself not being able to fall asleep without a glass or two at night. I wish I could find other ways to knock myself out as effectively

Thanks for the information Sallie, I think I may look into something here like you have mentioned.

One question, I have only read about co-dependency on the threads posted here, and I am confused as to whether it refers to a person's need to be a "people pleaser", where they cannot say no to anything, or a person's need to control/be in control of others.

Either way, I have tendencies in both areas, and it really confuses me.......

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05/13/2008 19:39
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It is both the need to please other people to the point where we are doing things for that purpose. And co-dependency is also the desire to control other people by doing things for them they should do for themselves...mea culpa I have been guilty of both.....and have to make sure and check my motives often.
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05/13/2008 19:43
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Hey , Sallie...i am still getting used to this leader thing...and miss some of the posts in my mailbox...i am sorry it took me so long to reply...No I don't miss the drinking....except for the wine...with dinner.

When i drink wine I break out in hives that make me look like i have some rare, fatal, disfiguring disease. I call it Pinot Noir revenge...

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05/13/2008 19:43
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i was going to defer to Norma. yes...i think you are right it also is desiring to control someone...but not in a "mean" sense of controller...I think that is the difference between a controller and co dependent? I am not sure. Norma????
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05/13/2008 19:48
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It is not mean at all, sallie...you are right. It is the desire to control either out of love or power. That doesn't mean you can't do something nice for someone you love...but, if you are doing things that they should be doing themselves so they become dependent on you, I think that is the problem. It is the motive you have even if it is not a conscious motive.
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05/13/2008 19:49
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hives? that is no fun.

well today, my drug addicted (or he claim he is cured) son came by when i was not here to pick up a copy of a document. I also left two bags of food...I knew this was NOT something the counselors would say I should have done under the particular situation, but I could not help myself...but this kid...I was curious to see...and I figured this is what he would do....he did NOT take them...left them there. I could not give him birthday gift cards either because I would not hand them over, I said I would meet him at the place....and he was insulted, and bla bla bla....now, this does not sound normal....I have not even seen this son for a bit more than a year now. We lived only about 4 miles apart for about a year, but he refuses phone calls, everything. I know he continues to try to hurt me. I won't give (or try) to give food again. I felt I was kicked, yet again, in the stomach.

I just hand it over to God. all I can do. see the co dependent wants to rescue the person, and do all kinds of things, and coerce them into changing, etc. etc....controlling the situation. controlling the outcome.

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05/13/2008 19:51
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ok, that helps me!!! thanks Norma!!!
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