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05/05/2008 18:22
JeffDavis2134
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I'm anew member. bipolar,substance abuse. It took years after I tried to be sober to be diagnosised bipolarl, although I think it may be bipolar ll. I'm 7 months sober and wonder if anyone else out there can describe their recovery. How long did it take? How did your life improve? Did you attend a 12 step program? What helped you to get on the right meds? My symptoms are primarily depression. The only times I passed into hypomania or beyond was during alcohol and pot use. My mornings are consistently bad and afternoons and night good, what do you know about that? I think I am a rapid cycler. How much does large quantities of caffeine and sugar mess up our chemical balance ( or lack thereof)? Anyway enough questions for now. I wish you all well as we trudge this hopeful path to recovery and better things.
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05/05/2008 18:50
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Hey, JeffDavis...glad you joined. I am dual diagnosed and am sober for 1 yr 6 mos...I don't have severe bipolar symptoms unless I use alcohol. My symptoms tend toward manic...I do drink large amounts of coffee...I am from New Orleans it is a dietary stapleLOL...My live improved by being sober because I don't have hangovers or manic episodes that were a big problem. I am more even tempered.

Others may have answers ...I am glad you are here. Welcome

"In the time of your life, live-so that in that wondrous time you shall not add to the misery and sorrow of the world, but, shall smile to the infinite variety and mystery of it." William Saroyan


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05/05/2008 21:22
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Hi Jeff,

Welcome to the group. I have bipolar 1, and rapid cycling, and have psychosis. I am a recovering alcaholic. I have been sober for almost 6 yrs, and have been medicated for 1 yr.

I went to AA all this time, and did all the steps, sponsored people, did alot of inventory, and ended up suicidal at 5 yrs sober.

I was very manic on drugs. I was depressed on alcahol, and pot.

My illness got worse as the years went by. I started rapid cycling about a year ago. I would cycle in an hour. I was terrified. I put myself in therapy, and came out bipolar. I finally surrendered.

I hit a bottom. Now it's about going to therapy, and taking meds, and working my recovery program, so, I take care of both diseases.

I have noticed, that too much caffeine can make me manic, and increase my anxiety, I have always been hypoglycemic, so, If my sugar is off, I can have an episode, too. If, I drink coffee, and eat sugar with out eating before hand, I can't sleep at night.

Anyway, hang out, this is a great place, we are here for you.

God Bless,Gypsy
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05/05/2008 22:31
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Welcome to the group Jeff. It took my wife 7 years to reach the point of being stable. She has been stable for about a year now. Once they find the right meds and get good therapy it makes all the difference.

Your gonna find alot of good people here, abundant in experience and wisdom.

GOD BLESS

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05/06/2008 07:45
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welcome, jeff-i am bipolar. i denied the diagnosis for a long time and spent a year self-medicating my way through my rapid cycling with lots and lots of valium. once i got off the valium, it still took me a while to admit i needed the bipolar meds. i wanted to just take an anti-depressant because if i just did that, it meant i wasn't bipolar, right?...lol...since getting on meds for my bipolar, i stabilized within a few months. i still have some symptoms, but they are totally manageable. i know i'm one of the lucky ones. it takes some, like red's wife, much longer to find the right med combination. i decided that i would accept that i was bipolar and that i knew myself better than anyone. so before i went to the psychiatrist, i researched every medication, wrote down side effects from all the meds i had ever taken, and went in with a list of medicines that i either hadn't tried that seemed like they might work for me, or that i had been on that i knew i wasn't willing to try again. fortunately, my pdoc is great and doesn't get offended by my participating in my own care. lots of them do. i think the research i did and being prepared is what made me be able to stabilize more quickly. plus, being well informed made me feel like i was a participant instead of a patient or guinea pig, and that really empowered me. if you can do some research, i'd suggest giving it a try. there's so much information out there. plus, there's the medication forum on this site, and people talk about a lot of the meds and the good and bad parts of taking them.

remember one thing-you are BRAVE for facing this situation. it takes a lot!!! people here know that and will be here to support you. this site has been a life saver for me and it's gotten me through some rough times. there are people on here that i've never met in person that i consider some of my best friends. feel free to visit often, ask questions and just get some support when you need it.

peace to you on your journey.

z.

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Thou canst not disturb a flower without the troubling of a star...from "Troubling a Star", by Madelaine L'Engle...we all affect one another by our words and actions...it is our choice whether to do so purposefully and positively, or carelessly and hurtfully...may we all bring to one another the peace that we seek...

