Candidiasis Support Group

After not giving my son any form of sugar for over a year, I just cannot bring myself to give him molasses. Sorry. The no sugar people got to me first. Also, his TSH test is fine.. nothing wrong with the thyroid. Everything else I cook from scratch.. and use low gluten flours and meals.. Oat, rye, brown rice.. only olive or sunflower oil.. no potatoes (too starchy) fresh green beans (don't know if they were picked by fairies using sterile while gloves.. broccoli, asparagus.. salads, spring greens, onions, tomatoes, cucumber... no beans, no corn, no squash, no dairy (except butter).. not much there to fill a person up. We have been religious about the foods he eats, your forum is almost opposite in some things.. So Confusing.. I even starting canning... tomaotes, salsa, relish made with Splenda... Spinning my wheels. I'll try the kelp... but too afraid of the black strap... that stuff is nasty any way.. Him being autistic, makes it all the harder.. They don't like what they don't like.. no reasoning involved.. what kind of probiotics should I gove? How much? How many times a day.. How much Oregano oil pills or garlic pills should he ingest a day... what is a good brand? I'm just stabbing in the dark. For every answer I get, I get an opposite one from someone else. It is making me nuts. Strange, but we have over active immune systems in my family and he get the only one that does not work!!

Hello pollyana,

I know how frustrating this is. You name it, I have tried it. I have had (and still do) recurring skin infections (I think its fungal) for almost 2 years. I have been to the doctor, and gotten many different creams that haven't worked. I really don't know what to do, I liked the reply I got about the alkalizing baths, I would do that but we have no bathtub. Upon exhausting every other idea, getting tested for every illness under the sun, and doing some research, I believe it is the "leaky gut syndrome". The problem is probably inside, and the no sugar at all diet doesn't seem to being doing much for curing, just relieving a bit. I honestly don't know what gets rid of it, I am starting to believe that once you have it, it is just something you have to deal with for the rest of your life. Maybe I'm wrong, I hope so.

Post edited by: Axic03, at: 06/09/2011 08:19 AM

I'm hearing you. My son only gets slight rashes if his pee get on him. But the torment he feels inside must be awful.. He has rages and screams and I don't know how many windows he has broken trying to put his head through them. We have known periods of calm too... when the diet is strictly adhered to and a stedy stream of probiotics are going in him. The sad thing is that he can get too many probiotics too... I can't seem to find a balance. This last time he got too many probiotics, he lost 30 pounds before he started eating again.. Of course I had to entice him to eat with baked potatoes and dairy, and then the loe glucose Boost he had to drink it had a air amount of sugar... SO he is eating and fine now, but is raging with candida again.. Attacked me yesterday because someone coughed! Why can't a doctor look inside the stomach and see all this going on and develop something to cure it. It is not like my son eats junk food. I have always prepared our meals and thought we ate healthy.. But he cannot even have a darned baked potato with feeding the candida cycle! And everyone has a different answer... just depends what Internet page you are on. My only comfort it that at least I do know he can be better... I know what works for him, but I just can't obtain the balance. SOmeone could make a fortune if they could come up with something that worked. I get good suggestions but no one tells you how much to use.. what dose to give or how many times a day... SO you are constantly adjusting.. I am running out of speed.

I do want to say something else. When I first learned that my son had candida.. I put him on probioyics and antifungals right away and used a good diet. Things were going well.. he got into die off within 4 days.. I was amazed.. On down the road I heard of Threelac.. It had such great reviews I put my son on that. That's when the trouble really started. It was weak and ineffective. I found that purchasing a non-dairy probiotic (De-lactate Free) over the Internet that contains 250 Billion CFU's along with a resonable candida diet and antifungals, and it really made a noticable difference.. Had I tried Threelac right off the bat, I still wouldn't even believe there was such a thing as candida in the stomach... because I never would have even noticed any die off. That stuff is junk. Miv Threelac.. Watch it a while.. No action! There is nothing alive in that stuff. But mis De-lactate Free, watch it.. taste.. It is alive! So nothing it perfect... but at least De-lactate Free is a powerful probiotic and you are getting something for your money. I hope this site isn't sponsored by Threelac.. You'll never see this post.

