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Bipolar II ForumsGeneral & SupportAt what point do you consider yourself stable?
07/04/2011 05:36 PM
redphoenix
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At what point do you consider yourself stable? I was feeling pretty good for a while, then I started having mild depression coming around every morning. I pretty much always have anxiety in the mornings. The mild depression I have is enough to put a damper on my day (at least as long as it lasts). It tends to ease up around midday. I feel fairly normal (maybe just a tiny bit down) for the rest of the day. I take my night meds and go to sleep. I get up the next day and do it over again. This has been going on for a while.

Saturday, I woke up feeling great... no anxiety, no depression. Yea! I would up going through the day feeling great. I took some Vicodan that afternoon and I think it made me hypomanic (do pain killers do that?). Any way, I wound up staying up until around 3:30 that night and woke up the next day feeling really down.

I have felt bad ever since. This morning I was moderate/severely depressed... crying, etc. My husband has had to take care of things around the house because I can't. I haven't felt this bad in two or three weeks.

Anyway, that's the background. What I would like to know is at what point to you consider yourself stable? Are you considered stable if you wake up with the same low level depression every morning and then it goes away... just the same everyday? Are you still considered stable when you have a few days that you feel bad, but not enough to be considered severe? Are you stable if you have a hypomanic day here and there?

I just keep praying for stability. Maybe I do actually have it... it just seems like it would be better than this. I'm a little confused about what "stability" really means (maybe it's different for different people). Any thoughts?

Susan

http://www.bringchange2mind.org/

Bipolar II w/ treatment resistant depression
BED

Latuda 160 mg
Lamictal 400 mg
Lithium 900 mg
Effexor 300 mg
Wellbutrin 450 mg
Lorazipam 2 mg x 4
Vyvanse 70 mg
Adderall IR 60 mg
Mirtazapine 30 mg
Liothyronine 50 mcg (thyroid)

We can never obtain peace in the outer world until we make peace with ourselves.-Dalai Lama

And remember, no matter where you go, there you are. -Confucius

I am not a doctor and my advice is purely my opinion and should be regarded as such.
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07/04/2011 05:43 PM  Top
redphoenix
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I got an error message when posting this. Is anyone else having trouble with posting to the website?
Susan

http://www.bringchange2mind.org/

Bipolar II w/ treatment resistant depression
BED

Latuda 160 mg
Lamictal 400 mg
Lithium 900 mg
Effexor 300 mg
Wellbutrin 450 mg
Lorazipam 2 mg x 4
Vyvanse 70 mg
Adderall IR 60 mg
Mirtazapine 30 mg
Liothyronine 50 mcg (thyroid)

We can never obtain peace in the outer world until we make peace with ourselves.-Dalai Lama

And remember, no matter where you go, there you are. -Confucius

I am not a doctor and my advice is purely my opinion and should be regarded as such.

07/04/2011 06:14 PM  Top
Joy75
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I'm consider myself stable. I get mad ,happy, sad, just not to the extreme that I used to. You still have feelings. I have not had a hypo-manic or depressive episode since I was weaned off Lamictal and put back on. I think stability is different for everyone. I'm sorry you are experiencing this right now. I hope that you get back to yourself soon and this depressive feeling leaves you. Also, yes, I believe this website has been having problems today. I couldn't even check my messages earlier. Hope you feel better real soon!
Joy, 37 years old

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07/05/2011 12:12 AM  Top
Roger75
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Are you considered stable if you wake up with the same low level depression every morning and then it goes away... just the same everyday? Are you still considered stable when you have a few days that you feel bad, but not enough to be considered severe? Are you stable if you have a hypomanic day here and there?

Yes, yes and yes. Smile

I dare say that a 100% stability, that is, a mood totally perfect and consequently 'flat', is impossible for most people in the world, irrespective of presence (or absence) of any mental illness.

In my humble opinion, we have to accept some our mood changes which are inherent in the human being, of course in certain limits.

Post edited by: Roger75, at: 07/05/2011 12:18 AM

Bipolar type II with symptoms of Borderline Personality Disorder, Generalized Anxiety Disorder and Cyclothymia.