"if you want others to be happy, practice compassion. if you want to be happy, practice compassion" the Dahli Laama
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05/06/2008 18:10
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Hi, Jeff, welcome to the group, I'm Carmen, Bipolar II, Alcoholic/addict with 15+ years of sobriety, for me the getting sober came before the getting diagnosed, so you could say that I have self medicated for years, just got the diagnosis, back in august of this year..

I hit bottom living on the streets of Long Beach California, selling drugs to support myself and my habits, I got to the point, I just could not do it anylonger, decided it was get sober or kill myself and i didn't have the guts to go tell my children, their mom wanted to die.

I had been busted for holding, and went to jail, when I got out of there, I was sentenced to diversion, the counselor there knew I was high the whole time I was there, but figured if I kept coming something would get planted, it did, and he was the one I turned to when it came time. He helped me find a place that would take people like me, no money, no insurance and no place to go,

I self committed to rehab, spent 90 days in their program, at the end of the first 30, I had to become self supporting, I did, and it's been going ever since. I've attended many many AA meetings and always came away with hearing something that I needed to hear, do you have a sponsor? are you working your steps, they have been a tremendous help to me.

Like you the depression was the main expression of my bipolar, unmedicated there were rages, panic attacks, anxiety, etc.. as for how long your sobriety will take? it's a life long thing, we're always just one drink away from drunk, but if you can do it, do it 24 hours at a time, I take lamictal for my bipolar, it's worked wonders for me, has me out of the black hole of depression I have lived in most of my life..

Sobriety for me, means I don't have to look behind me to see if the cops are there, I can go through a sobriety check point and not have to worry about it, I can be a responsible adult, take care of myself and those around me, I can make a commitment and actually follow through, today I can wake up and remember what it was I did last night, and don't have to worry who is the cowboy sharing my bed.

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05/09/2008 07:34
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Check out the Dual Diagnosed Group.

there is a Meeting planned for Sunday May 11

"In the time of your life, live-so that in that wondrous time you shall not add to the misery and sorrow of the world, but, shall smile to the infinite variety and mystery of it." William Saroyan


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05/09/2008 14:43
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[color=#008000]Welcome Jeff![/color]

Zinna said something that caught my attention and pertains to this discussion and some others we have had.

She was talking about participating in my own care...I think that is so important.

I too learned all I could about the illness and medications out there during my early treatment. This may be key to staying on meds and in treatment. If you just go along with what everyone tells you with out knowing the what and why's then you may get resentful of the very people who are trying to help you. If you are participating in your treatment and medication choices you may have a tendency to continue to find the right fit for yourself both medically and therapy wise. Thus be less inclined to quit meds...ect.

I pretty much new I was bipolar years before I was diagnosed. I used alcohol thinking it would control my moods...I was wrong.

Taking both Alcohol and Bipolar a day at a time is how I got to this point...a long road...but such a good place to be.

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05/09/2008 19:36
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Welcome aboard, Jeff! I am Bipolar I and an alcoholic. Both were diagnosed within a few months of one another. I'm just shy of 9 months sober and have been working an active AA recovery program for about 14 months. AA has been indispensable in getting my life in order and I cannot say enough good things about the program.

Bipolar, on the other hand, has proven much more difficult for me to deal with. I basically did therapy and meds for a handful of months after my diagnosis and then just quit everything and ignored this problem. I'm now facing this full-boar and head on.

I don't know of a one-size fits most type of recovery program for Bipolar such as AA. My guess is because Bipolar is SO individual and incredibly complex, so naturally, the fix can't be as simple. (AA is not always easy, but it is always simple!) I do believe treatment works and that fellowship is an import part of dealing with Bipolar Disorder.

The two most important things I can say are get into a local AA program to help keep you sober forevermore and be in charge or your own Bipolar treatment. Doctors, drugs, knowledge and outreach are tools in the arsenal, but YOU have to the commander-in-chief, the leadership in the battle.

undertoe

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05/13/2008 14:41
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I thank you all for your response. Taking control by learnig about medications and my sympyoms is one thing I am going to take more seriously.

2/25/06 I had a mental breakdown of sorts that left me doubting my sanity and of course continuing to use allowed it to last about a year before going completely away. I now associate it with a severe manic episode accompanied with racing multiple thought of anxiety with extremepanic of a fear of going crazy with suicidal ideations. I couldn't talk with other people for help, like AA, it made me worse. I tried to blend what every one said as meaning some kind of ultimate truth and I just couldn't handle it. I stopped going to the Kingdom Hall (church) I had 2 friends and couldn't be with more than 3 at a time. I have not contacted any of my AA companions or sponsor. AA is a remarkable organization that works and it will continue to be a part of my life until the day i die. I am taking care of my spirituality and have support.

I'm getting better and feel like I'm over the hump. Just trying to get on the right meds.

Jeff

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