I made the recommendation for the Gap diet because it works. Because of the leaky gut issues, your son is MALNOURISHED, those foods that I recommended will help heal the gut and nourish your son! If you're worried about taste put it in milk or juice and give it to him. Our bodies need glucose...natural sugars...but it's your decision.

I understand what you've been through, but it is your son's immune system, toxins that have poisoned him. I gave you the information I had. As far as thyroid, millions of people are THYROID DEFICIENT and don't know it because MOST OF THE TIME IT DOES NOT SHOW UP ON BLOOD TESTS! Why would you think blood tests are reliable, when doctors have no clue how to treat candida? Holistic medicine treats the WHOLE BODY, rashes, etc, are a weak immune system, weak liver, start to feed the body, cleanse the liver with bitters, acv, and kelp, etc., then our health turns around.

Wishing you the best!

Faith

Post edited by: ohfaithful, at: 06/09/2011 08:02 PM

I bought kelp today..along with Bragg's Apple Cider Vinegar.. I don't mind trying those... I even bought some of that nasty black stap molasses... but I don't not know if I will have the nerve t o give it to him or not. Not because of the taste (although it is awful) but I am so brain washed not to give him any sugars.. Candida feeds off sugar!!!! I have graurded him against any sugar for a year now... I am scared to death to deliberately put it into his body.. That will take some courage on my part. How di yor give it and how much a day? It reminds me of the old tar glue that seeps out of the bottom of old fishing scows. (shudder) Starches convert to sugar.. giving him enough glucose.. I don't want to be feeding that crap he has.. Doctors may not know about candida (I didn't until a year ago) but they do know about thyroids.. his is normal.. so what is supposed to regulate the htyroid? The kelp? The molasses? The vinegar? What about eating gluten? What about oat flour and Brown rice flour? What about fruits?? They are plenty high in sugar.. I give him Vit. C. instead of fruits, because of the sugar. What is this unsulferated black strap supposed to do? What kind and how much probiotics? He is currently taking 250 Billion CFUs a day. One time a day. See how desperate I am???? I actually bought BSM today!!!

Hey, I have been taking probiotics and raw apple cider vinegar for months, also tried Reishi mushroom extract, completely cutting out all sugar and wheat for months. I take fish oil every day, drink white tea, a multivitamin, and more that I can't remember. I still have the recurrent fungal infections that I listed. So maybe it has to be something other than fungal, bacterial?

If you are not taking at least 50 Billion CFUs of probiotics, you are wasting your time. Try 50 BILLION CFU's 3 x's a day, and try taking Oil of Oregano at bedtime. My son takes two concentrated pills.. "Oreganol" He is also taking 250 Billion CFUs of probiotic 2X's a day (make sure it has live bacteria in it. And start with 3 times a day. You should enter die off with a few days. If not, you just might have something else. My son's candida manifests in constipation, brain fog, anger, skin rash (jock itch is a first indicator). Also.. do the spit test! If you are not sure you have candida.. a simple spit test can tell you. Set a fresh glass of water by your bed side at night. First thing upon awakening in the morning, spit in the glass of water. It will usually float on top of the water. Let it sit for a good 15 to 30 minutes. Check it.. if there are stringy legs or tenticles hanging down from the spit, you have candida albicans! If the spit just stay foamy and floats on the water.. you have something else.

I do not doubt my son's problem.. I just can't keep it under control for more than a few months at a time. Thank God or those few months. I guess I am looking for a cure, not a treatment.. Treatment helps.. cure would be better. We cannot even travel at this point.. as I am chained to the stove and garden.

