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08/23/2010 12:25 PM
ConfusedMommy11
ConfusedMommy11
 
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i can't help but notice as one who suffers from bipolar and chronic pain with my chronic pain being endometriosi, that a lot of other bp suffers also have chronic pain. anyone know if there is a link btwn the 2?
Tiffany, Age 28
Bipolar II
Endometriosis
Borderline Personality Disorder
Migraines


Lamictal 200mg
Klonopin 1.5mg
Estrace 2mg
Prozac 10mg

"God is Love, God is Faithful. I rest in His perfect Peace."--my anxiety mantra


"Just because I could achieve my tasks yesterday, please do not assume that I will be able to do it tomorrow"

"when she was down she was VERY VERY DOWN
but when she was high SHE COULD FLY."

“Just when the Caterpillar thought the World was over, it became a Butterfly!” ~ Proverb

Please note that I am not a psychiatrist or psychologist. My opinions are personal only. This site is not intended to be a substitution for professional care, nor is anyone here qualified to make diagnoses.
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08/23/2010 12:41 PM  Top
FatherKarras
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I'm not sure about the physical side of things, but bp/bp depression can definitely accentuate the pain and make it appear worse than it is. It's all mental, but that doesn't make it hurt any less.

It's a vicious cycle, because the bp can cause the increase in pain, and then the increase in pain causes more trouble mentally. Sometimes it's very hard for me to discern the difference between my normal shoulder pain (torn) and what is mental making it seem worse.

Anyway, that's just my take on it. I could be wrong. Smile

Patrick

Is all that we see or seem, but a dream within a dream--EA Poe

Nobody loves you when you're down and out; Nobody sees you when you're on cloud 9--John Lennon

And in the end; the love you take; is equal to the love; you make--The Beatles

Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man--Friedrich Nietzsche

Hope is the thing with feathers
That perches in the soul,
And sings the tune without the words,
And never stops at all--Emily Dickinson

Current drugs:
Effexor 150 mg
Risperidone 6 mg q am
Klonopin 1 mg tid

08/23/2010 12:46 PM  Top
ConfusedMommy11
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ugh i had a torn shoulder too....i have had so much physical issues the past 5 years. 7 different surgeries...6 for endo one being a hysterectomy and then shoulder sugery. it is all connected thats for sure. my mental and physical feed off of each other. and then i have borderline personality disorder too so that just adds to the mental aspect of it.
Tiffany, Age 28
Bipolar II
Endometriosis
Borderline Personality Disorder
Migraines


Lamictal 200mg
Klonopin 1.5mg
Estrace 2mg
Prozac 10mg

"God is Love, God is Faithful. I rest in His perfect Peace."--my anxiety mantra


"Just because I could achieve my tasks yesterday, please do not assume that I will be able to do it tomorrow"

"when she was down she was VERY VERY DOWN
but when she was high SHE COULD FLY."

“Just when the Caterpillar thought the World was over, it became a Butterfly!” ~ Proverb

Please note that I am not a psychiatrist or psychologist. My opinions are personal only. This site is not intended to be a substitution for professional care, nor is anyone here qualified to make diagnoses.

08/23/2010 01:00 PM  Top
FatherKarras
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I had four shoulder surgeries on my right arm and a knee repair on the right, all between 2006 and 2009. I now need ANOTHER rt shoulder surgery. I just can't escape the blade.

I'm sorry you've had to go through all of that, as well. It's not something I would wish on anyone. Maybe we can both work towards escaping the OR for a while. Laughing

Patrick

Is all that we see or seem, but a dream within a dream--EA Poe

Nobody loves you when you're down and out; Nobody sees you when you're on cloud 9--John Lennon

And in the end; the love you take; is equal to the love; you make--The Beatles

Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man--Friedrich Nietzsche

Hope is the thing with feathers
That perches in the soul,
And sings the tune without the words,
And never stops at all--Emily Dickinson

Current drugs:
Effexor 150 mg
Risperidone 6 mg q am
Klonopin 1 mg tid

08/23/2010 03:42 PM  Top
MissStacey
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I don't believe there is a link at all, I know as far as my other medical conditions they are not linked/related to Bipolar in any way however like Patrick said anytime a person suffers from any type of chronic pain the number 1 trigger is stress and lack of sleep for pain and coincidentally those are the same triggers for Bipolar episodes. There are similarities in management of each to maintain them. My Bipolar has been fully stable for over a year but my other conditions are very unstable. I have heard that PMDD has been linked and other womenly conditions but not general pain conditions. Hope my rambling has made some sense. I wish you some relief. Wink
I suffer from Rapid Progressive MS, Lupus, Fibromyalgia, Epilepsy, Migraines, Neuropathy, IBS, Narcolepsy, Arrythmia, Arthritis and too much more complete list on profile.

