Bipolar Teens Support Group

Im new here. I am looking for some support from anyone who understands. I am at wits end. My son is 17, bipolar, has extreme violent episodes to the point I have to leave my home sometimes because I am in fear for my daughter and I. He sometimes refuses to take his meds, he started self medicating as well. He refuses to participate in counseling. he will make an appearance then stay 15 minutes if we are lucky. He doesnt tell the psychiatrist everything he should and if I say it to her she says she needs to hear it from him. He has violent outbursts in our neighborhood, constantly getting into arguments and fights with people. They then threaten to do things to our home. I am just at a loss and feel so alone. My husband and I separated 4 yrs ago as it started to get worse. I developed a new relationship a yr later and now 3 yrs later this one failed as well because he couldnt tolerate the outbursts the lies, the stealing and touching things that didnt belong to him. his room is horrible and stinks so badly that the door cannot be open or it smells my whole house up. OH he has conduct disorder as well (forgot to mention that). my daughter wrote me a letter (she just turned 8 sunday) saying she wants to live with her dad because she is afraid and is afraid her brother will hit me when he cocks his hand back at me and that will hurt her feelings. he constantly calls me names, horrible names, everything but a child of God in front of her, screams it outside, wishes death upon me, says he will piss and spit on my grave, tells my daughter she has to take care of me cause he will not. I call the police, they do nothing. he has broken my windows, holes in walls, etc. its just amazing I cannot get any help at all! I dont know what to do. Does anyone else deal with this?

Hes out of control and needs to be hospitalized it sounds like.If he wont go and is a danger to himself or OTHERs(YOU) you can go to clerks office get court order I did when mine was 16 and 17 now shes 19 and goes on her own when it gets bad.

If hes not med compliant does he say why?I know some have bad side effects some not so bad.

I feel for you mines in right now again 2 xs in month she just got home 6th shes taking her meds sees therapist weekly pdr every few weeks we just cant get her meds right been 6 long years.

Know many of us here all in same boat your not alone.

Until my daughter accepted her illness and started trying it was really bad but even trying and doing all right she still like this alot.

Bipolar is Roller Coaster but I have found hope on these forums some took 10 years to find right meds some gets lucky first ones work.

He has to want to help himself as well.

Just know we are here too holler anytime and welcome to group.

Lisa

I thought of you Kim when I read this thread

well ive gotten 5 days worth of meds in him,and he is starting to calm down again. THANK GOD! His therapist, his psychiatrist and the police... none of them had him admitted. he has to go thru this place called common ground because of his insurance and when we get there (if i can get him in the car) he snows em. how thats even possible, as if they cant recognize is beyond me. Thank you all for listening to me. I just made an appointment with a shrink myself cuz I am at witts end! I really honestly cannot take anymore of this. I am hoping this therapist i am trying to see can help me with my feelings and then help me with resources. we will see. I appreciate you all for welcoming me in with open arms. the general public (i will call them) doesnt understand at ALL! lol they have no clue, they just call the police when he starts. then tell me i should whoop em. ugh! if only it were that easy sometimes. I cannot thank you enough!!! I really cant <in tears>.

Jodie

In many states, when I minor will not submit to the control of a parent and follow rules, juvenile court charges can be brought. Does Michigan not ha ve such laws? One you get them in court and point out to the court the psychological problems, they will order them to comply with treatment. Sometimes the probation officer can keep them in line with detention time hanging over their head.

Won't the police file such charges for you?

Its same here in KY as MI then I see people talk about police WONT help heck they charged mine once when I asked for helpt to get to hospital with court order papers id got.

Here they have no choice they cant snow if I took her in they kept her and if court orders it they either get treatment or they can go to juvi they dont play here when their minors

Its not all of michigan but in my county they dont do a damn thing. I went to the court and petitioned, they sent me a letter and said because my son was 17 they have exhausted all their resources with him. i call the police and they say (in front of him no less) as long as he is in the house doing all this crap, theres nothing they can do. but if he is outside they can arrest him. BULLDONKEY! they have caught him outside and do nothing but talk to him then leave. I asked for a transport to common ground intake one day, they told me thats not their job. I took him to a medical hospital in E.R. once, sat there for over 8 hours, i had to go get my daughter, the ppl i left her with had to leave for work. the hospital tried making me sign papers saying i was leaving against their judgement because they wouldnt allow my son to stay there for me to get my daughter and return, he had to leave with me cuz he was a minor. smh~ they said if I return with him it could take in excess of 48 hours for him to be admitted into someplace so i need to be better prepared. What the hell.

one time about 8 months ago, my son was flipping so bad and threatening so bad, in front of the home therapists no less who said and did nothing. In my classes (college, i am going for social work/mental health services) we talked about cps and their roles. cps child protective services. So this one day he is flipping his therapist doing nothing cuz it wasnt directed at her at the moment, and he finally pushed me. I hit him in front of her knowing cps will be called. I figured ok, these ppl wont help, let me get cps in here. they get involved, within 2 days of home visits seen all they needed to see and jumped on getting my son out of the home because he is violent and because of my daughter. she couldnt believe no one hadnt done anything. she came from a different county and said help is here!!! then quickly started getting all the road blocks i hit when asking for help. she even cried with me on day saying I cannot believe this at all... its as thought the state wants my son to be killed or locked up rather than helping him. I cannot force him in my car, i cannot get the police to take him. his last therapist quit cuz of her fear of him and here i sit with my life in complete turmoil. he does what he wants when he wants how he wants to whom he wants with no regard to anyones feelings, or whomevers property it is, or whatEVER the case might be at the moment. It has literally split my family (ie: mom, dad, and I) relationship apart. I no longer have anything to do with my parents. again, lost my husband and then another relationship. my daughter has a hard time keeping friends because they cannot come over here due to her brother being here per their parents. my son has stolen from all my friends and family members, and even his own fathers home and is not allowed at any of their houses and hasnt been for years. it is getting to the point where I am starting to disassociate myself because I am so angry when really its not his fault. why I cannot get the help he deserves I will never understand. they tell me its because he WILL NOT PARTICIPATE. well dammit!!! I cant make him!! he doesnt trust anyone cuz they change over every yr or so. just when he starts to trust someone they leave. he will not tell them but will tell me about his mind racing, he cannot think straight, his thoughts are sometimes that of the devil he will say. his mind wont shut up.... he doesnt and refuses to tell them any of this cuz he knows they will do something but wont take my word for it. i just dont know what else to do!

sorry for my typos....

Can you sign him over to state temporarily??Let them GET him help none will give??

CPS didnt get anything done??

Gosh my heart breaks for you.

When we got the court orders whe she was under 18 she either coperated or she could go JUVI jail for contempt for the days she was ordered at hospital

So sad we cant get mental health help when begging dam shame in this country IMO

Sorry