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03/21/2012 06:25 AM
Shajen
 
Posts: 26
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My husband started bleeding last June. He vomited blood, wanted to ignore it, but I did not; we ended up in the er with an n/g tube down his throat. It was confirmed that he had varicees and he was told never to drink and we were sent home. (To be honest, we did not really believe the diagnosis of drinking. He was only 37 at the time!) He -mostly- stayed off vodka and just had the occasional beer.

In Oct, he had another bleed and did ignore it until he passed out while trying to urinate. He lost 80% of his blood. Again, they said varicees, but sent us home and told him not to drink.

In late Nov, he had a small bleed, but went immediatley to the er (a different hospital). They banded him. A few weeks later, the dr said he looked "significantly, significantly, significantly better". He then flew to AZ for a job. (As far as I knew, there had been no drinking and he promised that there would not be any in AZ.)

On Feb 5th, he called and told me that he "popped". I hardly spoke to him from that point till the sedated him the next day for the scope. They rebanded him and kept him under sedation to keep him from vomiting. Apparently he kept bleeding (remember I am across the country) and they needed my permission to do the TIPS proceedure, which I gave after reading the wikipedia article. Little knowing that he really had a 50/50 chance of making it. I have never experience such a degree of terror as I did that day. He made it through the proceedure and I flew out the next day.

After a month of not seeing him, I was shocked at his jaundice and his ascites. You could not even see the knuckles on his hands. The nurses said it was because of all the IV drips but they were wrong.

He made it out (the confusion was just awful) and we are now home after a week of recovery out of the hospital.

He is on lactolouse, which gives him constant diareaha. He has lost 35lbs in a month. Now, a lot of that was the water - he was on meds to make him urinate and lose the ascites - but still. He looks like awalking skeleton - except for his stomach which is still distended.

All in all, he is alive and walking around. Which since I thought he would be dead on the table is a blessing.

We are coming close to the typical time when he starts bleeding again. (About every two months.) With the TIPS proceedure, he should never bleed again, but still, I am scared. I am so scared. I just wait for the phone call to come. I just wait for the phone call to come.

He has a check up on the 26, but it is now, it is today that I am worried about. The 26th may never come.

Please - - does anyone know - - can it get better? Is there a chance for normalicy? Does the terror ever cease?

Shajen

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03/21/2012 08:03 AM  Top
dmanflan
dmanflan
 
Posts: 1516
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Hey Shajen!

Welcome to the group! I'm so sorry that we have to "meet" under such circumstances! You've come to the right place to ask questions--we have many wonderful members who have liver disease due to a variety of causes. People who have abused alcohol can significantly, significantly, significantly improve if they completely abstain from all types of alcohol, including some cold and cough medicines and most mouthwashes. This needs to be a life-long abstention!

Once banded, varicies need to be monitored and often banded again, depending on the patient. Medication is also prescribed to help lower blood pressure to help keep the pressure in veins around the esophagus. The TIPS procedure is also intended to reduce the pressure, but he might still bleed again so you are right to keep a vigilant watch on bleeds from either end (oral/anal).

Lactulose should give a "loose" stool but not totally like diarrhea. Check the dosage with his doctor. BTW, two questions: 1) is one of his doctors a "hepatologist" (specializes in all things liver); and 2) have he signed HIPAA release statements so that his doctors can talk to you about his care?

So, the answer to your question is: Yes, it can get better! I always tell newly diagnosed people or their caregivers to educate themselves as best they can about this scary disease. Read thru all the old posts and member diary entries here on MDJ. Also, visit our website www.mysickliver.weebly.com. Keep coming back, we're here to help!

Dennis

Dennis

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"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." -Groucho Marx

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03/21/2012 09:23 AM  Top
kware
Posts: 106
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I understand your terror. My hubby was diagnosed in August last year, had a bleed in January and has had 13 varices banded since October. He is scheduled for another EGD in April 3, so I am praying he will not have anymore. Of course, they put him on a blood pressure med, but if his pulse is under 60 he can't take it. He has always had perfect blood pressure. It is like waiting on the ball to drop, out of the blue. Just make sure he keeps getting scoped and banded, if the need arises.

I will keep you both in my prayers.


03/21/2012 10:25 AM  Top
ruth8890
ruth8890
 
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Welcome Shagen! Ru here - I joined this site in Jan 2012 and it has been a God-Send.

I'm 49- have Cirrhosis from drinking. Went from Fatty Liver to Cirrhosis in about 6 months probably b/c I kept drinking. Not something to play with as Fatty Liver may be reversible and Cirrhosis is NOT. I thought 49 was pretty young - Insidious Disease - knows no gender, age, etc. Many here have auto-immune causes and other causes...un-related to drinking.

Dennis told you great info as will others. Be SURE to check out the pictures under Misc on mysicklicerweebly.com. I had ascites (fluid in the abdomen) yet I wanted to share with you that after one hospital stay me legs sweled the size of elephants and it WAS due to the IV's....so...the Nurse "might" have been correct. I lost that swelling with time - the ascites with Lasix. Not everyone responds to the Lasix so I count my blessings that I did.

