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02/27/2012 07:42 AM

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1polarbear
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Ok, I've got cirrhosis, I know that and I have most of the symptoms everyone else has but on Saturday morning I woke with pain in my liver area, right upper quadrant, and it has radiated to my back. I've never experienced pain here for this long. 48 hours and hurting so much. Is this part of the process? I emailed my hepa doc to see what she says. I've never emailed her before so I don't know how long she takes to answer. Is this something I should be worried about?
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02/27/2012 08:18 AM
rpooo
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To my knowledge this isn't common. The gallbladder is also located in the area you explained. Have you tried a hot bath to rule out muscle ache? If the heat from the bath doesn't work then I would recommend seeing your liver specialist as soon as possible. Also have you started any new medication and if so be sure to pay particular attention to use as directed label as many need to be taken with food and some are only certain types of food. Zinc sulfate is a good example of this. Please let us know how you are doing. Take care!

Randy


02/27/2012 08:33 AM
1polarbear
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I just got an email back from the Hepa, she told me to go to ER so that's what I am doing. Just waiting for her to let me know which one, the one she is affiliated with or the one nearer my home. I'm at work so either one is the same distant.

02/27/2012 09:42 AM
iwiham1027
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Hey Robyn, Good luck hope all turns out ok. Sending prayers your way! Cheryl

02/27/2012 11:25 AM
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I had the IDENTICAL symptoms last fall, and none of the doctors I was in touch with (family doc, ER doc, hepatologist later on) would/could indicate the specific cause, though the family doc said it sounded like classic gallbladder attack symptoms. Based on the info now available at this group's very own mysickliver.com, it seems that cirrhosis can indeed cause "pigment gallstones." In my case, the gallstone(s) must've passed during the attack because nothing could be seen on ultrasound. But several months later, my liver enzymes sure had risen significantly (??). (I still often feel so clueless about what is going on with me...oops, sorry, went from responding to venting....)

02/27/2012 02:57 PM
sadlystillsane
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I had that pain in my liver radiating into my back, although it was chronic not an acute pain like it seems you are describing Robyn. My doc said it was "refracted pain" from the liver sac being irritated and that it was also making my back sore...pain meds was it for me. Hope to ER can tell you something positive!!

Thinking about you, let us know how you make out....


02/27/2012 03:16 PM
dmanflan
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Hey Robyn!

My thoughts are along the lines of what Marg is saying. The organs of the abdomen are all contained in the peritoneum sac, which is where pain sensors are located. With the inflammation of the liver itself, it is possible that you are feeling pain from front to back thru the peritoneum.

Just my thoughts--let us know what your docs say.

Dennis


02/27/2012 06:31 PM
sammy566
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Hopefully everything at the ER went ok.

It has been my experience that most pain in that area is caused by trapped gas.

The large intestine makes a sharp turn at that spot and a swollen liver puts pressure on it and traps gas.

Hopefully that is all it is.

Wishing you the best.

sammy


02/27/2012 07:08 PM
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I used to get URQ pain that occasionally radiated to my mid back...

"My Theory" was that my swollen liver was pushing out on my lower ribs, which are NOT attached to the sternum in front. These are known as "floating ribs" and attach only to the spine in the back.

Any pressure on these floating ribs should "torque" the spine where they are attached, which I assume would cause pain. I developed this theory because the pain was so high in my back, which is an unusual place to get back pain, but this is where these floating ribs attach.

Alcoholics get fatty hepatomegaly, but in non-drinkers, I would expect swelling is a sign of inflammation.


02/27/2012 07:51 PM
mpmom
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Robyn,

let us know what you find out.

Many prayers

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