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09/05/2008 22:22
Amanda78
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When I am in a manic phase I am in a "good" mood some of the time, usually though I am on the extreme side of irritable, and with that come the anger, energy so pent up that I feel I will explode with it. I have even gone to the gym and stayed there for a long time and still feel no better. I yell at the people I love the most, my hubby and my kids for stupid things, that should not have made a differnce in the first place. i know this but I am powerless to stop it. I can;t even stand myself. At least you can get away from other people. It is much harder to get away from yourself...Then I start feeling guilty about the way have treated my family and then the depression sets in. I am still very new to the bipolar area. I always assumed the enegry, lack of sleep, irriatablity, anger and stuff was part of depresion. I was dxd with depression a few times. I always felt better after a few weeks, when on meds, like I was ontop of the world. The house was clean, the yard was clean, everyone was happy. I did very well at work and anything else I wanted to do, but it only lasted for a monthor two and then I became emtionless, just a zombie, and didn't really realize it. And that was almost worse than what it used to be... Anyway, when I have this built up energy I usually punch my hubby in the shoulder. Now I'm not abusing him, but he get flusterated with it sometimes and lets me do it just to let me get some og it out. SO is anyone else like this????

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09/05/2008 23:34
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Oh yes... you described me in a nut shell!! WOW!!!
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09/06/2008 02:35
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Amanda - Yup. That's bipolar for ya. We get to feel absolute euphoria, but there's always a payoff. Most BPs experience exactly what you described, but the severity and duration of each mood depends on our individual BP type (among other things).

Here's my experience with moods:

I have BP 1, rapid cycling. My mood switches as often as every few days. Sometimes it's even a few different times in a single day.("mixed episode") It's exhausting going to these extremes so often.

I feel(for a while) that nothing can go wrong. I'm like an action hero(Superman[ic]) and nothing can stop me - My spirit is unrelenting, I am quick on my feet and my mind's sharper than ever... (That's called Hypomania) I feel witty and brilliant and popular and loved, and I am sure that I could rule the world if offered the job. I'm on-point and fabulous, and can do no wrong. I don't have to think about anything. Words just naturally come together perfectly and effortlessly; everything I say is just this side of genius. I'm everyone's best friend and and conversation comes easily. I naturally adjust to different situations. I fit in wherever I go. I am self-assured and assertive. I am outspoken, and people come out of their shell when I'm around them. I can take on 5 tasks at once, completing them faster and better than anyone could. I feel great!

Suddenly, that mood becomes something else entirely. It clicks up about 700 notches and almost takes on a life of its own. Now, the thoughts are coming TOO fast. I can't keep them straight; I almost think I can feel them buzzing. My ears pulse and my heart pounds. I'm on sensory overload. Every nerve in my body is awake. I gotta move & get things done, and I devise a plan to do it. I'll come up with a brilliant and WAYYY too complex course of action, but I am so overloaded by outside stimuli that I am thrown off course. A ringing phone could push me over the edge. Actually having to stop and answer it DEFINITELY would. People become a distraction to me. If they speak or even move, they're interfering with my thought process, and I can't stand it. I have no patience for people and no interest in making small talk. Tick tock - time is wasting. I try to tell them to go away, but I trip over my own words. Yesterday, I could stand on a soapbox and give an impromptu speech about any random thing, and it would have been seamless. But now I have trouble even stringing a sentence together; the words are coming faster than I can form them. The need to MOVE is overwhelming, and if there's nowhere to go, I pace. Back and forth. Or I just stand and rock on the balls of my feet. Back and forth. Or shake my leg. Up and down. If I sit, it's only for a minute or two until I stand up again. Up and down. Back and forth. I find myself moving in and out of every room in the house, knowing there's an objective, but confused about what it is. If anybody tells me to "calm down" or "take a seat" or "relax - you're a mile a minute", I get irritated & aggressive. Frankie asks me a question, and I lose it! How DARE HE interrupt me when IT'S CLEAR that I'm in the middle of something important? I answer his question in a way that lets him know I don't have time for him. He tries to understand, and asks what's going on. Suddenly, he seems like the dumbest person in the world. His tedious questions are unbearably annoying & are wasting my time. He's talking too slow, moving too slow. Why can't he keep up? Now I'm furious. He's interrupting my mission. I already forgot 5 times what the mission ACTUALLY IS, & he made me forget ONCE AGAIN! I feel like he's doing all this on purpose, as if he WANTS me to fail. How arrogant and selfish of him!! In a flash, I'm a predator. My prey is his spirit, & I want to crush it so he'll go away and leave me to my project. So I do. Whatever it takes - screaming, foaming at the mouth, throwing things across the room, attacking his ego. I say hurtful ugly things so he'll leave me alone. It's his fault that I'm in such a cluttered state and so far off track. I don't sleep or eat. I drop things, & that leads to throwing things... I cannot hold my tongue and pick fights with everyone. If I get the urge to go out, it's a good chance I won't be home later. And if I do come home, I'll be so drunk someone will have to carry me. I can't stop any of it. I'm edgy & tense, and on the verge of snapping at all times. I can't focus on anything and I'm mean.