Post edited by: pollyana, at: 06/10/2011 08:49 AM

AXIC, where is the fungal rash located? The thing is that it takes a while to heal the immune system, but whereever it is, that part of the body is acidic! Tell me how are you taking the ACV and how much? How much kelp? OLIVE LEAF is an antifungal, get some of that and start taking it, it is also very alkaline and will help! Regarding the fungus, get a small pan, pour in about a cup of acv, add some hot water, and soak your feet in it every night, you can also add about a 1/2 cup of baking soda! THE FUNGUS IS JUST NOT ON THE NAILS, IT IS INSIDE YOUR BODY (and there are probably vitamin/mineral deficiencies contributing like a magnesium/calcium deficiency!) and soaking your feet is a detox foot bath, again fill the tub and soak, adding epson salts would also be a good idea !

Again, if you have candida, the THYROID is also involved, test or no test! Are you feeling ANY BETTER since starting these food sourced supplements? Have you noticed any changes? What about your environment? Is there mold anywhere, MOLD IS A FUNGUS, SO EXPOSURE WILL RESULT IN SKIN INFECTIONS????

POLLYANNA, CANDIDA FEEDS OFF PROCESSED SUGAR because it has NO NUTRIENTS so it makes CANDIDA WORSE! I am speaking from experience here, SUBCLINICAL THYROID DISEASE, meaning can't be diagnosed through the tests that DOCTOR'S DO, is one of the root causes of disease! For years I went from doctor to doctor to doctor with them telling me my thyroid was fine, then I read books about subclinical thyroid disease and how many people are suffering from it, and HOW BACK BEFORE PHARMACEUTICALS DOCTORS USED TO GIVE ALL PATIENTS WITH ODD COMPLAINTS DESSICATED THYROID which would fix them right up! When I went on KELP, and continued to increase my dosage, my thyroid BECAME NORMAL...SUDDENLY MY BASAL TEMPERATURE WAS MOVING UPWARD AND I WAS FEELING BETTER!

I am posting a link and a quote from Broda Barnes book, I am NOT SELLING IT or affiliated, but want you to read the reviews! UNDIAGNOSED THYROID DISORDERS KILL MILLIONS, AND I WAS ONE OF THEM, IT TOOK MY LIFE FOR A DECADE!!!

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To test for subclinical thyroid disease, test your son's BASAL TEMPERATURE underneath his arm and SEE WHAT IT IS... If it is less than 98.6, HE HAS SUBCLINICAL THYROID DISEASE because the toxins are suppressing his thyroid which is why he has the problems! DIGTESTION is also an issue and the GAPS DIET addresses digestion, and so does the organic apple cider vinegar by giving him SOME STOMACH ACID TO HELP DIGEST HIS FOODS.

Regarding dosage, I would start with one capsule, one thing and see how he responds if it were me. Don't start all three, just the kelp, and give it a week every day to see if you notice a difference, but THE GAPS DIET also used ACV and is a good guide for you! So the acv, I would start with one teaspoon in 1/2 glass of water, or you can also get a capsule maker, and add the acv to capsules which would be your best best because you could then buy the kelp buy the pound and make your own capsules!

Faith

Post edited by: ohfaithful, at: 06/10/2011 04:52 PM

Well every site on the Internet would disagree with you on the sugars.. Candida does not know the diference between refined and natural sugar. It will feed on it all..

I have him on the kelp, so we will see... also I will take it as well, since I have hypothyroidism and am currently on Thyroid medication... Let's see what it does for me. I am a great guinea pig! As for the Black Strap, all I see on the label is that is has 20% Calcium and 20% Iron.. Is there some magic ingredient in it that no one is listing??? Because I can get more calcium and Iron from other supplements without the sweet and gross taste. Now don't get me wrong... I am very open minded or I wouldn't still be corresponding with you.. But I need to have some rhyme and reason as to why I am doing this. So kelp is on board for now... He is taking the Oreganol.. (although I heard the candida develops a resistance to it after the first few times)and he has had buckets. He is taking 500 Billion CUs of probiotic a day and is sipping on the ACV w/water & Splenda, throughout the day. He likes it and so do I. We will see what happens over the next week or so with him... and If I can see any diference, other than usual, I might try the Black Strap. So, what does it do? And what's in it? We start him with the morining flush.. water/ACV/probiotics.. Trying anything in Sacramento!