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11/05/2010 07:53 AM
me2010
me2010
 
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Hi everyone,

I have started taking a new brand of St. John's Wort every day now. It works better than the ones I tried before. I can actually feel a difference after only a week. I take 3 gelcaps per day (about 1300 mg) and it doesn't make me feel sick, frozen or dizzy, just happier. Here is the brand: http://www.amazon.com/Flora-Johns-Wort-Extract-Capsules/dp/ B0010EBETQ

It seems like some of the little things that made me have crises before make me laugh. I really really hope it will continue this way, cause it's a big relief. I'll keep my fingers crossed. I'll keep you updated, but in case you want to try it, I think you're not supposed to take St. John's Wort if you're on some other prescription meds at the same time.

Post edited by: me2010, at: 11/05/2010 07:56 AM

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11/05/2010 08:41 AM  Top
angleindisguise

Thank you for the information. Glad to here there is hope out there for some people. Good Luck.

Post edited by: angleindisguise, at: 11/05/2010 08:42 AM


11/06/2010 09:04 AM  Top
orderfromchaos
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Nature has the remedy for all that ails us. Thanks for reminding me about Hypericum. Glad it's working well for you.

OFCSmile


11/07/2010 02:09 AM  Top
Angela2
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Me, I think my body chemistry is strange. Grin

Many people say they are much calmer and just love St. John's Wort. I tried it several years ago and it made me very nervous and edgy. It actually had the opposite effect on me that it was supposed to have, but that's not unusual since meds don't really seem to agree with me. You'd think we're all physically quite similar, but not me. Sad


11/07/2010 02:42 AM  Top
ApRiLGeTsAngry77

I am glad that you found something that works for you. My pdoc does not recommend it for me because I am on prescription medication.

11/07/2010 08:45 AM  Top
me2010
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Hello Angie and everyone,

Actually it does make me more nervous and sleepless, but my therapist says it's normal and that after a month, my system should get used to it. But I guess the effect can be different on different people. For me, the nervousness still feels better than being depressed and crying, but that's just me.

From my understanding, what it does is kind of like what SSRI medication do. It stops the serotonin your body produces from being re-absorbed by your body. So it kind of makes a happy hormone (serotonin) stay in your brain for longer periods than usual. For the moment, I cry less than usual and I have more energy to do things. I mean, it's easy for others to tell you to go to the gym to feel better, but sometimes you don't even have the energy to go there or even see anyone's face.

So since I'm on St. John's Wort, I think I also feel like my mind is clearer. The part I don't like is that since my mind doesn't automatically go into ''crisis mode'' when I have a negative thought, it makes me realize I now have to face some things I didn't want to, for example, by making decisions I've avoided making because of fear. I guess my crises are a way to protect myself. They take my mind away from real life problems I don't feel competent enough to face, and make me focus on small stuff and blow it out of proportion.

Anyways, St. John's Wort effect is supposedly best starting from after a month of taking it every day. After that period of time, it's supposed to start reducing the intensity of your emotions.

I've only been taking it every day for a week and a half, so it's hard to say if the effect will get better or even last on me. So far so good.

I'm usually in a semi-depressed mood and I cry a lot, mostly because I'm afraid my boyfriend will leave me or criticize me (he does that a lot..I think). But then again, if it wasn't him, I'd find another reason to be depressed about, like it's been the case all my life. I sometimes wonder if I look for negative things/people, attract them or if I justify my depressed feelings by blaming anything that's in front of me, or a combination of the 3. Well in any case, not being able to trust my own judgement is also part of me feeling depressed and frustrated. I feel like I'm running in circles most of the time. I never know if I'm right or wrong, no matter how obvious the situation seems to be to others or to my logical sense. It seems like I spend my life guessing what to do or say. Very exhausting. Makes me want to stay alone a lot to rest and feel safe, but then again, as soon as I'm alone, I'm afraid no one will ever want to be with me and here goes another panick attack.