And so it goes, until the depression hits. When THAT happens, I do not function at all. Period. Housework, cooking, bills all go untouched. My only movement is shuffling from bed to couch, couch to bathroom, back to bed again. I don't speak, I just cry, focus on everything negative that has ever happened in my life. I wonder why people love me and then tell myself they probably dont. I feel hopeless, useless & disinterested. I cant concentrate on anything anyone says - I feel like I'm walking through maple syrup and my feet are made of lead. I tell myself that death wouldn't be as bad as THIS

Then I wake up and its as if none of it ever happened. The clouds have cleared and all is right with the world. I can do anything! And it begins again....

WHEW!!! That was long... I wanted to let you know just how well I know what you're talking about. And you're not alone in this.

Now that I'm taking the medication, things aren't nearly that severe... (and believe me, it got worse than THAT) Things get more and more stable every day. They will for you too.

I bet you wish you hadn't asked now, huh? Hope you were in a reading mood!!!

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09/06/2008 03:19
carmen33
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Amanda, welcome, that is like Kimmie said, bipolar in a nutshell, are you taking any meds? I was the same exact way, pent up energy, feeling like I was going to explode, I always used the expression of a rubberband stretched to it's snapping point and if I could not get away from people I would snap, and I went for the soft under belly, like Kim said, attacking their ego's etc.. even worse, I have a gift for having people talk to me about anything and everything, so I know things about people that no one else does, I could use this to rip them to shreds.

The thoughts flying around drove me to shouting at them to shut the hell up and get out of my head.. could not concentrate for nothing..started thousands of projects that never got completed before moving on to the next. Depressions so deep it was all I could do to get out of the bed and go to the bathroom.. had I had a bed pan, I might not have even done that. My biggest challenge was the fact that if I didn't work, I would have nothing, so I would pull myself out of bed, drag myself to work, come home and go straight back to bed, on the weekends, I would sleep 18 hours out of 24 or more.. I operated in auto pilot more times than I care to remember.

Meds have made it a whole lot easier now to function..

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09/06/2008 05:17
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Kimmie, that was the best!!! You captured the feelings of mania and hypomania perfectly!!!

Amanda, when i have the built up energy it is a lot like Kimmie describes, everyone irritates me. My sweet husband is very understanding and a quiet person. One Christmas Eve we had the house to ourselves and i wanted him to come and sit by the fire and he decided to wipe the table instead of instantly doin what i said...so, i chunked a log on the floor and broke a tile. He just looked at me, didn't say a word, got a cigar and sat down. The look on his face scared the bejezzeie out of me. It was cold and distant. I still look at that tile which i told him not to fix. It reminds me what a pain in the rear i am when i get too wound up...ps, i had been drinking at the time. I have quit drinking and my moods are a lot more stable. I have found for me, no alcohol means no big mood swings, they stay within managable limits.

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09/06/2008 06:39
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I dont really have much to add, Amanda. These women have said it all, and very well. It's just that I feel this way too...the way that you do and we're all here to listen and to help when we can. Posting here at the mdjunction, has helped me because it's a safe place where someone almost always knows exactly where I'm coming from. Welcome
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09/06/2008 07:06
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Amanda, I am exactly the same way. I am just glad to hear (not glad that you feel this way) that you and the others can relate. For so long I felt that I was a horrible human being because of this. I also felt extremely alone and that there was something extremely, irreparably, wrong with me. I am bipolar 1 with mixed states and rapid cycling. For years I've made others suffer because of my mood states. Actually, just the other night (before I took my risperdal to calm me down) I wanted my boyfriend to engage in a "playful" punching match with me. I punch him in the arm as well (uh, playfully) when I have this manic aggression steaming inside me and he tells me I hurt him and I tell him he's a big boy and to punch me back!!! I become restless and aggravated with everything around me and I feel extremely irritated and agitated. Then I slide down into guilty depressed mode and feel guilty and weak and I want to be punished for my weakness. I can go on forever about all the moods I experience at once and the rapid, painful, fluctuations. I still owe a lot of apologies to people. I am still in the process of reaching proper stabilization on my meds. You'll get through this. Try not to feel too guilty; you are not a bad person. You just need a proper med cocktail and some good therapy and coping skills. Keep writing. I understood every word you said. I've spent years trying to escape the discomfort of being inside myself only to find out that I can;t; I can only learn how to manage the bad spells by taking care of myself and learning what needs to be done in times of crisis. xo
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For hope would be hope for the wrong thing; there is yet faith

But the faith and the love and the hope are all in the waiting.

Wait without thought, for you are not yet ready for thought:

So the darkness shall be the light, and the stillness the dancing.

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09/06/2008 07:10
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Wow kimminentdanger, that is so me. You really described it to the T!!!
-Stacy

I said to my soul, be still, and wait without hope

For hope would be hope for the wrong thing; there is yet faith

But the faith and the love and the hope are all in the waiting.

Wait without thought, for you are not yet ready for thought:

So the darkness shall be the light, and the stillness the dancing.

-T.S. Eliot
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09/06/2008 07:14
Amanda78
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Thanks, makes me feel less "crazy" (I think), LOL. I just got dxd and am in the process of getting meds. Hopefully this month. I think it might make my hubby feel a little better too.
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09/06/2008 07:22
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I'm sure everyone will say this, but the meds. should make a world of difference for you...and give them time to work. Nothing will change overnight, it can take up to 4-6weeks for the levels to be right in your bloodstream. I'm hoping it will change the way you feel though, try not to let the guilt bog you down. Have hope for the future!
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