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04/22/2012 06:12 AM
uppitywoman
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No offense taken. As has been said quite often, AA isn't for everyone. It did save my life. The 12 steps changed me and the emptiness I felt went away. I also made new non drinking friends which helped a lot. But those of us here who go to and went to AA accept that some do not wish to go that route and that is fine. There are other ways to sobriety. I, for one, am open to anything that gets one sober and keeps one sober and hopefully, happy and content in that sobriety just as I am.
With God, all things are possible

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http://uppitywomantwo.blogspot.com

Bipolar I

10mg Abilify--400mg Lamictal-90mg Cymbalta--25mg Ambien CR--200mg Topomax--30mg Temazapam--1mg Ativan as needed.


Please note that I am not a psychiatrist or psychologist. My opinions are personal only. This site is not intended to be a substitution for professional care, nor is anyone here qualified to make diagnoses.
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04/22/2012 12:38 PM  Top
sarahtroy
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MissHildy, In an effort to eliminate prejudice against any one method or model of sobriety, I have to say: I have never heard preaching at any AA meeting I've attended; AA has never striven nor claimed to be research-based; and claiming AA is dogmatic connotes it is a religion, which it is not.

Please let me assure you that AA does NOT frown upon antabuse injections. AA does NOT have any stance, position, or opinion about whether or not people should take medications, including psychotropic medication and pain medications. AA does NOT have any stance on their members supplementing their AA program with other methods, techniques or programs (i.e., biofeedback, antabuse, therapy, religious programs, etc.)

The reason that AA does not have any stance on the above issues is because of it's Tenth Tradition: "Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues, hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." No where else in he Big Book are these issues better addressed. Anyone who tells you AA has a stance on the above issues is giving you distorted information.

Now there are many opinionated people in AA, just as there are opinionated people everywhere, who have their own opinions on these matters, but they are not representative of AA standards.

MissHildy, The reason I went into the neutral position of AA on the above issues is to demonstrate how my membership in AA is perfectly compatible with remaining open-minded and accepting of other methods and programs.

I am open-minded to all methods and programs for achieving and maintaining sobriety. I believe everyone has to find their own unique path to sobriety.

I have been and still am extremely supportive of your use of antabuse (and therapy, etc.) to become sober. I have been in your corner, rooting for you from the start. I am proud of the progress you've made. Your sharing of your experiences with antabuse have been invaluable to this group.

Bipolar II, Generalized Anxiety Disorder, Panic Attacks, Agoraphobia & PTSD; Alcoholic in recovery since 3/21/07.

Aplenzin 522mg; Pristiq 200mg; Lamictal 400mg; Geodon 160mg; Ativan 1mg TID; Deplin 15mg; Xanax PRN; Metoprol 100mg.

• "Don't give up 5 minutes before the miracle happens."
• "My little dog - a heartbeat at my feet." ~Edith Wharton
• "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle." ~Ian MacLaren (Usually mis-attributed to Plato)
• "And the day came when the risk it took to remain tight inside the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom." ~Anais Nin

My support and advice is not a replacement for medical diagnosis, treatment, or professional medical advice.

04/22/2012 05:05 PM  Top
uppitywoman
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No need to apologize. I know it was not your intent to insult and none was taken. I'm sure being dragged to meetings as a young child was not exactly a pleasant experience. That being your only exposure, I can see how that could contribute to your feelings about AA. You stopped drinking and are staying sober in a way that is working for you and I wholly support you in that. I did it through AA. The great news is that we are both sober!! And that is all that really matters in the end.
With God, all things are possible

My blog:

http://uppitywomantwo.blogspot.com

Bipolar I

10mg Abilify--400mg Lamictal-90mg Cymbalta--25mg Ambien CR--200mg Topomax--30mg Temazapam--1mg Ativan as needed.


Please note that I am not a psychiatrist or psychologist. My opinions are personal only. This site is not intended to be a substitution for professional care, nor is anyone here qualified to make diagnoses.

04/23/2012 09:13 AM  Top
sarahtroy
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MissHildy, Thank you for gracious response. I also feel you needn't apologize, because I know you are a nonjudgmental person with a kind heart and no ill intent.

In retrospect, my post was also intended for a wider audience - and I should have clarified that. I responded with information about AA's Tenth Tradition partly to assure you AA does not frown upon antabuse, partly to address the previous posts about psychotropic meds, pain meds, etc. and partly because explaining the foundation of AA helps people understand it.

I am sorry you were dragged to AA meetings when you were a child. That must make for some awful memories.

I am proud to be in this group with you now. I have learned a lot from you as a person and have a great deal of respect for your recovery using antabuse.

Post edited by: sarahtroy, at: 04/23/2012 09:14 AM

Bipolar II, Generalized Anxiety Disorder, Panic Attacks, Agoraphobia & PTSD; Alcoholic in recovery since 3/21/07.

Aplenzin 522mg; Pristiq 200mg; Lamictal 400mg; Geodon 160mg; Ativan 1mg TID; Deplin 15mg; Xanax PRN; Metoprol 100mg.

• "Don't give up 5 minutes before the miracle happens."
• "My little dog - a heartbeat at my feet." ~Edith Wharton
• "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle." ~Ian MacLaren (Usually mis-attributed to Plato)
• "And the day came when the risk it took to remain tight inside the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom." ~Anais Nin

My support and advice is not a replacement for medical diagnosis, treatment, or professional medical advice.

04/23/2012 01:05 PM  Top
Bangbang
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I took antabuse back in 1988 and it worked great. I thought that was all I needed but then I had a psychotic episode caused by the antabuse. It is a rare side effect. I was a mess till the med got out of my system. I thought my only choice then was to go to AA meetings and it worked for 5 years...then I relapsed. I had never worked the steps. This time I got a sponser and worked the steps and it has made me a happy person that can cope with life as it comes.
You are not drunk unless you have to hang on while lying on the floor.

Previous discussions I participated in:
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well in a weird mood
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04/23/2012 02:54 PM  Top
Bangbang
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Yes....it was horrible...it was like a 2 week LSD trip. Some of it was hilarious.
You are not drunk unless you have to hang on while lying on the floor.

Previous discussions I participated in:
no no no no no no no
well in a weird mood
lithium
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