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05/18/2008 02:26
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HI GUYS...(LOL) JUST ME..(LOL

There have been questions from newly diagnosed Bipolar's, that ask how it feels to live with the disorder. (maybe not in those exact words, but similar)

It has me wondering.....are there any of you that have been diagnosed, but have been told that the onset of your disease is fairly recent, like within 5 or 10 years? If there are any of you, do you remember how you were before that time? Do you remember being different than you are now? I was formally diagnosed about 35 years ago. I never felt different after the diagnosis. I felt as I always had. I only started feeling differently when I started meds. Ya know, I still don't really feel different. I do notice that I can keep my anger to a minimum...(lol) and cuss less, when I am really pissed. (lol) I used to handle my anger physically. Throwing things & hitting things, ashamed to admit it, but hitting people (husband).

I don't do that anymore, but I still don't feel too much different than I have my whole life. But, who knows, maybe without the meds I'd be in prison for murder or something.

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05/18/2008 04:08
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MorningGlory...

I guess because my mom was BP I always wondered if I was (before I was diagnosed)! I couldn't tell if the way I behaved (also big thrower, hitter and cusser!) was due to the possibility of being BP or if I was taking on traits of my mom!

When I was diagnosed (around 16 years ago) I felt a sense of relief in that now I would be able to "do" something about it, or at lease control the symptoms.

After starting meds I felt like a duller version of myself until I found the right combination. I would never just settle for getting the symptoms under control I had to feel like a functioning person. At the time I had three young girls to take care of and a husband who was deployed all the time.

I'm sure with out the diagnosis and medication I would now be divorced, probably alienated my kids and extended family, and living in the poor house of jail house!

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05/18/2008 04:19
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Hi Gloria, I read your post with a lot of interest since I have wondered same thoughts. I was diagnosed about 6 years ago as bipolar 2, mild,(whatever that means). I have since moved to the mid west, seen p docs here and been downgraded? to bipolar NOS. My life was a lot different before. At the same time the bipolar stuff came out, my physical health took a nosedive. Being diagnosed with discoid lupus, hypertension, asthma, and agoraphobia. Basically, I went almost overnight from highly functional to a total wreck. I think I was running on "empty" for a long time before. Always 2 jobs, running my own biz-then it just caved as did I. What was it like before? I was erratic in many ways, but always responsible. I see shreds of that now in my everyday life, but it will never be the same. I try to be that other persona that I was, and realize that it's not possible. I look at that man in photos and see what I either never was, or did a good job of faking. It's very strange-seems to be the disease du jour these days. I sometimes wonder if all the celebrities who have shared their stories may not have put a spin on to sag up their fading career's. fwiw. tc, r.

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05/18/2008 05:44
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We are really new to this. My daughter - 16 - was just diagnosed 2 months ago and I saw the personality change 8 months ago. She was always a happy bubbly confident get out of my way or else kid. Then she became irritable, moody, angry. Crying, temper tantrums like a 2 year old and then punching holes in my walls, throwing things and esculating. I did not want to see to what so I took her to counseling and a psych. right away. First they diagnosed her with depression and then the bipolar. I thought of bipolar from the begining because of the on/off mood swings. Now on medication the anger is under control mostly - at times I see a glimps of my old daughter - the bubbly happy young lady, but it is very rare. They are saying she is still depressed. She is having a hard time getting over her first love and he wont go away - doesnt want her back - just likes to tourture her (she wants him so its hard to do anything about him). I notice the anger comes around a week before that time of month so at least I am ready for it and we can increas the meds a bit. But I too want my daughter back - will it ever happen??????????

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05/18/2008 06:06
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I was diagnosed with mental illness 12 years ago. There was really no symptom or sign before that. My Dr. and I have been trying to pinpoint when the first symptoms might have emereged, and the nearest we have come is two weeks before I had a breakdown. I became hyperreligios during that time.

I was misdiagnosed, and on the wrong course of treatment for a long time so it has just been within that past year that I have noticed any improvement. I have been mostly stable for the past year, with a few blips along the way.

Now, I feel almost like my mormal self again. Though, I am not as outgoing as I was before I got sick. The mood swings are mostly under control, but I still have days when I feel slightly depressed.

Linnied, the chances of remission are very good with the proper treatment and your daughter staying on medications, and living a healthy life. This illness never goes away, but it can be controlled. I wish you both the very best.

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05/18/2008 06:14
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Hi guys....I was diagnosed at 24 and so never remember not being bipolar...my stressor then was an ectopic pregnancy that made me spin out of control. I was hospitalized for 2 months.

My son was diagnosed at 14 and we have had ups and downs...he tries very hard to stay well. They gave him great coping skills at the hospital where he was originally diagnosed.