Anyways, to come back to the medication part. My moods follow my menstrual cycle. The first week, I'm ok, with a little depression around the 3rd day or so. Then I get hyper until my ovulation and reach a peak there. At this time, I usually have anger crises and I tend to think everyone else is wrong and I have to fight them and it's a time where I'll act more promiscuous with strangers. After that peak, my mood falls drastically and I just experience pure paranoia. I'm scared I will get attacked at every street corner, everyone wants to hurt me and I have to run away and hide. So that's about a week before my period and then I get very depressed. I feel everyone hates me and that I suck and everything is my fault.It's usually during that time that I have the most insights about why I feel the way I feel and how it all relates to my childhood. Then, about a day or two before my period, I feel like everything is ok. Then it starts all over again. I guess that's just part of being a woman, but being borderline just multiplies those feelings by 100 and that's the unbearable part. However, my mom has BPD and she's passed menopause now and she still has the same symptoms a before.

So now I'm in the second week of my cycle, so everything is still ok.I think I will see if that new brand of S.John's Wort has a real impact on my worse feelings in about a week or to. I'm taking 3 gelcaps, but I'm allowed to go up to 5 a day, so maybe I'll do that if he situation gets worse. I'm extremely curious to see what will happen. After years of trying to handle BPD without daily medication, I feel plain will power is not enough in my case and chemical meds give me terrible nausea, so that's why I'm trying St. John's Wort. I had tried the St. John's Wort pills made with powder and the tincture before, but it didn't feel as efficient as this kind. It's made with the whole flower in oil. It's supposed to be more concentrated I think. We'll see how that goes. Smile


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11/07/2010 05:40 PM  Top
Angela2
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Me, please keep us posted as time goes by. Honestly, I don't believe I even stayed on it for a month so I wouldn't have gotten the full benefits from it. It had to be the older brand because it was a few years ago.

I'm glad that you found something natural and safe (I think) that is working well!

Doubting ourselves and every action we take. I'm not sure why we all seem to have that problem! It's so frustrating!


11/08/2010 01:50 AM  Top
mog
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hey thank you for this very informative info. i never thought to be aware of my cycle and my moods, and i do think you have a very good point. it's good that you are so aware of yourself. what other meds are you on, as i was told never to mix SJW with other antid's

11/13/2010 09:36 AM  Top
me2010
me2010
 
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Hello guys!

How are you? I'm getting better as every day goes by. People around me are starting to notice. I guess that's a good sign. I feel like I'm slowly coming out of a long nightmare. (I am only taking St. John Wort now, no other meds or products). I just really hope it will last through the last 2 weeks of my cycle. I'm taking 3 caps per day now, but my therapist told me that I might need to take 5 during the next 2 weeks of my cycle, since this is when the situation gets ''out of control''. For the moment, I've never felt that good, so I'll keep you updated. Like I said, I was not getting this effect at all from the other brands I tried before, so I'm not saying that all types of St. John Wort work as well.

The one I take now is:

http://www.florahealth.com/NR/exeres/77598D99-9D70-11D5- B76F-00508B8B9968.htm

They have a list of where you can get it all over the world if you're interested:

http://www.florahealth.com/flora/home/ChooseCountry.htm

You don't need a prescription to get it. I get it from a natural health store, but you can even get it online I believe:

http://www.amazon.com/Flora-Johns-Wort-Extract-Capsules/dp/ B0010EBETQ

Have a nice day!

Me Wink

Post edited by: me2010, at: 11/13/2010 09:37 AM


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11/13/2010 03:15 PM  Top
Angela2
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Me, thank you very much for updating us on this. I've been wondering how it is working for you and was hoping things were going well.

Your feedback is so positive that I may end up trying it before winter is over. I probably have a bit of seasonal affective disorder so that's the time of year I could really use a boost.

So glad to hear you're doing well on it. It's wonderful to use more natural things then some of the meds that are available.

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