Lithium: 900 mg
Lamotrigine: 25 mg
Seroquel: 200 mg
Clonazepam: 2 to 6 mg (it depends on my anxiety level)

07/05/2011 03:26 AM  Top
mem4809

Stable for me is Depression and hypomania-free on a regular basis with no mood swings--related to BP. Sorry to hear that your Dep is worsening again.

07/05/2011 05:00 AM  Top
willowwisp
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Hi Red,

I would not say you are at all stable. If someone went to the doctor because they had depression.. and a year later, they were still depressed.. I would not consider their treatment successful. Neither would I consider someone with BP stable, who is still waking up everyday with the "same low level depression"... Sadness, is normal.. if you have a reason to be sad. But depression, everyday, with no environment cause? not stable, at all.

As you know, I was in the same position as you. Thankfully, I was lucky enough to find an additional Anti-depressant that works. But, I don't feel like pills are the only answer here. I know you and I have talked, and there are lots of things that you can do to help elevate your mood.. exercise.. diet.. etc... I really encourage you to try some of those things...

I saw an angel in the marble, and carved until I set her free...

07/05/2011 07:47 AM  Top
redphoenix
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I feel much better today... Funny (not literally) how that happens. Willow, you're right about the diet and exercise. If you read my posts last week you know that I got lab results and visited the cardiologist. My blood lipids are off (good numbers on bad cholesterol, bad numbers on good cholesterol, high triglycerides, high blood sugar; tobacco user; obese; bipolar; family history of heart disease... heart attacks, triple bypass surgery, valve replacement, and severe PAD... I get this all from my father and my grandparents on his side... his father died when he was ten and my grandmother died in 1963, both from heart attacks... not sure how old she was, but not old.)

Anyway, you may have already known all that, but that's the long and the short of it. I am going to die early if I don't get my self together. I've had my pdoc, my primary physician, and my cardiologist all tell me the same thing. I am going this week to look at a new gym that's close to me. It's called Koko FitClub (http://www.kokofitclub.com/ if you want to look it up). It seems really innovative and cool. My parents said they would help pay for it if I would just start doing it and stick with it. So I guess there's no excuse not to do it. I am also going to try to eat better and eventually quit smoking. I can't do it all at once... it overwhelms me.

Thanks for the responses.

Susan

http://www.bringchange2mind.org/

Bipolar II w/ treatment resistant depression
BED

Latuda 160 mg
Lamictal 400 mg
Lithium 900 mg
Effexor 300 mg
Wellbutrin 450 mg
Lorazipam 2 mg x 4
Vyvanse 70 mg
Adderall IR 60 mg
Mirtazapine 30 mg
Liothyronine 50 mcg (thyroid)

We can never obtain peace in the outer world until we make peace with ourselves.-Dalai Lama

And remember, no matter where you go, there you are. -Confucius

I am not a doctor and my advice is purely my opinion and should be regarded as such.

07/05/2011 12:20 PM  Top
InvisibleMe
InvisibleMe
 
Posts: 3203
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I have become stable. I have gotten rid of that low-level depression that I've struggled with for the past year. I consider being stable as having no symptoms of depression or hypomanic elation, functioning well in social, professional, and interpersonal areas, and having appropriate reactions to daily disappointments and successes.
~ Christine

Abilify 10 mg
Lamotrigine 200 mg
Bupropion XL 450 mg
Clorazepate 30 mg (for anxiety)
Trazodone 300 mg prn (for sleep)
Xanax .5 mg prn (for anxiety and sleep)

*Please note that I am not a doctor and my advice is purely my opinion.

Previous discussions I participated in:
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07/06/2011 12:03 AM  Top
ComingUndone
ComingUndone
 
Posts: 1444
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I would say I consider myself stable when I'm mostly putting a 5 on my mood chart. Not hypomanic, not depressed. Not happy, not sad. I think I am stable right now, although I would prefer to always be a 6 on my mood chart.
♥ Christine

Lamotrigine(Lamictal) 400mg
Clonazepam (Klonipin) 0.25mg
Quetiapine (Seroquel) 200mg
Vyvanse 35mg
Alprazolam (Xanax) 0.5mg PRN

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