Rojomi...glad to see your post...I believe that bipolar is prevalent in our society and what we are seeing is the tip of the iceberg...as for the celebrities...they may be doing it to boost careers?? What a way to do that though, isn't it.

I am a cusser and a hitter when I drink...as long as I don't drink I am pretty level headed most of the time. Although, I am still cranky at times...

"In the time of your life, live-so that in that wondrous time you shall not add to the misery and sorrow of the world, but, shall smile to the infinite variety and mystery of it." William Saroyan



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05/18/2008 06:38
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...why/how do I always get off topic? Is there a difference? For me, like night and day. I have educated myself about the illness and how it's treated here in the U.S. and in other countries. I think I have always been bipolar, but before the stigma of being diagnosed,(and telling EVERYONE-big mistake),I enjoyed the company of biz associates, friends and family. After "The Fall", and seemingly in slow-motion, those relationships changed or ended. I'm left with a few friends I stay in contact with. Drama-I see myself as a damaged old seashell-pick me up, hold me to your ear and you may or may not hear the sounds of the sea. ...or screams. Will "I" ever return? I did before. For whatever reason I went through a fairly long period where I think I had no sign of this strange state of mind. If that should occur again, I would now be left with the memories of what it's been like. And the knowledge that there is no easy way to describe to another how it feels. Other than to realize that I (we) maybe just feel things too much, or perhaps on several different levels and as such we differ from unipolar so-called "normal" people. I always knew that my tools 4 rationalization were left out when I hopped off of the assembly belt. People would say to me for years in a joking but pointed way; "You ain't right" or my personal favorite,"They must have dropped you a lot when you were a baby." Both are true, but I wouldn't do much differently if it could be done over.Details,yes-but the gist is I am what I am. It's taken over 1/2 a century to accept and I'm still working on it. Plus, they keep changing the guidelines hey norma

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05/18/2008 06:41
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what a great question. i can really relate to what rojomi was saying, which is not surprising as we have discussed this. i always knew there was something "wrong" with me. i always felt like everyone else felt like i did inside (bad, sad, angry, hurt, confused) but that they were better people than i was and had something i was missing that allowed them to handle those feelings and still be "happy". i can hardly ever remember feeling relaxed or happy, starting in adolescence. i wasn't diagnosed with any mental illness until after the birth of my first child 10 years ago. then, i was diagnosed with depression. it wasn't like things were so different, but it was like i could no longer hide what i was feeling. i was so raw and it was all right out there, so that meant i was depressed. when i had my second child 3 years later, like rojomi, it was like it all just caved in on me. the world i had built by doing what i was expected to do and going to law school and being a lawyer and getting married and being perfect mommy, etc., just crumbled. it was during this time that i had my first manic episode and first psychotic experience. then i was diagnosed as bipolar. i refused to believe this diagnosis for a long time. only in the past year since being properly medicated do i feel "different". i had my ups and downs before, but i was always basically a wreck, at least inside. now, i feel like i understand that i don't have to feel that way anymore. i feel like it might be ok for me to just be who i am, as long as i have my meds. i still have my quirks, but i feel able to accept those and they don't bother me so much or make me feel like a bad person anymore.

for me, it's all about the medication and it always will be. that's ok with me. i'm just grateful that i have finally accepted that and can understand it now.

peace to us because we deserve it...what a vast array of answers. just goes to show you can't lump us all in together like people love to do. we're individuals and experience our illness very differently at times, whether we have the same diagnoses or not. hmmmmmmm. try to remember that all you"normal" people out there...lol. i'm sure that will make a lot of difference.

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Thou canst not disturb a flower without the troubling of a star...from "Troubling a Star", by Madelaine L'Engle...we all affect one another by our words and actions...it is our choice whether to do so purposefully and positively, or carelessly and hurtfully...may we all bring to one another the peace that we seek...

"if you want others to be happy, practice compassion. if you want to be happy, practice compassion" the Dahli Laama
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05/18/2008 10:20
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I can't say really that I feel any different than I have prior to diagnosis, but now my life is a whole lot more stable.. I don't have the radical moods swings, things started to fall apart early in life.. and the older I got the worst they got, I had what I refer to as my coping methods, isolation..mainly, both when I got depressed, and when I knew I was going into one of my rage periods, it was better for all that I removed myself from the world..

Now with the medications, while I still have my moods, they are less intense, last shorter periods.. etc..

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05/18/2008 10:44
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Roj....
"In the time of your life, live-so that in that wondrous time you shall not add to the misery and sorrow of the world, but, shall smile to the infinite variety and mystery of it." William Saroyan



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