I also wanted to let you know that you can click on a person's name and it will shoot you to their profile (which is so helfpul to read -a face and sotry behind the name- and when you feel like it you might want to be sure have one there too Smile). The guidelines will help tell you about Private Messages etc. and the search box in the upper right hand corner can let you read discussions about specific things.

Again Welsome and we're all here for you and your husband! Ru

P.S. BTW - after not drinking anything for 6 months I feel like a new person. The right medication combo and eating well etc...amazing! Hard to belive the poison of alcohol and I LOVED my Ginger Brandy (1 pint a day). But I LOVE being CLEAN and as healthy as I can be! I go for a Liver Transplant Evaluation March 27th - IF i make it on the list thht will be good even though I'm the healthiest I can be with Cirrhosis at this time but as you know the disease can flip up so fast! With the long wait time and lack of organs my Doctor wants me to try to get on this list now. (Sorry for any tpos - really tired today and didn't spel check in my email before posting here)

Remember this: "HOPE is a good thing. Maybe the best of things" (from the move Shawshank Redemption). There's ALWAYS hope!

My Dad: "Remember, it's always Darkest before the Dawn"

NOTE: for those who don't know, if you click on a member's Moniker it'll shoot you to their profile and you can get to know more about the person behind the unique avatars.

03/21/2012 09:10 PM  Top
mpmom
mpmom
 
Posts: 3275
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Shajen,

The others gave you good advice.

I would ad that the TIPS procedure can increase Encephalopathy So watch him for increased confusion. Also sometimes the stints can become clogged and have to be cleaned or replaced.

It can take a long time for the body to recover from the effects of alcohol even a couple of years. some patients are sick enough to be placed on the transplant list and then get well enough to come off the list and live a normal life.

Living healthy is the only thing we can do for ourselves.

Keep copies of ALL test results it will help you track his progress.

Gail
Good friends are like angels.
You don't have to see them to know they are there.

03/22/2012 06:56 AM  Top
sadlystillsane
sadlystillsane
 
Posts: 928
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Thinking of you and sending positive energy.

Stick around, you just made about 700 new friends who are here to help support you!

Take your time to smell the roses, and always follow your heart.

03/22/2012 07:07 AM  Top
Shajen
 
Posts: 26
New Member

Thank you, all of you, so much. I acutallly do feel a bit better.

We do not have a hep doc, we really just have a GI. Our situation is complicated b/c he does not have insurance and although I have only a 40 week contract at work, I somehow still make too much money for state care. The docs are actually trying to help, so hopefully something will work.

As for the Lactulose; he is only on 15ml, but it makes him nauseous and have to go to the bathroom all day long. We cant leave the house without planning restroom stops. The doc was going to put him on something else, but a one month rx was $1300!! (That one made me laugh.)

And I am aware of the Encephalopathy (even if I cannot pronounce it!). His ammonia was up before the lactulose and that was just scary. So I know what to look for...except I re-examine EVERYTHING he says to make sure it makes sense.

But thank you again. I have to say that all the docs and nurses acted as though we were 'dirty' for having an alcohol related disease, but it is not something I advertise with friends/people I work with. There is such a stigma, and they would not understand. Just because he, with the rest of the world, drank, does not make him a bad person and unworthy of support. So being able to talk here is just huge.

Blessing, prayers, hopes and hugs to you all. Thank you for your welcome.


Previous discussions I participated in:
Anyone NOT GET ON THE LIST b/c MELD=10?

03/22/2012 07:09 AM  Top
Shajen
 
Posts: 26
New Member

I actually meant to say the the docs and nurses did NOT act as though we were dirty. They have actually been really fantastic.

Sorry about that!!!!!


Previous discussions I participated in:
Anyone NOT GET ON THE LIST b/c MELD=10?

03/22/2012 07:22 AM  Top
dachsiefan
dachsiefan
 
Posts: 388
Member

Shagen,

was the expensive drug Xifaxan by any chance? If so, go to Www.Salix.com. They have a patient assistance program for those who do not have insurance and cannot afford the drug. Does your GI have samples of the drug? That way yor husband can try it and see if it helps him before you approach Salix.

I take both Lactulose and Xifaxan.

Susie

Meld 16

Post edited by: dachsiefan, at: 03/22/2012 07:23 AM

Susie

Please don't take anything I say for medical advice. I am not a Doctor.

03/22/2012 07:54 AM  Top
mpmom
mpmom
 
Posts: 3275
Group Leader
I'm an Advocate

Shajen ,

Many of us have to travel to see our Hepatologist, some for 4 hours or more. I also see a GI in town for regular care and see the Hep when needed. A good GI can take care of him as long as they have sufficient liver knowledge (Not all Do)But there are some very good GI's out there.

I understand the nausea Try mixing the lactulose in something.Many of us do.

No one deserves this disease regardless of the cause.

Gail
Good friends are like angels.
You don't have to see them to know they are there.
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