"Just because we have the right to disagree with a person, does NOT give us the right to disrespect that person."

I'm not currently active due to many personal and medical issues. I will not be participating in MDJ for awhile, my thoughts and prayers are with everyone. I hope everyone is well and I appreciate all of the thoughts, kind words and messages. I have tried to respond as much as possible and apologize if I have not gotten back to everyone. Love & Hugs, Stacey

08/23/2010 09:08 PM  Top
hedap
 
Posts: 2009
Senior Member

There haven't been any causal relationships established that I know of, but there is a higher incidence of fibromyalgia patients having depression and bp. I can only speak for myself, genetically I know there was possibly something arthritic/rheumatoid in both grandmothers and both seemed to have depression/?. xxhedap
Savella 50 mg 2x daily
Lortab 10's 4x day
Tramadol 50 mg 4x day
Nuvigil 123 mg day
Klonopin o.5 mg 4 doses daily
Aplenzin 348 mg 2x day
Abilify 5 mg day
Lamictal 50 mg 2x day

Misc.
Levothyroxine 150 mcg 1x day
Vitamin D 50000 IU's 1x weekly
Pravastatin 10 mg day

11/26/2012 07:28 AM  Top
Armywife77
Posts: 1
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I believe there is a connection. I have had chronic pain for 4 years and also have had migraines since I was a child. I started pain management a while back and that dr suggested I was depressed and get treated for it. I knew I was depressed but figured it was bc I was in pain. I went to a psychiatrist and was diagnosed with MDD. I was prescribed several different SSRI's that made me nuts but realized right away my pain was cut in half. After many SSRI's that weren't helping but seemed to make me worse and out of control I went to a therapist. She diagnosed me right away with bipolar 2. I'm on only 25 milligrams of zoloft now and going to go back to phycatrist with the bipolar 2 diagnosis and see what he suggests. I am convinced there is definitely a connection between bipolar 2 and chronic pain though I'm not sure which causes which.

11/26/2012 05:03 PM  Top
brandib811
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I don't believe there's a direct relationship. I had chronic pain long before any bipolar symptoms. If anything being in pain makes me depressed and act out. I heard someone say once "he's not in pain because he's depressed, he's depressed because he's in pain." I always related to that statement. Very few doctors believe that though. Since being diagnosed with bipolar I haven't been able to find a doctor to take my physical ailments seriously. I know stress causes a lot of physical symptoms, but I have yet to come across anything in my studies or research that suggests bipolar causes all the ailments I have.
Meds:
Geodon 160mgs daily
Tegratol 300mgs daily
Klonopin 1-2mgs prn
Synthroid .100mcg daily
Protonix 20mg daily
Hydrocodone 5/350mg prn

11/29/2012 12:22 PM  Top
andiedog
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Ive had chronic back pain since I was a teenager. My family had a vineyard and I was constantly lifting, pushing and tugging on very heavy things (grapes are heavy when its tons at a time). Then I became and CNA then nurse and lifted on patients all day long. I've had chronic thoracic area pain for years. An X ray showed that I have extensive bone spurs and degeneration. A breast reduction helped and then I've done PT. I still hurt almost every hour of every day. The cymbalta I was put on in March helped quite a bit. I don't think the pain is mental, its physical for me. Having BP just makes me feel more anxious about it.
BP2, anxiety, agoraphobia, asthma, chronic back and hip pain, GERD, esophageal dysmotility, B-12 and Vitamin D deficiency, migraines, gastritis, bariatric surgery survivor

Cymbalta 30mg
lamictal 200 mg
abilify 7.5 mg daily
klonopin 1 mg at bedtime, 0.5mg in pm prn
nexium 40 mg 2xday
qvar inhaler 2x day
symbicort inhaler 2x day
synthroid 75mcg
B-12
mag oxide 400 mg daily
D3 2000 IU daily
sumatriptan as needed
folic acid daily
multi vitamin 2 daily
I am not a physician. These are my opinions only. Please check with your healthcare provider for concerns and issues.

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