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09/16/2008 23:59
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I read the advice about letting go, letting addicts decide for themselves, and I feel faint. My chest tightens and aches and my eyes sting with tears. I understand the words, I even believe their logic; I'm just not ready to let go. I can't stop hoping that, if I love him enough or find the right words or help him find enough fulfillment, I can keep him from his addiction. And I want to believe his promises of sobriety, even when I can see right through them. I want to hold on to his promises and my hopes and to him. This is so very hard.
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09/17/2008 19:15
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yes it is, very hard and heartbreaking. You will be better off and happier, but I'll say you might not forget him either. An addict sucks you in and will use you as long as you let him. He'sll use any tactic to keep the status quo and then go back to it. I had to love him enough to leave him. It was up to him to give it up and I found that no amount of love and caring was going to cure him. He had to want to cure himself. It took him years to do it but on his third wife, he did give it up.

Lori

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09/18/2008 00:56
LiLz
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Thank you, Lori. Wow ... "an addict will use you as long as you let him" ... that's profound - in the pain it brings and, I'm sure, in its truth. My own selfishness or codependence, I guess, needs to believe him when he tells me he loves me. I suppose he could be lying, but I don't think so ... it's just that he loves being high and has a physical addiction that causes pain when he doesn't maintain it. He's created quite a mess, but I don't think he's emotionally dead ... not yet. I sometimes wish I could be for a while, though.
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09/19/2008 22:33
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Lilz,

You must watch the t.v. program "Intervention", which I believe is on A&E. This program depicts every type of addict. I've noticed how all addicts take advantage of their loved ones, some of which are enablers (co-dependents).

Words will not fulfill him, and his promises will usually lead to lies, over and over again.

You are the only person who can take a stance to end the cycle for yourself. He needs help too, but you have to decide for yourself what is it you want out of this relationship. How do you feel when he's high on Oxys? I'm sure it's not a good feeling.

I've read that pill addiction is one of the worst addictions. He may have created this "mess", but I see you are still in the mess with him. What good is that?

He may not be emotionally dead now, but he may be dead later down the road.

Don't be a giraffe and get your head out of the sand. This isn't going to get any better without some type of intervention on your part or his and it sounds as if he's not going to make the first move.

What I'm trying to say is act in a way where you won't have any regrets later down the long road that follows.

Please consider counseling if not for both of you, but for just yourself.

It will help you in the long run...

Good luck!

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09/20/2008 12:20
LiLz
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Thanks so much. I appreciate you, especially today. I'm having a rough day today ... He went through rehab once and sometimes I know he does pretty well, but lately I know I've seen pill fragments coming out of his nose. Of course he denies it and he gets really defensive. I think he's balancing Oxy with Aderall, so he seems fairly "normal" - I wish I knew where he gets this stuff. There are times when he seems clear, then there are others when he's mean or slurs words or like now when he disconnects. The problem today is that he's traveling on business so we have a large physical distance between us ... and he just found out that a friend of his was in a bad accident. This friend also happens to be his sponsor. He's really upset and now he isn't answering his phone. I'm terrified. I go to 12-step meetings and lately I've had several friends point out that I'm letting my life go way out of balance. He's becoming my only point of reference, so he may as well be my addiction. I'm going to strive to gain some perspective and be stronger. I just know I can't walk away and that, if he calls me I'll be at his side. I do watch Intervention when I catch it and I admire the strength of the family members. And I wonder if I'll ever reach the point they're at. And, of course, I pray that he'll come off the drugs again before we reach that point. Maybe I'm crazy.
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09/20/2008 14:38
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an addict to a codependent is a codependent's addiction.

I'm sure you wish you knew where he was getting the stuff from, unfortunately it's probably not just out of curiousity or concern, but a way to try and stop him getting the pills. Even if you did find out where he's getting the stuff from, there's always another place he would be able to get more. A piece of advice that helped me out when my loved one's addiction was active was that - an addict is always two steps ahead of you so trying to stop where their supply comes from is not possible.

Also, as hard and uncaring as this sounds, grief and loss are not valid reasons to drink - rather they are excuses.

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09/20/2008 14:40
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Valid reasons to drink or use, I should say.

Try doing something for yourself today - even if it's 5 minutes, just to stop the crazy making behavior that addiction causes - for the addict and the codependent.

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09/21/2008 13:07
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Thanks Metalynn ... I'm trying. I went to my 12-Step Meeting this morning then I went shopping and bought cleaning supplies so I can start getting the house in order. I spend way too much time sitting by the phone and computer just in case he needs something and I'm realizing that ... I'm having trouble breathing because of the stress, which is crazy! I even made a commitment to go see a screening of a friend's short film tonight ... I don't really want to because I'm worried he'll need me, but you know what? I'm going to anyway because I've got to break this insane cycle. This is so hard. I gave up drinking 4 months ago ... this is harder.
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